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Making the Ugali Machine
majimaji
#11 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:08:36 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Our focus is not to find jobs for our people... It should be to fix problems and jobs will be a by-product.if people had jobs as their sole goal we would just undo all mechanization. Give people shovels tovbuild roads heck why give them shovels give them spoons to build roads - you will have lifetime employees. What we need to do is focus on our problems... Our REAL problems and not collect a bunch of technology plug them together and ask...what can this be used for? All the nonsense with foods and automation is nonsense.


Beg to differ on this @masukuma philosophy. sometimes we have to rig up things and then ask;what can this be used for, eg. when LASER was discovered/invented, it had no practical use but today is what we use to transmit data at the speed of light. On the other hand you can have old technology eg the wheel, but it is only recently that we fitted wheels to suitcases, relieving the tired hands of thousands of travellers in airports and bus stations. The problems in africa that require what may looks like simple solutions are many but no one is doing anything about it eg. women are fetching water in jerricans from rivers and wells long distances from their homes, whoever comes up with a women-friendly water jerrican easy to carry, load and clean should get a Nobel prize
PeterReborn
#12 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:08:52 PM
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kollabo wrote:
Forget Ugali machine, how about Sukuma Wiki Shredder!

Hio tayari iko.I saw some hawkers selling it in town.I am hoping you were not asking Masukuma?smile
Consistency is better than intensity
Msa Liti
#13 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:23:17 PM
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kollabo wrote:
Forget Ugali machine, how about Sukuma Wiki Shredder!



This one is available.

It is called a chaff cutter!
masukuma
#14 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:26:29 PM
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majimaji wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Our focus is not to find jobs for our people... It should be to fix problems and jobs will be a by-product.if people had jobs as their sole goal we would just undo all mechanization. Give people shovels tovbuild roads heck why give them shovels give them spoons to build roads - you will have lifetime employees. What we need to do is focus on our problems... Our REAL problems and not collect a bunch of technology plug them together and ask...what can this be used for? All the nonsense with foods and automation is nonsense.


Beg to differ on this @masukuma philosophy. sometimes we have to rig up things and then ask;what can this be used for, eg. when LASER was discovered/invented, it had no practical use but today is what we use to transmit data at the speed of light. On the other hand you can have old technology eg the wheel, but it is only recently that we fitted wheels to suitcases, relieving the tired hands of thousands of travellers in airports and bus stations. The problems in africa that require what may looks like simple solutions are many but no one is doing anything about it eg. women are fetching water in jerricans from rivers and wells long distances from their homes, whoever comes up with a women-friendly water jerrican easy to carry, load and clean should get a Nobel prize

It all looks rosy until you discover the amounts of cash you need to make it work. Huge firms with lots of cash can involve themselves in this kind of expeditions. The digital camera was discovered inside a A faith that cannot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets.huge company and took years sorry decades before
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
PeterReborn
#15 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:39:09 PM
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masukuma wrote:
majimaji wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Our focus is not to find jobs for our people... It should be to fix problems and jobs will be a by-product.if people had jobs as their sole goal we would just undo all mechanization. Give people shovels tovbuild roads heck why give them shovels give them spoons to build roads - you will have lifetime employees. What we need to do is focus on our problems... Our REAL problems and not collect a bunch of technology plug them together and ask...what can this be used for? All the nonsense with foods and automation is nonsense.


Beg to differ on this @masukuma philosophy. sometimes we have to rig up things and then ask;what can this be used for, eg. when LASER was discovered/invented, it had no practical use but today is what we use to transmit data at the speed of light. On the other hand you can have old technology eg the wheel, but it is only recently that we fitted wheels to suitcases, relieving the tired hands of thousands of travellers in airports and bus stations. The problems in africa that require what may looks like simple solutions are many but no one is doing anything about it eg. women are fetching water in jerricans from rivers and wells long distances from their homes, whoever comes up with a women-friendly water jerrican easy to carry, load and clean should get a Nobel prize

It all looks rosy until you discover the amounts of cash you need to make it work. Huge firms with lots of cash can involve themselves in this kind of expeditions. The digital camera was discovered inside a A faith that cannot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets.huge company and took years sorry decades before

