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murchr
#161 Posted : Thursday, July 23, 2015 7:13:12 PM
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Meanwhile in SA

Governor of the Reserve Bank, Lesetja Kganyago announced today that the reserve bank will be hiking rates at 25 bases points. The repo rate will now be at 6%. Kganyago said the committee is concerned that failure to act against these heightened pressures and risks will cause inflation expectations to become entrenched at higher levels.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hisah
#162 Posted : Friday, July 24, 2015 8:26:39 AM
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murchr wrote:
Meanwhile in SA

Governor of the Reserve Bank, Lesetja Kganyago announced today that the reserve bank will be hiking rates at 25 bases points. The repo rate will now be at 6%. Kganyago said the committee is concerned that failure to act against these heightened pressures and risks will cause inflation expectations to become entrenched at higher levels.

These CBs will hike rates till they go nuts smile

INO, that news bite about NBK clearing the yuan is significant news! This will give legs to KES unlike these snappy CBR hike. No wonder the ICBC toured KE just before this newsflash and ahead of GES. The GES attendees will be whispering about this new development. Very sneaky from chinaman smile
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
maka
#163 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:24:49 AM
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http://www.businessdaily.../-/xag8mjz/-/index.html

Dangerous words...
possunt quia posse videntur
KulaRaha
#164 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:41:58 AM
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hisah wrote:
murchr wrote:
Meanwhile in SA

Governor of the Reserve Bank, Lesetja Kganyago announced today that the reserve bank will be hiking rates at 25 bases points. The repo rate will now be at 6%. Kganyago said the committee is concerned that failure to act against these heightened pressures and risks will cause inflation expectations to become entrenched at higher levels.

These CBs will hike rates till they go nuts smile

INO, that news bite about NBK clearing the yuan is significant news! This will give legs to KES unlike these snappy CBR hike. No wonder the ICBC toured KE just before this newsflash and ahead of GES. The GES attendees will be whispering about this new development. Very sneaky from chinaman smile


Really? Hmmm, I think the excitement is overdone. It will have little to no effect on the KES.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
muganda
#165 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2015 12:24:29 PM
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maka wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Njoroge-says-shilling-fall-now-beyond-CBK-control/-/539552/2811236/-/xag8mjz/-/index.html

Dangerous words...


Indeed, talk can be deadly. This interview alone has seen a loss of 0.50/- from yesterday's close - Usd/Kes currently at 102.405


Pesa Nane
#166 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2015 3:10:48 PM
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maka wrote:
http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Njoroge-says-shilling-fall-now-beyond-CBK-control/-/539552/2811236/-/xag8mjz/-/index.html

Dangerous words...

Header is an imagination of the inebriated journo! Read the text or watch the video posted above by @muganda
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
murchr
#167 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2015 5:17:48 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
hisah wrote:
murchr wrote:
Meanwhile in SA

Governor of the Reserve Bank, Lesetja Kganyago announced today that the reserve bank will be hiking rates at 25 bases points. The repo rate will now be at 6%. Kganyago said the committee is concerned that failure to act against these heightened pressures and risks will cause inflation expectations to become entrenched at higher levels.

These CBs will hike rates till they go nuts smile

INO, that news bite about NBK clearing the yuan is significant news! This will give legs to KES unlike these snappy CBR hike. No wonder the ICBC toured KE just before this newsflash and ahead of GES. The GES attendees will be whispering about this new development. Very sneaky from chinaman smile


Really? Hmmm, I think the excitement is overdone. It will have little to no effect on the KES.


Really? In a continent whose majority of imports are from China man? Again really?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hisah
#168 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:36:42 PM
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murchr wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
hisah wrote:
murchr wrote:
Meanwhile in SA

Governor of the Reserve Bank, Lesetja Kganyago announced today that the reserve bank will be hiking rates at 25 bases points. The repo rate will now be at 6%. Kganyago said the committee is concerned that failure to act against these heightened pressures and risks will cause inflation expectations to become entrenched at higher levels.

