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Apostle James Maina Ng'ang'a, allegedly drunk and violent
harrydre
#161 Posted : Saturday, August 22, 2015 2:29:52 PM
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murchr wrote:
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Either way Ng'ang'au is going to spent the said 50M on the court system and bolt out(note; social media does NOT give rulings/judgments in Kenyan courts yet but can influence nonetheless) . My take is, he spends it on the deceased lady's family.


i said that nikatukanwa! Now Ng'ang'a is out on bond. Sunday he will be in his church preaching and collecting more money and we might never hear about this case again. The family iko vile vile, upweke.

whatever happens to Ng'ang'a will not change this family, best thing would have been settle this out of court and give those kids a better life, after all he never left his home that day to go kill the woman. it was an accident.


The court process is still on. He is not free. No problem if he preaches, that was not the issue in the first place, the trial should go on to completion.

Just for my information, how much would you accept if someone killed your wife? Well, probably you dont have one, how much would be enough if someone killed your mother? Put a price tag. Lets see how much any of them is worth to you. Would money give those kids a better life than what they would have had with their mother? Lets put it to perspective, what is the price of a mother for a teenager going through puberty or early adulthood? Would you say you had a very good life because you were raised in money? Did they put an impression that they were lacking?

No doubt it was an accident. But for heavens sake how many laws were broken? Driving while intoxicated, without a valid insurance, then trying to cover up and more so, he still insists he's innocent and the car doesn't even belong to him. If he was in jail for killing the first time, would he have killed this woman? And why do we have MPs to make laws, police to enforce the law and a judiciary to make sure that the laws of the land are followed if we can always pay our way though it? Come on use that piece of matter in your head to think because right now you are not even using any of it.


Well, I would demand a college fund for the kids until they graduate with a masters degree and all other expenses and upkeep paid. I am being real here, my wife is dead she can't be brought back but then again a source of income was taken away and it would be fair for the kids not to suffer multiple losses due to this act ( loss of their mum and maybe their education and upkeep)


Call me foolish it's okay but I know what am talking about. When that guys goes through all the phases of grief, he will see why he needed to settle this out of court.
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kysse
#162 Posted : Saturday, August 22, 2015 3:06:57 PM
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murchr
#163 Posted : Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:41:07 PM
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Kaigangio wrote:
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@Murchr…are you the one who a couple of months back was blogging some sober, respectiveful and logical posts not lased with any emotional reactions? I cannot believe the unusual transition! You know what, when you start telling others about their foolishness based on their observations and opinoin on certain issues or telling other people that they are not using their brains, it might become necessary for others to ask why you are wasting your time in wazua arguing with fools…you will not be any different.
Secondly, the abusive stance that you take will not make you a hero or a winner in wazua…



When i see and smell foolishness i have to call it out. Am sorry if I hurt anyone but come on guys, let due process take its course, this might just be the beginning to the end of impunity. If the judge decides that Ng'ang'a should compensate the family, let it be. But the nonsense of doing it out of court should end.

I guess that comment elicited the kind of emotions that you experienced when they said landlords should pay taxes on income.

At least the landlords never scaled the roof tops to call tenants or other landlord names.
Settling out of court is happening all over the world and it is not just unique to Kenya.
Let us be real here. As of now the case in court is State vs Ng'ang'a where the husband to the dead one is the star witness and the husbands hands are tied here. The husband would like to see this pastor in jail for a long time, but again he would not want that to happen. Remember this is not a murder case. Here the man of cloth will play his cards well with the magistrate and eventually will escape with a very light sentense or fine…the husband will do nothing about it.
However, since a jail term or a fine will not bring the dead one back to life, the husband will definitely sue the pastor for compensation, both himself and the late wife. This is where the out of court negotiations will be done.
Going by latest happenings around Kenya, the husband to the late would rather not have the pastor behind the bars so that he (husband) would have something to collect from Ng'ang'a sooner than later.


Settling out of court is only viable when the accused has agreed and he's apologizing for committing his offense. In this case this criminal has denied even being in the crime scene so what is he settling out of court? Let him prove his innocence in court. After all there are people who are paid to determine that.

