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digitek1
#21 Posted : Saturday, September 05, 2015 11:22:23 AM
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kiash wrote:
These guys must be crying (kulilia kwa choo) on why they had to kill Gadaffi. Things started going bananas when they killed Gadaffi.He used to be the kichungi for Africans wanting to go to Europe and he used to be given so much money especially by Italy (Berlusconi) and when he died, the routes were opened. It is said he used to haul the Africans into prisons and then send them back to their countries.When he died, the immigrants started flooding Italian islands and with them were also the former rich libyans who could no longer live the luxurious lifestyle enjoyed during Gadaffis era.First came Africans and then the Arabs due to the Arab spring which brought some Tunisians and Egyptians and for some time now there have been Syrians.Any one who have watched news know from january,more than 400000 refugees have entered Europe.
When other European (Geographic non UE) citizens like from Macedonia saw refugees are coming and getting a save haven they have also decided to cross the border.As you say, this is going to lead to extrimism and racism will go high.

Do not forget, countries like Germany are welcoming most of them with open hands coz their population is getting old btu they can't welcome everyone.There also issues coz they are welcoming Syrians who are muslims and if there was a choice, they would better welcome Macedoans than Syrians.Germany has a very high population of Turks who came kitambo.So Islam + terrorism = extremism. Its a wait and see.

most of the refugees are from isis countries ...don't generalise Africans. ..If it an Eritrean say so but lump all Africans in a boat
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digitek1
#22 Posted : Saturday, September 05, 2015 11:29:40 AM
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masukuma wrote:
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Europe has been met by an Unprecedented refugee crisis in a scale never seen before. Its rumored that more than 185,000 migrants have come into Europe in the last three months with majority coming from war torn regions-Syria, Iraq, Palestine and off course them Africans. With Some countries struggling with record unemployment, low economic growth, these immigrants are pushing their way to the West of Europe-Germany, France, Austria etc.
The free border movement has been restricted in nearly all Mediterranean nations with further push in Hungary. This crisis will lead to racism and violence against the immigrants.
E.U parliament had avoided this debate calling for nations-Italy and Greece Mostly to handle the maritime operations from African migrants but when Syrian refugees hit mainland Europe, everyone is closing borders except Germany. Europe soon will not be a place to visit due to the negative sentiments

yes... I foresee lots of right wing governments taking control of these countries as well... it will swing more and more right expecially on immigration and welfare. I heard the Hungarians saying... it's "a german problem" coz no one wants to stay in Hungary they want to go to Germany! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

this drama is just starting to playout! it's sad! This all could have been stopped if they did not decide that the "arab spring" was a good thing! now people are using Libya like it's no-man's land! Kumbe we are all connected!

185k are not that many Kakuma has had over 1m. Most refugees who are able to immigrate tend to be richer hence more enlightened. in EU system it's harder to stay undocumented compared to say US. .so one way or another the system will catch up with them. France already has significant muslims and apart from a few rotten apples most have integrated.
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digitek1
#23 Posted : Saturday, September 05, 2015 11:36:08 AM
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dunkang wrote:
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Shak wrote:
A large number of these refugees are Muslims fleeing countries like Syria, Iraq and Palestine. They are fleeing to countries like Germany and France whom they consider as infidels. Why aren't they running to Islamic states like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar? Or have their brothers decided to reject them?


Similar questions. UAE Qatar Kuwait SA are more richer and geographically near. Why then to EU