These CBs will hike rates till they go nuts smile

INO, that news bite about NBK clearing the yuan is significant news! This will give legs to KES unlike these snappy CBR hike. No wonder the ICBC toured KE just before this newsflash and ahead of GES. The GES attendees will be whispering about this new development. Very sneaky from chinaman smile


Really? Hmmm, I think the excitement is overdone. It will have little to no effect on the KES.


Really? In a continent whose majority of imports are from China man? Again really?

Short term obviously not. But long term the yuan clearing setup ensures that KE becomes a financial hub for Africa giving KES bull legs.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
KulaRaha
#169 Posted : Friday, July 31, 2015 9:10:11 AM
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So, despite selling over $60M on Wednesday, we are back at 102.70 levels with overnight at 18.5%. Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
hisah
#170 Posted : Friday, August 14, 2015 1:54:47 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
So, despite selling over $60M on Wednesday, we are back at 102.70 levels with overnight at 18.5%. Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Two weeks later USD still at 102 and InterBank above 24%.

Sanity out the window!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
maka
#171 Posted : Friday, August 14, 2015 2:03:28 PM
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hisah wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
So, despite selling over $60M on Wednesday, we are back at 102.70 levels with overnight at 18.5%. Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Two weeks later USD still at 102 and InterBank above 24%.

Sanity out the window!


Another rate hike will have to happen...there are no 2 ways about it.

Came across this;-

Earlier today we met with the CBK to discuss macroeconomic developments within the Kenyan economy. We met Prof. Terry Ryan, senior adviser to the Monetary Policy Committee.

Of course with a new CBK governor at the helm we were interested to understand whether the central bank’s Taylor rule or philosophy had changed. Price stability remains their key mandate; however they did reiterate that if the pass through effects of a weaker KES jeopardizes their inflation outlook, they may be tempted to raise rates further.

In fact, they described their decision to hold rates at the MPC meeting last week as a ‘pause’ to wait and assess the impacts of their previous rate hikes. Our assessment that, given the CBK’s concern about the pass-through effects of KES weakness on inflation, the CBK would tighten the policy stance more aggressively if the pressures on the KES were to persist seems well-placed. Headline inflation is also likely to rise in Aug and Sep 15 on the back of higher fuel levies and base effects, another factor that puts the bias toward further tightening of the policy stance.

Moreover, with the US Federal Reserve likely to raise rates later this year he seemed calm about the ramifications it may have on the KES. He appears to believe that the market has largely priced in the effect of an imminent US rate hike and also seemed to concur with our thesis that the pressure on the BOP since Mar has been due to capital outflows, particularly portfolio flows.
Prof. Ryan also noted a concern about “refinancing risks” of government debt and hence gave an indication of a preference to issue bonds (2-y-10-y maturities) instead of T-bills. So, in effect, the CBK seems reluctant to have the government pay up for short-dated debt that will need to be rolled over within a year, but would rather have the government pay up for long-dated paper that will need to be rolled over after at least 2 years. This is an odd risk management strategy. It is always preferable for borrowers to look to shorten the duration of their new liabilities near the top of a rising interest rate environment that is expected to be transitory knowing that they will be stuck with high interest rates for a only short period of time, and can then look to issue longer maturities once interest rates have fallen back down.

Since the start of FY2015/16 in Jul cumulative net issuance of government T-bills and bonds was negative as of last week, i.e. maturities exceeded issuance of new paper. With the higher domestic borrowing target of KES223bn in FY2015/16 from KES163bn in FY2014/15 the government will need to pick up the pace of issuance of new paper. Liquidity conditions are quite tight, with the interbank rate in excess of 22%, and anecdotal evidence indicating that smaller commercial banks are bidding up for term deposits. In this environment it seems inevitable that yields on government paper will rise. But as already pointed out, it seems the preference is for much of this pressure to be focused at medium to long end of the curve.
possunt quia posse videntur
hisah
#172 Posted : Friday, August 14, 2015 2:25:03 PM
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maka wrote:
hisah wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
So, despite selling over $60M on Wednesday, we are back at 102.70 levels with overnight at 18.5%. Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Two weeks later USD still at 102 and InterBank above 24%.

