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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/27/2010 Posts: 951 Location: Nyumbani
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After reading Uhuru's statement , i noticed how he talked about SRC and their role.He said theirs was to harmonize the public servants wage bill. But he has forgotten that the same SRC set how much Mps and MRCs should earn and this was not followed ,they ended up setting their own salaries through blackmail and other threats.So the strike to teachers is blackmail and threats to Mps and MRCs .Dont these politicians earn even more than the developed countries ploticians earn? Let's propose Kenyan Mps to earn what their counterparts in Morocco earn and teachers will go back to class.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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winston wrote:Just thinking that this is how its going to play out:
Step one - Gova continues its hard line stance - cant pay wont pay. Teachers continue with their stand 'cant increase wont teach'. Status quo remains till exams (administered by NYS, army, prison warders, police, etc) are over in early/mid november.
Step two - Gova moves to sack all the teachers except headmasters. With no salaries for september, october (and no loan deductions remittances from August till october) the heat of liabilities is now on the teachers - rent, loans etc have to be paid. The average teacher becomes desperate.
Step three - Gova advertises to employ teachers (both old and new) and employs them on a new contract (not subject to the court order of 50-60%) and includes a clause that no deductions or remittances will be made to the unions. Each teacher to send contributions directly (or better still outlaws unions or categorizes teachers in same bracket as police officers - essential services not allowed to form unions).
Step four - teachers take government to court for arrears of 50-60% since 2013 to time of sacking. Government obeys the new order and pays.
Step five. Schools are re-opened in December with old/new teachers.
Net effect - (1) Uhuru vs Sossion (or as some may want to mis-brand it uhuru vs raila) battle is won by uhuru; (2) New contract of employment not subject to 50-60% increment...gova can pay - economy is not hurt and salary structure is not distorted (3) Knut/Kuppet - weaken due to collection of contribution woes/ die off/Outlawed.
Anyway just my thoughts.
@winston - Very nice thinking. Only that if there no salaries in September the average teacher will become desperate. The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/15/2015 Posts: 817
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no salo for a whole month? sossion will get his from knut. DONOT forget that
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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ZZE123 wrote:winston wrote:Just thinking that this is how its going to play out:
Step one - Gova continues its hard line stance - cant pay wont pay. Teachers continue with their stand 'cant increase wont teach'. Status quo remains till exams (administered by NYS, army, prison warders, police, etc) are over in early/mid november.
Step two - Gova moves to sack all the teachers except headmasters. With no salaries for september, october (and no loan deductions remittances from August till october) the heat of liabilities is now on the teachers - rent, loans etc have to be paid. The average teacher becomes desperate.
Step three - Gova advertises to employ teachers (both old and new) and employs them on a new contract (not subject to the court order of 50-60%) and includes a clause that no deductions or remittances will be made to the unions. Each teacher to send contributions directly (or better still outlaws unions or categorizes teachers in same bracket as police officers - essential services not allowed to form unions).
Step four - teachers take government to court for arrears of 50-60% since 2013 to time of sacking. Government obeys the new order and pays.
Step five. Schools are re-opened in December with old/new teachers.
Net effect - (1) Uhuru vs Sossion (or as some may want to mis-brand it uhuru vs raila) battle is won by uhuru; (2) New contract of employment not subject to 50-60% increment...gova can pay - economy is not hurt and salary structure is not distorted (3) Knut/Kuppet - weaken due to collection of contribution woes/ die off/Outlawed.
Anyway just my thoughts.
@winston - Very nice thinking. Only that if there no salaries in September the average teacher will become desperate. The average teacher huko mashinani lives in his own house on his farm and tends to his tea and dairy cows, shop, hardware etc. He may not be that desperate. In many rural areas, teachers form the local 'upper class'.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/15/2009 Posts: 362
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winston wrote:Just thinking that this is how its going to play out:
Step one - Gova continues its hard line stance - cant pay wont pay. Teachers continue with their stand 'cant increase wont teach'. Status quo remains till exams (administered by NYS, army, prison warders, police, etc) are over in early/mid november.
Step two - Gova moves to sack all the teachers except headmasters. With no salaries for september, october (and no loan deductions remittances from August till october) the heat of liabilities is now on the teachers - rent, loans etc have to be paid. The average teacher becomes desperate.
Step three - Gova advertises to employ teachers (both old and new) and employs them on a new contract (not subject to the court order of 50-60%) and includes a clause that no deductions or remittances will be made to the unions. Each teacher to send contributions directly (or better still outlaws unions or categorizes teachers in same bracket as police officers - essential services not allowed to form unions).
Step four - teachers take government to court for arrears of 50-60% since 2013 to time of sacking. Government obeys the new order and pays.
Step five. Schools are re-opened in December with old/new teachers.
Net effect - (1) Uhuru vs Sossion (or as some may want to mis-brand it uhuru vs raila) battle is won by uhuru; (2) New contract of employment not subject to 50-60% increment...gova can pay - economy is not hurt and salary structure is not distorted (3) Knut/Kuppet - weaken due to collection of contribution woes/ die off/Outlawed.
Anyway just my thoughts.
will only happen if an opinion poll indicates that public support has shifted from teachers side to uhurus side, remember uhuru is still a politician and needs votes in 2018
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Some SACCOs in Laikipia have already suspended loans to teachers due to failure of remittances. Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Njung'e wrote:Some SACCOs in Laikipia have already suspended loans to teachers due to failure of remittances.  For which month? .....It's 21st Sept, 2015!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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McReggae wrote:Njung'e wrote:Some SACCOs in Laikipia have already suspended loans to teachers due to failure of remittances. For which month? .....It's 21st Sept, 2015!!! August .See it in yesterday's Star. ION, Ababu files a motion to cut salaries of Mpigs,PORK,DPORK,senators,governors,judges and commissioners by 50% to pay teachers......errrr. Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2014 Posts: 1,652
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 Hutia Mundu!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Njung'e wrote:McReggae wrote:Njung'e wrote:Some SACCOs in Laikipia have already suspended loans to teachers due to failure of remittances. For which month? .....It's 21st Sept, 2015!!! August .See it in yesterday's Star. ION, Ababu files a motion to cut salaries of Mpigs,PORK,DPORK,senators,governors,judges and commissioners by 50% to pay teachers......errrr. Yes let that happen and if your caught stealing you get shot... possunt quia posse videntur
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