Because religion is a lie. Deep down inside themselves, they know the infidels (Non-religious people) tend to be better thinkers (intelligent) and have by-far better morals than the religious people. That you can take to any SACCO of your choice.
True
contrary to what kina Guru claim here most people in these sharia states are not happy since they are denied that most essential ingredient of human life...choice. ...a commodity readily available in Europe
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masukuma
#24 Posted : Saturday, September 05, 2015 11:43:22 AM
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digitek1 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
shadowinvestor wrote:
Europe has been met by an Unprecedented refugee crisis in a scale never seen before. Its rumored that more than 185,000 migrants have come into Europe in the last three months with majority coming from war torn regions-Syria, Iraq, Palestine and off course them Africans. With Some countries struggling with record unemployment, low economic growth, these immigrants are pushing their way to the West of Europe-Germany, France, Austria etc.
The free border movement has been restricted in nearly all Mediterranean nations with further push in Hungary. This crisis will lead to racism and violence against the immigrants.
E.U parliament had avoided this debate calling for nations-Italy and Greece Mostly to handle the maritime operations from African migrants but when Syrian refugees hit mainland Europe, everyone is closing borders except Germany. Europe soon will not be a place to visit due to the negative sentiments

yes... I foresee lots of right wing governments taking control of these countries as well... it will swing more and more right expecially on immigration and welfare. I heard the Hungarians saying... it's "a german problem" coz no one wants to stay in Hungary they want to go to Germany! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

this drama is just starting to playout! it's sad! This all could have been stopped if they did not decide that the "arab spring" was a good thing! now people are using Libya like it's no-man's land! Kumbe we are all connected!

185k are not that many Kakuma has had over 1m. Most refugees who are able to immigrate tend to be richer hence more enlightened. in EU system it's harder to stay undocumented compared to say US. .so one way or another the system will catch up with them. France already has significant muslims and apart from a few rotten apples most have integrated.

Did you read the"3months bit?" Do you think they care about the system catching up with them? Do you think the system will deport that number of people? These are huge numbers of people... Hakuna kurudi nyuma. And Europe know that... Once they are in.. Hawaendi mahali! That is why people would rather give money to a problem that is "over there" than have the problem come "over here".
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#25 Posted : Saturday, September 05, 2015 12:32:20 PM
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dunkang wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
Shak wrote:
A large number of these refugees are Muslims fleeing countries like Syria, Iraq and Palestine. They are fleeing to countries like Germany and France whom they consider as infidels. Why aren't they running to Islamic states like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar? Or have their brothers decided to reject them?


Similar questions. UAE Qatar Kuwait SA are more richer and geographically near. Why then to EU

Because religion is a lie. Deep down inside themselves, they know the infidels (Non-religious people) tend to be better thinkers (intelligent) and have by-far better morals than the religious people. That you can take to any SACCO of your choice.


@dunkang, Applause Applause Applause

You have called it as it is. That the average Muslim would rather take refuge in a country where it is illegal for their wife and daughter to wear a hijab (read infidel). And not his immediate Muslim neighbour.

Seems like this crisis will unravel many things. One of the casualties will be the well packaged lie of religion.

I doubt whether religions will survive the next 50 years.
tycho
#26 Posted : Saturday, September 05, 2015 8:39:47 PM
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It seems the irreligious and intelligent folk here are more obsessed with religion than the so called religious people.
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#27 Posted : Sunday, September 06, 2015 5:30:55 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
Shak wrote:
A large number of these refugees are Muslims fleeing countries like Syria, Iraq and Palestine. They are fleeing to countries like Germany and France whom they consider as infidels. Why aren't they running to Islamic states like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar? Or have their brothers decided to reject them?


Similar questions. UAE Qatar Kuwait SA are more richer and geographically near. Why then to EU


Muslim Countries Refuse to Take A Single Syrian Refugee, Cite Risk of Exposure to Terrorism

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Five of the wealthiest Muslim countries have taken no Syrian refugees in at all, arguing that doing so would open them up to the risk of terrorism.


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He said: “The records of Gulf countries is absolutely appalling, in terms of actually showing compassion and sharing the responsibility of this crisis… It is a disgrace.” None of the Gulf States signed the 1951 Refugee Convention, which legally defines a refugee as “A person who owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality”. However, they have taken refugees in the past.