Harrydre, how much is that college fund. And who's to tell what college these kids will go to? Harvard, Oxford, Mt Kenya Uni or Zetech?
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obiero
#164 Posted : Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:04:00 PM
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@murchr changed.. he became very bitter in late 2014

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#165 Posted : Sunday, August 23, 2015 2:21:40 PM
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murchr wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
murchr wrote:
harrydre wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
murchr wrote:
harrydre wrote:
hii familia iache ujinga. whether Ng'ang'a is hanged or jailed for life will not bring their mother back, what they should do is get an out of court deal with Ng'ang'a say 50 million to care for the kids left behind.

Yes he will be arrested today, taken to court and in few days he will be out, then what?


STUPID!!!

The idiot should rot in jail for causing death while driving while drunk and uninsured.

He has hired Cliff Ombeta as his lawyer so yes that should tell you something.

If you dint know this is what section 12 of Cap 403 of the laws of Kenya.

Careless driving causing death: Life Imprisonment. This is being treated like murder.
Driving under influence of alcohol: A fine of Ksh 500, 000 or ten years in jail or both.

The resident magistrate handling this case will be close to kshs 10million richer by the time Ng'ang'a is exonorated from any wrong doing and acquited , after 10 years…very reformed judiciary!


that's exactly what I am talking about...he might not even spend a month in jail....does the family have a money to hire the best lawyer in town? hiyo pesa ya magistrate, lawyer, few busy bodies here and there should have gone straight to the family at least assist in raising the shudrens. hii ni Kenya bwana Murchr


Its this kind of FOOLISHNESS that has got Kenya where it is in the first place. Impunity everywhere then we blame politicians. Let that judge get that 10trillion if he wants to, he might just be the next person that Ng'ang'a kills on the next accident. I wonder if you'd be of the same opinion if this was Dr. Owuor. Nonsense!!


You see murchr an old adage "Ciathua ndongoria itikinyagira nyeki". I don't know a lot of english to translate but I am inviting @ guka to do that for you. may be you might start seeing things in a different dimension.
Some things or issues like these goes beyond tribal where a criminal offence has been committed. A corrupt judge will not see crime or evidence from whoever, but MONEY.
Lastly, it is not that foolishness that you want us to believe that has gotten us to where we are, but rather our failure to act on what we have been seeing or taken through...
...And murchr, let us be real currently not hypothetical.


Clearly foolishness has made you helpless such that you cannot see beyond your nose. This woman who was killed was not the first, and its likely she will not be the last if this criminal is let go. An American would tell you "SOMETHING GOTTA GIVE" Just as an elastic band...you cant stretch it endlessly it has to snap. Let that corrupt judge take up that bribe well and good the bitch called Karma lives. Again, that judge might just be one Justice Ombija and this man is found guilty and get locked up, the fact is, if that happens then we'll have a precedent and hope. If not, its still ok, we can wait till he kills more with his vyumas. Who knows one day he might just get you in your Nissan March and take you out.

As for the nonsense that the family should take the money and walk...that's just hogwash. Will that money bring back the wife, mother, daughter? There's more to life than paper people. Work hard and get more of it and you'll see understand that. Shida ni mbaya kweli


Isn't it time we adopted/ included restitution in our laws?
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tycho
#166 Posted : Sunday, August 23, 2015 4:17:27 PM
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I think we can have both a criminal and civil case here, and if it's a matter of out of court settlement then civil proceedings should facilitate that.

