True... thats the reason we cannot accept facts when they look us in the face and spit at us! Coz of LOVE.... mpenda chongo huona Kengeza...

I guess based on maskuma's logic , if Kenya has never reached the world cup in any sport, we should abandon it.

This means Kenya should give up on football, fifteens rugby, mens volleyball, basketball heck even boxing, tennis, etc. Is it just me or is this
plain ridiculous.

When you read such posts you realize why Kenya appears hopeless at sports. It is because there are too many masukuma type thinkers in charge of sports. Maybe even the sports minister.

If masukuma was in charge of sports 5 years ago, Kenya would have abandoned field events and sprints, because " we are supposedly hopeless".

This means Yego and Bett who recently won gold medals would have been told by masukuma to give up 5 years ago.

I am just glad you are not involved in running sports. This has to be one of the most ridiculous posts I have seen on wazua.

It is ridiculous because it has no chance in hell of happening. We do have some incompetent people running sports but none of them are crazy enough to stop funding any sport where Kenya has never reached the world cup.

Masukuma also suggests that media should stop covering football which is even more ridiculous. I am glad none of his suggestions have a snowball's chance in hell.

By the way if you want to give up on sports then please go ahead and give up. Leave this thread and spare us the misguided notions. Everyone else who is posting is still interested in local football. Stop trying to poison the well on your way out.


Sports does not develop a nation but it does provide employment opportunities and various intangible benefits. Sports are already providing employment and other benefits in Kenya so the notion that this can only happen in a developed country is bogus. Some players in Kenya are already making around Ksh 200,000 per month. Some coaches are making Ksh 600,000 per month, not to mention assistant coaches, physios, managers and so forth. In the next 5 years, these salaries could double. It was only as recently as 2008 when the top Kenya player was making around Ksh 20,000 per month.

And finally when you complain about resources being used on football, you are clueless. The government does not spend much on football nowadays. Harambee stars is typically sponsored by EABL which caters to hosting and travel expenses. FIFA also provides funding, some of which is used to fund the national team expenses. Clubs like Gor Mahia and AFC are basically on their own when they travel abroad. They often have to fund their trips by Harambees. There is little or no government help.

In fact I would venture to say football puts money in the governments hands. Remember the government taxes footballers. Government also takes a hefty cut of gate collections. And whenever a team rents a stadium for training, they pay around ksh 10,000 per day. And when a player is sold, government also takes a cut. Based on this fact alone, it would be myopic of the government to stop funding football.

perhaps if they raised their own money they would be more prudent to make it work.... just because government taxes footballers does not mean we should waste much more money! I know some fundi's wa roof who charge 200k for a 2 weeks job... should they hold us hostage? pliz!!
But anyway... this whole thread is pointless Of course it will not fly.... kinda like yours - both of us are idealists on extreme sides.... and they won't fly... it's pointless!

some interesting points if at all you care to read

Ati michezo ilianza na industrial revolution? The ancient west African kingdoms of Ghana and Songhai used to hold wrestling festivals in 1650s!

This was in one of the dailies in Feb this year



Btw a National Sports Fund board with members drawn from various sports entities was unveiled last year but i'm not sure if they've managed to raise any funds.

Reaching the world cup should never be the criteria for whether a government provides funding.

Sometimes a government simply provides facilities as a way to provide social services. This is what the colonial government did when they built football grounds like Woodley and Jericho grounds.

Reaching the world cup should never be the criteria that determines whether a government should provide social services. You can prioritze based on other more useful criteria.

Any government that chooses to punish footballers and football fans for something that is not their fault is asking for trouble. Folks football is popular. There is a reason why politicians as far back as Jomo Kenyatta made it a point to attend football matches.

What excuses are you talking about?
I see you have a habit of just posting one liners or sarcasm that do not in any way address the issues raised.

Harambee Stars players to be axed in wake of ‘sex orgy’ reports

No points for correct guess.