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Mumias Sugar huge demand
sqft
#1456 Posted : Tuesday, July 07, 2015 8:54:33 PM
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I was at Nakumatt and saw 2kg Lugazi sugar from uganda selling at 195bob while mumias is at 240. How will they compete?
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
Chaka
#1457 Posted : Tuesday, July 07, 2015 9:06:02 PM
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sqft wrote:
I was at Nakumatt and saw 2kg Lugazi sugar from uganda selling at 195bob while mumias is at 240. How will they compete?

May be that Lugazi sugar is half as sweet as Mumias i,e literally?
technician
#1458 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:48:52 AM
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This would be a good place to buy MSC, looks like there are no bears left as price has refused to go below the 2 shillings support level.

Investors are selling this stock at a throw away price, one can literally collect a lot of shares.

Buying low and waiting
streetwise
#1459 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:11:59 AM
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For one with money that has no immeduiate use this can be a kill.
Imagine 100K shares as 2 bob. And for argument sake the price goes to 10 Bob.

To jorg your mind , remember Unga at 12 bob and now 45 bob
sparkly
#1460 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:17:25 AM
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streetwise wrote:
For one with money that has no immeduiate use this can be a kill.
Imagine 100K shares as 2 bob. And for argument sake the price goes to 10 Bob.

To jorg your mind , remember Unga at 12 bob and now 45 bob

Take your money to the Casino. similar odds, 1% to win the jackpot and 99% to lose your money.
Life is short. Live passionately.
dunkang
#1461 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:25:53 AM
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streetwise wrote:
For one with money that has no immeduiate use this can be a kill.
Imagine 100K shares as 2 bob. And for argument sake the price goes to 10 Bob.

To jorg your mind , remember Unga at 12 bob and now 45 bob

I disagree. Not Mumias. Labda kwengine.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

streetwise
#1462 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:26:35 AM
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Hapana , at the casino you are guaranteed to lose 100%. Tell me any one who made money in the casino and I will tell you 100 who have made money at the stock market including Mumias
mzitoaggrey
#1463 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:43:50 AM
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What impact will the government's move to write off debts owed to sugar millers to the tune on 35 billion have on the sugar sector?
Njung'e
#1464 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 12:32:56 PM
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mzitoaggrey wrote:
What impact will the government's move to write off debts owed to sugar millers to the tune on 35 billion have on the sugar sector?


That will attract investors when it comes to privatizing. Overall, the various strategic investors to be picked will determine the fate of many mills. I must say that , as a country, we must avoid such bodies as ISGEC. Asian sugar industry and especially Indian, is nothing but filth and junk. let's invite the very best such as Suedzucker , Cosan , Louis Dreyfus or Wilmar amongst other.Such should impact on the efficiencies of our mills.
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HaMaina
#1465 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 4:00:30 PM
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Any news on the test Run and resumption of operations?
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technician
#1466 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 4:25:57 PM
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streetwise wrote:
For one with money that has no immeduiate use this can be a kill.
Imagine 100K shares as 2 bob. And for argument sake the price goes to 10 Bob.

To jorg your mind , remember Unga at 12 bob and now 45 bob


You have read my mind, imagine now 200K shares at 2 and price goes to 10 or 20 bob.

There is no risk on this one, after all there is bailout.
Pesa Nane
#1467 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:05:44 PM
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technician wrote:
streetwise wrote:
For one with money that has no immeduiate use this can be a kill.
Imagine 100K shares as 2 bob. And for argument sake the price goes to 10 Bob.

To jorg your mind , remember Unga at 12 bob and now 45 bob


You have read my mind, imagine now 200K shares at 2 and price goes to 10 or 20 bob.

There is no risk on this one, after all there is bailout.

That's a familiar song! Heard it just before being shafted with the Ksh. 49.50 rights issues. Yes, Ksh. 49.50 per mumias sugar ordinary stock.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
VituVingiSana
#1468 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:28:46 PM
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streetwise wrote:
For one with money that has no immeduiate use this can be a kill.
Imagine 100K shares as 2 bob. And for argument sake the price goes to 10 Bob.

To jorg your mind , remember Unga at 12 bob and now 45 bob

Unga has consistently made a profit since 2011. It has valuable land, a brand name and even though its products are pricier (by 5-10%) many buy them because of the quality. Pays a dividend.
Compare to Mumias. The product is often missing, they have lots of debt, the brand value has been diminished and the price differential vs Lugazi is huge. It can't pay a dividend for a few years until the Revenue Reserves are positive.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#1469 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 5:30:52 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
mzitoaggrey wrote:
What impact will the government's move to write off debts owed to sugar millers to the tune on 35 billion have on the sugar sector?


That will attract investors when it comes to privatizing. Overall, the various strategic investors to be picked will determine the fate of many mills. I must say that , as a country, we must avoid such bodies as ISGEC. Asian sugar industry and especially Indian, is nothing but filth and junk. let's invite the very best such as Suedzucker , Cosan , Louis Dreyfus or Wilmar amongst other.Such should impact on the efficiencies of our mills.

Omnicane of Mauritius has partnered with the KUSCOL to revive Ramisi. I wonder how they are doing.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
technician
#1470 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:20:28 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
technician wrote:
streetwise wrote:
For one with money that has no immeduiate use this can be a kill.
Imagine 100K shares as 2 bob. And for argument sake the price goes to 10 Bob.

To jorg your mind , remember Unga at 12 bob and now 45 bob


You have read my mind, imagine now 200K shares at 2 and price goes to 10 or 20 bob.

There is no risk on this one, after all there is bailout.

That's a familiar song! Heard it just before being shafted with the Ksh. 49.50 rights issues. Yes, Ksh. 49.50 per mumias sugar ordinary stock.



MSC was risky for those who bought at 49.50

They bought high and they are now selling low

Those are the investors that took a risk

There is no risk for those buying now when it is low
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