The problem I can foresee is where the 'victim' lacks legal counsel, and he lacks capacity to litigate pro se.
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#167 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 9:13:03 AM
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With Cliff on his side the pastor will walk on a technicality, thanks to shoddy investigations and gathering of evidence. The law can easily make one a cynic - I really can't see how any justice will be served. Poetic justice seems to be the only respite for the poor...if it ever happens. The moral quagmire of taking the money and letting the matter be is a hard one...not sure I'd be able to sleep at night. And the pastor may not have left that morning intending to kill anyone but driving with impunity on the wrong lane is definitely reckless, and for that he should be punished
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#168 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 9:44:46 AM
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It must be proven that the pastor was actually the one on the steering wheel and that he wasn't being chauffeured. Being spotted on the accident scene doesn't mean that he was necessarily the driver. The fact that he had a bodyguard means that he most likely also had a driver. It must be proven beyond any reasonable doubt that it was him on the wheel. And that is why he will escape.
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#169 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 9:50:04 AM
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As you are complaining here on wazua he wants to renovate 2 toilets at Gigiri police post at 3.5m and his flock are rushing to contribute.This man and those fools of his are amazing!!!!!!!!
http://www.the-star.co.k...he-spent-two-nights-cell
hardwood
#170 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 10:18:01 AM
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Funny:

Embattled pastor James Ng'ang'a of Neno Evangelism centre now says he will sponsor a Sh3.5 million facelift of Gigiri police station's cells, where he spent two nights last week.

Ng'ang'a said the station is in a pathetic condition especially its toilets.

The apostle spent two nights at the station after he was arrested on Wednesday in connection with a car crash that left Mercy Njeri dead.

Ng'ang'a said he will renovate the ablution facilities and repaint the station.

“Before I left, I told OCS Joshua Ekirapa I will come back and repair the toilets,” Ng'ang'a said.
- See more at: http://www.the-star.co.k...ell#sthash.xHyDpxIo.dpuf
AlphDoti
#171 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 12:40:12 PM
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murchr wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Swenani wrote:
nakujua wrote:
hapa niko na @murchr, yaani some are of the opinion that the family be paid - enyewe tuko hapa hapa na sio pale pale for a reason. Sad
The case in in court so the outcome is not known, lakini taking a hypothetical scenario where someone kills my wife, I would never take cash from them as payment - wacha ikae, kwani hii pesa haiwezi tafutwa.

I thought I was the only remaining man,kumbe we are two!!!

@nakujua, I think that is to rigid stand.

There are two ways out of the problem by law:
1. the law of equality: eye for an eye. The guy to face death sentence.

2. But if any remission is made by the family of the killed woman, then grant any reasonable demand, and compensate family with handsome gratitude

A rigid stand will not benefit the family. If he goes to jail, the family will feel satisfied, and nothing more. If he is made to pay blood money, then Ng'nga will feel the pinch and the family will get compensation and feel satisfied.

So I would go for option (2).

What is blood money? Watch this woman then answer

It is depressing. I feel for the victim of such carelessness. You see, we are all different. And because of difference in us and situation, the law allows for different ways of settling such grave matters. Even if I said we always go for option (1) with no one being given option (2), still @mawinder would come here and call me names. I just listed what the law provides.

I really feel for the mother above. And for her, she chose option (1), no forgiveness. And that's her right. She said she's not forgiving the guy, so the law decided to give the guy whatever number of years in jail.

Coming back home... you know our Kenyan judiciary very well. That's why in my comment above, I said given the circumstances, I would go for option (2), because I wonder how many years Ng'ang'a would go to jail in Kenya? 10yrs? 5 yrs? 2yrs? 1yr?
AlphDoti
#172 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 12:51:51 PM
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mawinder wrote:
nakujua wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Swenani wrote:
nakujua wrote:
hapa niko na @murchr, yaani some are of the opinion that the family be paid - enyewe tuko hapa hapa na sio pale pale for a reason. Sad
The case in in court so the outcome is not known, lakini taking a hypothetical scenario where someone kills my wife, I would never take cash from them as payment - wacha ikae, kwani hii pesa haiwezi tafutwa.

I thought I was the only remaining man,kumbe we are two!!!

@nakujua, I think that is to rigid stand.

There are two ways out of the problem by law:
1. the law of equality: eye for an eye. The guy to face death sentence.

2. But if any remission is made by the family of the killed woman, then grant any reasonable demand, and compensate family with handsome gratitude

A rigid stand will not benefit the family. If he goes to jail, the family will feel satisfied, and nothing more. If he is made to pay blood money, then Ng'nga will feel the pinch and the family will get compensation and feel satisfied.