Sanity out the window!


Another rate hike will have to happen...there are no 2 ways about it.

Came across this;-

Earlier today we met with the CBK to discuss macroeconomic developments within the Kenyan economy. We met Prof. Terry Ryan, senior adviser to the Monetary Policy Committee.

Of course with a new CBK governor at the helm we were interested to understand whether the central bank’s Taylor rule or philosophy had changed. Price stability remains their key mandate; however they did reiterate that if the pass through effects of a weaker KES jeopardizes their inflation outlook, they may be tempted to raise rates further.

In fact, they described their decision to hold rates at the MPC meeting last week as a ‘pause’ to wait and assess the impacts of their previous rate hikes. Our assessment that, given the CBK’s concern about the pass-through effects of KES weakness on inflation, the CBK would tighten the policy stance more aggressively if the pressures on the KES were to persist seems well-placed. Headline inflation is also likely to rise in Aug and Sep 15 on the back of higher fuel levies and base effects, another factor that puts the bias toward further tightening of the policy stance.

Moreover, with the US Federal Reserve likely to raise rates later this year he seemed calm about the ramifications it may have on the KES. He appears to believe that the market has largely priced in the effect of an imminent US rate hike and also seemed to concur with our thesis that the pressure on the BOP since Mar has been due to capital outflows, particularly portfolio flows.
Prof. Ryan also noted a concern about “refinancing risks” of government debt and hence gave an indication of a preference to issue bonds (2-y-10-y maturities) instead of T-bills. So, in effect, the CBK seems reluctant to have the government pay up for short-dated debt that will need to be rolled over within a year, but would rather have the government pay up for long-dated paper that will need to be rolled over after at least 2 years. This is an odd risk management strategy. It is always preferable for borrowers to look to shorten the duration of their new liabilities near the top of a rising interest rate environment that is expected to be transitory knowing that they will be stuck with high interest rates for a only short period of time, and can then look to issue longer maturities once interest rates have fallen back down.

Since the start of FY2015/16 in Jul cumulative net issuance of government T-bills and bonds was negative as of last week, i.e. maturities exceeded issuance of new paper. With the higher domestic borrowing target of KES223bn in FY2015/16 from KES163bn in FY2014/15 the government will need to pick up the pace of issuance of new paper. Liquidity conditions are quite tight, with the interbank rate in excess of 22%, and anecdotal evidence indicating that smaller commercial banks are bidding up for term deposits. In this environment it seems inevitable that yields on government paper will rise. But as already pointed out, it seems the preference is for much of this pressure to be focused at medium to long end of the curve.

Like I stated, sanity out the window.

The econ is tapped out. In such an environment you can hardly get any sustainable inflation spike. The CB will be forced to do the reverse very soon as the liquidity vacuum starts to derail the system.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
kizee1
#173 Posted : Friday, August 14, 2015 2:29:41 PM
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maka wrote:
hisah wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
So, despite selling over $60M on Wednesday, we are back at 102.70 levels with overnight at 18.5%. Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Two weeks later USD still at 102 and InterBank above 24%.

Sanity out the window!


Another rate hike will have to happen...there are no 2 ways about it.

Came across this;-

Earlier today we met with the CBK to discuss macroeconomic developments within the Kenyan economy. We met Prof. Terry Ryan, senior adviser to the Monetary Policy Committee.

Of course with a new CBK governor at the helm we were interested to understand whether the central bank’s Taylor rule or philosophy had changed. Price stability remains their key mandate; however they did reiterate that if the pass through effects of a weaker KES jeopardizes their inflation outlook, they may be tempted to raise rates further.