But Kenya though a 3rd World country have resources to invest in Research and development.Our universities get billions every year to invest in research but all we see is theories and stories.Our Military with the billions we are giving them should borrow a leaf from the US and Israel Military and invest in research and development.
Consistency is better than intensity
sitaki.kujulikana
#16 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:40:12 PM
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majimaji wrote:

I have a design concept. Take a concrete mixer and scale it down to the size of a sufuria, connect a heating element...

smile no wonder the koroga guys refer to that as jikoni.
sitaki.kujulikana
#17 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:49:12 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
There was a time when Binyavanga Wainaina was speaking when he 'came out'. He was speaking about the same thing - about why we always have to be 'traditional'

Ati why we cannot 'add value' to potatoes and make crisps. As if eating potatoes as crisps is better than eating potatoes as mukimo.

These are the idlers in our midst.

Why want to fix what is not broken? Because Mzungu are doing it?

We are not referring to adding value but increasing efficiency.

For example the typical household chores take up a whole day and these are duties that would easily be compressed into a couple of hours.

The reason the ugali example comes up is due to the fact that the same is not a common meal in the west as it is especially in Kenya and thus the lack of ways to make preparing the same more efficient come into question.

Of course there are more examples like why would people especially in rural areas suffer when rivers dry up, while building dams is a technology even beavers have mastered.
sitaki.kujulikana
#18 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2015 1:09:17 PM
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some of the thing we wait for the muzungu (either macho round or macho kidogo) to come and do us are just embarrassing.

When you look at some of the technologies, one is baffled at our level of thinking. Roads were build by the romans huko siku za Jesus, water pumps were first used by the ancestors of akina sadam way before Christopher Columbus (the damn, blasted liar) ancestors even knew how to read and write.

How long has the rail technology been around and we have to bring in foreigners, our kid learn under the sun in the scorching sun and yet building technology has been around for ages.
sitaki.kujulikana
#19 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2015 1:14:00 PM
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PeterReborn wrote:
masukuma wrote:
majimaji wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Our focus is not to find jobs for our people... It should be to fix problems and jobs will be a by-product.if people had jobs as their sole goal we would just undo all mechanization. Give people shovels tovbuild roads heck why give them shovels give them spoons to build roads - you will have lifetime employees. What we need to do is focus on our problems... Our REAL problems and not collect a bunch of technology plug them together and ask...what can this be used for? All the nonsense with foods and automation is nonsense.


Beg to differ on this @masukuma philosophy. sometimes we have to rig up things and then ask;what can this be used for, eg. when LASER was discovered/invented, it had no practical use but today is what we use to transmit data at the speed of light. On the other hand you can have old technology eg the wheel, but it is only recently that we fitted wheels to suitcases, relieving the tired hands of thousands of travellers in airports and bus stations. The problems in africa that require what may looks like simple solutions are many but no one is doing anything about it eg. women are fetching water in jerricans from rivers and wells long distances from their homes, whoever comes up with a women-friendly water jerrican easy to carry, load and clean should get a Nobel prize

It all looks rosy until you discover the amounts of cash you need to make it work. Huge firms with lots of cash can involve themselves in this kind of expeditions. The digital camera was discovered inside a A faith that cannot survive collision with the truth is not worth many regrets.huge company and took years sorry decades before

But Kenya though a 3rd World country have resources to invest in Research and development.Our universities get billions every year to invest in research but all we see is theories and stories.Our Military with the billions we are giving them should borrow a leaf from the US and Israel Military and invest in research and development.

even leaving out the complex solutions, what we need for now are just basic solutions, as someone says hata kupanda nyasi ni shida and we have to wait for fifa to come do it for us.

I don't think building roads, or supplying water, or even power are complex problems.
washiku
#20 Posted : Wednesday, September 23, 2015 1:32:29 PM
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Joined: 5/9/2007
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masukuma wrote:
Our focus is not to find jobs for our people... It should be to fix problems and jobs will be a by-product.if people had jobs as their sole goal we would just undo all mechanization. Give people shovels tovbuild roads heck why give them shovels give them spoons to build roads - you will have lifetime employees. What we need to do is focus on our problems... Our REAL problems and not collect a bunch of technology plug them together and ask...what can this be used for? All the nonsense with foods and automation is nonsense.


I agree with you on this part. Reminds me of the arguments that were there in many organizations back then against them taking up computers since they would lender so many people jobless.
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