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USD/KES $ at 95
sl8r
#181 Posted : Tuesday, September 08, 2015 1:36:23 PM
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hisah wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
CBK has the dollar at mean of 103.7712. So we are still seeing a slide. Looks like a rate hike will be on the cards next month.

No CB is larger than the market. The governor has realized this as per his last statement. If they hike rates with the current global turmoil, NSE will crash land and that would still not save KES.

For now it's 'sit on your hands' time as the saying goes in the trading pit. Let the carnage be.


Carnage indeed
first there is this,

Bank CEOs to meet governor as shilling hits 106 to dollar

And then there is this

Panic as traders quote prices in US dollars

Things are getting very very thick
KulaRaha
#182 Posted : Tuesday, September 08, 2015 1:45:33 PM
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Reduce GoK spending, at least make some public effort to show you're doing something. That would support the shilling.
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josimar
#183 Posted : Tuesday, September 08, 2015 2:27:50 PM
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The negative growth in the hotel and tourism sector is hitting us hard , the government needs to go an extra mile and create a secure atmosphere for the tourists . Secondly , the coffee and tea prices are quite low in the global market at this moment and this indeed has a negative effect on the dollar inflows into Our country. Lastly , am just wondering whether Our sovereign debt is also a contributing factor since the govt has to offset payments on a monthly or quarterly basis?
Siringi
#184 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 9:05:56 AM
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So just like Zimbabwe Kenyan traders have swiftly changed into billing / quoting prices in USD


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geofreygachie
#185 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 9:12:24 AM
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Siringi wrote:
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So just like Zimbabwe Kenyan traders have swiftly changed into billing / quoting prices in USD



A sign indicating that things are getting messy day by day.
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Sir invest
#186 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 11:42:31 AM
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if you are a speculator holding USD! be warned the trend might head North soon..... http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDKES:CUR

mnandii
#187 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 2:10:10 PM
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sl8r wrote:
hisah wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
CBK has the dollar at mean of 103.7712. So we are still seeing a slide. Looks like a rate hike will be on the cards next month.

No CB is larger than the market. The governor has realized this as per his last statement. If they hike rates with the current global turmoil, NSE will crash land and that would still not save KES.

For now it's 'sit on your hands' time as the saying goes in the trading pit. Let the carnage be.


Carnage indeed
first there is this,

Bank CEOs to meet governor as shilling hits 106 to dollar

And then there is this

Panic as traders quote prices in US dollars

Things are getting very very thick


As per my last Elliot Wave analysis, I expect the KES to start strengthening against the USD. The line in the sand is 106.80. As long as that is not broken then you should stop your worries. Will update post soon.
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mnandii
#188 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 2:26:23 PM
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mnandii wrote:
sl8r wrote:
hisah wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
CBK has the dollar at mean of 103.7712. So we are still seeing a slide. Looks like a rate hike will be on the cards next month.

No CB is larger than the market. The governor has realized this as per his last statement. If they hike rates with the current global turmoil, NSE will crash land and that would still not save KES.

For now it's 'sit on your hands' time as the saying goes in the trading pit. Let the carnage be.


Carnage indeed
first there is this,

Bank CEOs to meet governor as shilling hits 106 to dollar

And then there is this

Panic as traders quote prices in US dollars

Things are getting very very thick


As per my last Elliot Wave analysis, I expect the KES to start strengthening against the USD. The line in the sand is 106.80. As long as that is not broken then you should stop your worries. Will update post soon.


In the meantime, my next target for USDKES is the 100 level soon.
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
alutacontinua
#189 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 8:42:12 PM
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Rumours doing the rounds are that commercial banks unanimously agreed to only buy bonds at 18% and CBK agreed....can anyone confirm this?
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#190 Posted : Wednesday, September 09, 2015 10:45:28 PM
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http://www.businessdaily.../-/ji2d3dz/-/index.html

Liquidity tightening on the cards to tame growth in private sector credit to be within CBK targets
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mnandii
#191 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2015 6:50:36 AM
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Central Bank must stop use of dollars in the economy for local transactions


link

A person who calls himself an investment analyst can suggest such crap? Shame on you
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Cde Monomotapa
#192 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2015 7:23:15 AM
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mnandii wrote:
Quote:
Central Bank must stop use of dollars in the economy for local transactions


link

A person who calls himself an investment analyst can suggest such crap? Shame on you


What I describe as the snowballing of storm in a tea cup reporting.

The reporter wrote of 2 companies who in my understanding received those instructions from their offshore HQs. Then went ahead with a horror headline.

Secondly, banks have taken up USD senior debt to facilitate their clients involved in Exim business which is good for FX risk management. However, woe unto those who in turn do sell in KES.

Lastly, this USD gyrations could be over by next week. Let's see with the Fed.
streetwise
#193 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2015 8:23:27 AM
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What does the guy consider a local transaction. Even matatu fare is not a local transaction. Why I say so, because they depend of fuel cost , which depends on the dollar.
Cde Monomotapa
#194 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2015 8:29:19 AM
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streetwise wrote:
What does the guy consider a local transaction. Even matatu fare is not a local transaction. Why I say so, because they depend of fuel cost , which depends on the dollar.


Solution? Import substitution. Lakini, Wakenya wanapenda vitu za ku? Za Kucome...
Pesa Nane
#195 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2015 12:53:48 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
streetwise wrote:
What does the guy consider a local transaction. Even matatu fare is not a local transaction. Why I say so, because they depend of fuel cost , which depends on the dollar.


Solution? Import substitution. Lakini, Wakenya wanapenda vitu za ku? Za Kucome...

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iris
#196 Posted : Tuesday, September 15, 2015 10:22:13 AM
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For the FOREX gurus on Wazua, where can one get the best rates when selling US dollars for KES?
Impunity
#197 Posted : Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:21:18 PM
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iris wrote:
For the FOREX gurus on Wazua, where can one get the best rates when selling US dollars for KES?


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iris
#198 Posted : Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:46:51 PM
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Where in Eastleigh? Is it legal?
muganda
#199 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2015 10:30:38 AM
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The problem with economists and traders, they can be far moodier than the markets. Usd/Kes around 103.15. Oh ye resident analysts, is it going up or down by Dec?
Quote:
An interesting Trade would be to buy 1 Year T-Bills which will print a
20% handle this week and look to finance the Position versus Dollars.
This is of course called the ''Carry'' Trade. The Foreign Exchange
Rate is key and was last trading at 103.43 and the Trade looks
compelling in my opinion. The Central Bank has established his
credentials in very short order and that establishment of his
inflation-busting credentials [by the way there isn't any] will I
believe also allow him to take his Foot off the interest rate
Accelerator in due course.


KulaRaha
#200 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2015 11:03:58 AM
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Usd at 100 at year end, unless CBK borrows externally, then 105 to 110.
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