In fact, they described their decision to hold rates at the MPC meeting last week as a ‘pause’ to wait and assess the impacts of their previous rate hikes. Our assessment that, given the CBK’s concern about the pass-through effects of KES weakness on inflation, the CBK would tighten the policy stance more aggressively if the pressures on the KES were to persist seems well-placed. Headline inflation is also likely to rise in Aug and Sep 15 on the back of higher fuel levies and base effects, another factor that puts the bias toward further tightening of the policy stance.

Moreover, with the US Federal Reserve likely to raise rates later this year he seemed calm about the ramifications it may have on the KES. He appears to believe that the market has largely priced in the effect of an imminent US rate hike and also seemed to concur with our thesis that the pressure on the BOP since Mar has been due to capital outflows, particularly portfolio flows.
Prof. Ryan also noted a concern about “refinancing risks” of government debt and hence gave an indication of a preference to issue bonds (2-y-10-y maturities) instead of T-bills. So, in effect, the CBK seems reluctant to have the government pay up for short-dated debt that will need to be rolled over within a year, but would rather have the government pay up for long-dated paper that will need to be rolled over after at least 2 years. This is an odd risk management strategy. It is always preferable for borrowers to look to shorten the duration of their new liabilities near the top of a rising interest rate environment that is expected to be transitory knowing that they will be stuck with high interest rates for a only short period of time, and can then look to issue longer maturities once interest rates have fallen back down.

Since the start of FY2015/16 in Jul cumulative net issuance of government T-bills and bonds was negative as of last week, i.e. maturities exceeded issuance of new paper. With the higher domestic borrowing target of KES223bn in FY2015/16 from KES163bn in FY2014/15 the government will need to pick up the pace of issuance of new paper. Liquidity conditions are quite tight, with the interbank rate in excess of 22%, and anecdotal evidence indicating that smaller commercial banks are bidding up for term deposits. In this environment it seems inevitable that yields on government paper will rise. But as already pointed out, it seems the preference is for much of this pressure to be focused at medium to long end of the curve.



at this point whether to hike or not is moot, CBR is far behind market determined rates,once again the issue is not what caused the crisis of 2011, rates should never have gotten to this level
hisah
#174 Posted : Friday, August 14, 2015 3:24:03 PM
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@kizee1 I see a high likelihood of an inverted yield curve episode if the CB continues on this path.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
murchr
#175 Posted : Friday, August 14, 2015 3:37:20 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hisah
#176 Posted : Friday, August 14, 2015 3:59:49 PM
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murchr wrote:

True. So you can imagine what will happen to this one-sided USD bull party when they get disappointed with no rate hike. That USD will fall like a meteor!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#177 Posted : Friday, August 14, 2015 8:39:04 PM
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hisah wrote:
murchr wrote:

True. So you can imagine what will happen to this one-sided USD bull party when they get disappointed with no rate hike. That USD will fall like a meteor!

EMs and FMs like KE that have had their currencies battered will be the greatest beneficiaries. there will be no more need for those painful cbr hikes. Equities will sprout, everyone will smile.
Waiting for September for the USD shorts. Maybe then @Mnandii can make 2,000 pips plus on his $YEN bearssmile
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mazingira
#178 Posted : Wednesday, August 19, 2015 8:42:04 AM
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1.00 USD = 103.038 KES
US Dollar ↔ Kenyan Shilling
1 USD = 103.038 KES 1 KES = 0.00970517 USD

The $ actually dropped against other world majors.
snipermnoma
#179 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:46:56 PM
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CBK has the dollar at mean of 103.7712. So we are still seeing a slide. Looks like a rate hike will be on the cards next month.
hisah
#180 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:36:27 PM
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snipermnoma wrote:
CBK has the dollar at mean of 103.7712. So we are still seeing a slide. Looks like a rate hike will be on the cards next month.

No CB is larger than the market. The governor has realized this as per his last statement. If they hike rates with the current global turmoil, NSE will crash land and that would still not save KES.

For now it's 'sit on your hands' time as the saying goes in the trading pit. Let the carnage be.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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