Islamic State Terrorists Caught Crossing Into Europe Posing As Refugees

'Just wait…' Islamic State reveals it has smuggled THOUSANDS of extremists into Europe
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#28 Posted : Thursday, September 10, 2015 8:45:47 PM
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#29 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2015 11:47:02 AM
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This is what should have happened in AD 732!

Europe should have been conquered and Islamicized had Islamists won the Battle or Tours.

Better late than never!
Swenani
#30 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2015 12:45:58 PM
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This is what should have happened in AD 732!

Europe should have been conquered and Islamicized had Islamists won the Battle or Tours.

Better late than never!



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#31 Posted : Friday, September 11, 2015 12:51:28 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:


This is what should have happened in AD 732!

Europe should have been conquered and Islamicized had Islamists won the Battle or Tours.

Better late than never!



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Yes.
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#32 Posted : Saturday, September 12, 2015 6:31:19 AM
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The pic of a drowned kid doing the rounds is heart breaking Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad

Capsized boat survivors claim Aylan Kurdi's father is people smuggler
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#33 Posted : Thursday, October 01, 2015 5:45:00 PM
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Sijawahi ona watu wanajipenda na wachoyo kama wazungu!!

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These aren't Syrians. They’re Albanians trying to get to Italy in the 90s

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#34 Posted : Monday, November 02, 2015 5:31:49 AM
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#35 Posted : Monday, November 02, 2015 8:35:44 AM
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Sijawahi ona watu wanajipenda na wachoyo kama wazungu!!

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These aren't Syrians. They’re Albanians trying to get to Italy in the 90s



I read somewhere that these were European escaping the Nazi/WW-II to America?
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#36 Posted : Wednesday, November 25, 2015 6:13:20 PM
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http://africanleadership.co.uk/blog/?p=4873
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500 Nigerians have been deported from the United Kingdom and arrived the Murtala Mohammed International Airport Lagos this morning. Many of them were deported for illegal stay permits. When interviewed, one of them said he was arrested by British police and was not allowed to even take his belongings before being deported. UK government plans to deport 29,000 Nigerians.

The Nigerian government has frowned at the mass deportation, stating that efforts must be made by the UK government to ensure those being deported are really Nigerians, medically fit to travel and have a role to play in the country - meaning they should be able to fit into Nigerian society.
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#37 Posted : Sunday, December 06, 2015 6:49:44 PM
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Saudi must stop financing fundamentalist mosques abroad: Merkel's deputy

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“We will prevent Saudi help in the building or financing of mosques in Germany where Wahhabi ideas are to be disseminated,” he told the Welt am Sonntag newspaper.

Wahhabism provided the “complete ideology of the Islamic State and contributes in other countries to a radicalisation of moderate Muslims,” he said, adding that “this is something we don’t need and don’t want in Germany”.
kiash
#38 Posted : Monday, December 07, 2015 9:13:32 PM
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Saudi must stop financing fundamentalist mosques abroad: Merkel's deputy

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“We will prevent Saudi help in the building or financing of mosques in Germany where Wahhabi ideas are to be disseminated,” he told the Welt am Sonntag newspaper.

Wahhabism provided the “complete ideology of the Islamic State and contributes in other countries to a radicalisation of moderate Muslims,” he said, adding that “this is something we don’t need and don’t want in Germany”.



They dont need to , i have seen of late many Syrians "converting" to christianity so that they can get assylum , reason, once they claim they are xtians, they cannot be sent back since they will face that stoning thing in their countries and pap ! assylum .Saw some wamevaa rosaries but your guess is the same as mine
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#39 Posted : Tuesday, December 08, 2015 12:43:00 AM
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#40 Posted : Tuesday, December 08, 2015 9:16:59 AM
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I can think of a couple of reasons why this is daft.... hmmm
so you burn homes of those people who are INSIDE? it's like you bring a hornet's nest into your tent then decide to hit it severally hoping to intimidate the hornets to "know their place"... it's safer to hit a hornet's nest outside and run into your tent - it's daft but safer!
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