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Serve and Suffer!!!
masukuma
#11 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 6:52:10 AM
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3 things.
1) I empathize with the police officers meant to work in those conditions. But that's what they sighed up for!!!
2) that is why the call us raiya! Coz we don't have what it takes to survive that kind of setting... I.e. we have not been trained to survive those areas, topography or settings.
3) this should serve as a reminder that kenya is still a poor, corrupt 3rd world country. So as you see people taking breakfast at art caffe,driving into the Sankara for lunch or eating dinner at Villa Rosa don't be decieved
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Museveni
#12 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 8:31:25 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Those cops badly exposed the security post. They should be interdicted first thing tomorrow.

The Al Shabaab probably know much more than what was said in the program. Those police officers have been attacked several times in patterns that show the attackers know more about the post than was broadcast. Things like vehicles that don't work are not a surprise to anyone in those areas - all of the people definitely know.

And to their credit, they didn't allow recording of the security procedures they put in place to protect the police post and the public.

Exposed to ? The public? Because the bad guys already made a statement by getting rid of the sign posts indicating any police presence.

Isn't it clear that more needs to be done here?

And if as someone pointed out that this is on the frontline and that is how the conditions are, we have huge huge problems.

To hear the police spokesperson say the area has been calm just adds to the amplify how seriously such matters are treated ath the HQ.

Our security lapses are homegrown. There was nothing to compromise security just highlighting the big flaws that need to be addressed.

Nothing to complain on the living conditions but the preparedness of the post on neutralizing any security threat is way below expectations.

In an area being considered an infiltration point then there needs to more seriousness if we intend to tackle terror.
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freiks
#13 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 8:49:29 AM
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PATRIOTISM...... The word we all congratulated Obama for the day has been thrown out of the window by our media. Does it benefit by exposing your security weaknesses to the world. I dare ask except maybe SA and the Arab African countries which other country in Africa has a better working conditions for its cops. Kenya is up there in better conditions for its employees compared to many other countries in the world
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MaichBlack
#14 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 8:57:05 AM
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We are so behind, corrupt, removed from reality, a bunch of jokers etc.

1) Policemen should not be fetching water and firewood. The government should get a water tanker to supply the police posts with water and build storage tanks for them. One tanker can serve up to twelve police stations/posts in the region - two per day. Every stations/post gets a delivery once a week. The time the spend fetching water and firewood can be used policing.

2) Communication equipment. That should be a must!!! Should be among the best in the country. Should be working and have an up time of 99% plus.

3) Police helicopter. There MUST be at least one stationed permanently in the region - even if it is serving police posts/stations in a 100 km radius. The helicopter should be equipped well enough to provide air support, surveillance, search and rescue missions etc. In case of an attack, radio communication, air support pap!!!

4) Basic living conditions should be improved. A mabati dining area/entertainment area that is sprayed with bullets as you are eating is a no no. A basic stone structure would mitigate such attacks. I saw some of them wearing those sandak sandals called floaters and another wearing akala with their jungle uniform. I don't think they had left their boots in the house!

And these things are not "a movie" as some clown was saying. These are basic requirements that we can afford. I know how much taxes me and my fellow Kenyans pay both directly and indirectly. I know how much of that is wasted (over) paying idiots, corruption - including purchase of 5k wheelbarrows at 109k, paying 2m to open a Facebook page and all the billions looted at both the National and County level
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MaichBlack
#15 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 9:00:05 AM
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freiks wrote:
PATRIOTISM...... The word we all congratulated Obama for the day has been thrown out of the window by our media. Does it benefit by exposing your security weaknesses to the world. I dare ask except maybe SA and the Arab African countries which other country in Africa has a better working conditions for its cops. Kenya is up there in better conditions for its employees compared to many other countries in the world

Are you the police spokesman??? You sure sound like him. Or his secretary!!!

See my post above!!!
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Taurrus
#16 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 9:03:08 AM
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freiks wrote:
PATRIOTISM...... The word we all congratulated Obama for the day has been thrown out of the window by our media. Does it benefit by exposing your security weaknesses to the world. I dare ask except maybe SA and the Arab African countries which other country in Africa has a better working conditions for its cops. Kenya is up there in better conditions for its employees compared to many other countries in the world

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Taurrus
#17 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 9:05:26 AM
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Why is it that when the Kenya police want to punish their own they transfer to these areas!
Anti_Burglar
#18 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 9:05:29 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
We are so behind, corrupt, removed from reality, a bunch of jokers etc.

1) Policemen should not be fetching water and firewood. The government should get a water tanker to supply the police posts with water and build storage tanks for them. One tanker can serve up to twelve police stations/posts in the region - two per day. Every stations/post gets a delivery once a week. The time the spend fetching water and firewood can be used policing.

2) Communication equipment. That should be a must!!! Should be among the best in the country. Should be working and have an up time of 99% plus.

3) Police helicopter. There MUST be at least one stationed permanently in the region - even if it is serving police posts/stations in a 100 km radius. The helicopter should be equipped well enough to provide air support, surveillance, search and rescue missions etc. In case of an attack, radio communication, air support pap!!!

4) Basic living conditions should be improved. A mabati dining area/entertainment area that is sprayed with bullets as you are eating is a no no. A basic stone structure would mitigate such attacks. I saw some of them wearing those sandak sandals called floaters and another wearing akala with their jungle uniform. I don't think they had left their boots in the house!

And these things are not "a movie" as some clown was saying. These are basic requirements that we can afford. I know how much taxes me and my fellow Kenyans pay both directly and indirectly. I know how much of that is wasted (over) paying idiots, corruption - including purchase of 5k wheelbarrows at 109k, paying 2m to open a Facebook page and all the billions looted at both the National and County level


Masukuma thinks these should not be because these individuals are 'trained'. Their 'training' was to fetch water & firewood.

He/she also says that is what they 'signed up for'. They signed up to fetch water and firewood.

What an idiot!
Taurrus
#19 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 9:06:47 AM
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Hao watajua Kenya Police iko na wenyewe, sio ya mama yao!
Muheani
#20 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2015 9:11:35 AM
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Whereas I agree the conditions are pathetic, that cannot be the situation in Boni only. Our police are beknown for being sooo under equipped. Cattle rustling in the north has generally gone on because the police are ill equipped, ill armed and mayb in worse conditions than even.Boni

We need to.look at the force in entirety

......PS... Larry needs to learn a thing or two on interviewing from @husseinmohammed (my take). Ama abaki tu kwa the trend where he is goood.

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