So I would go for option (2).

Well that's you, I am not claiming a higher standing but receiving cash from an individual who killed someone I love, for the death would feel weird to me - at the end of the day as I said pesa inaweza tafutwa, some things can not.

so if an individual kills your wife and pays you for that, then they come back and kill your daughter and pays you for it - at whatw point does it stop, killers might have a tendency to repeat their actions.

With Alphadoti's reasoning it is okay if my boys rape his mother and he is paid 2m for it.

To me, punishment for rape is very clear: stoning the perpetrator to death if he is married, and 100 lashes and banishment for one year if he is not married.

As regards accidentally killing, its punishment is different. You see, the pastor may not have woken up that morning intending to kill anyone, but he was reckless in driving, and as a result he caused death, so he should be punished, and law provides the above options. NOTE: I'm not in any way suggesting the pastor be let free, no. He should face the law.
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#173 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 1:10:42 PM
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Even if the pastor goes to jail, some form of restitution would go some way in making things easier for the family. I still root for the law to be followed though I imagine that it will be like the case of Old Mr Delamere. The family of Ole Sisina who was shot by Delamere is still living in penury while the killer served 8 months in prison. What justice is this? Nkt
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nakujua
#174 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 1:57:45 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
mawinder wrote:
nakujua wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Swenani wrote:
nakujua wrote:
hapa niko na @murchr, yaani some are of the opinion that the family be paid - enyewe tuko hapa hapa na sio pale pale for a reason. Sad
The case in in court so the outcome is not known, lakini taking a hypothetical scenario where someone kills my wife, I would never take cash from them as payment - wacha ikae, kwani hii pesa haiwezi tafutwa.

I thought I was the only remaining man,kumbe we are two!!!

@nakujua, I think that is to rigid stand.

There are two ways out of the problem by law:
1. the law of equality: eye for an eye. The guy to face death sentence.

2. But if any remission is made by the family of the killed woman, then grant any reasonable demand, and compensate family with handsome gratitude

A rigid stand will not benefit the family. If he goes to jail, the family will feel satisfied, and nothing more. If he is made to pay blood money, then Ng'nga will feel the pinch and the family will get compensation and feel satisfied.

So I would go for option (2).

Well that's you, I am not claiming a higher standing but receiving cash from an individual who killed someone I love, for the death would feel weird to me - at the end of the day as I said pesa inaweza tafutwa, some things can not.

so if an individual kills your wife and pays you for that, then they come back and kill your daughter and pays you for it - at whatw point does it stop, killers might have a tendency to repeat their actions.

With Alphadoti's reasoning it is okay if my boys rape his mother and he is paid 2m for it.

To me, punishment for rape is very clear: stoning the perpetrator to death if he is married, and 100 lashes and banishment for one year if he is not married.

As regards accidentally killing, its punishment is different. You see, the pastor may not have woken up that morning intending to kill anyone, but he was reckless in driving, and as a result he caused death, so he should be punished, and law provides the above options. NOTE: I'm not in any way suggesting the pastor be let free, no. He should face the law.

You never fail to amaze me, so if one is not married the rape is less or something - you seriously think if a man is not married and they rape your daughter they should walk after one year Sad
mawinder
#175 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 2:04:22 PM
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Robinhood wrote:
Even if the pastor goes to jail, some form of restitution would go some way in making things easier for the family. I still root for the law to be followed though I imagine that it will be like the case of Old Mr Delamere. The family of Ole Sisina who was shot by Delamere is still living in penury while the killer served 8 months in prison. What justice is this? Nkt

Seems you have little understanding of the law.
The husband can go to court now even before the conclusion of the traffic case and sue Nganga for damages.He can still wait for the verdict, use the verdict if Nganga is found guilty as evidence in the civil suit and he will be paid.He does not need legal fees upfront as there are many ambulance chasers who can do the job for him and recover from the award.He only needs to choose a reputable one.Remember the Delamere case was a criminal one and not a traffic case which are 2 different cases!!!!!!!!!!!
nakujua
#176 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 2:09:01 PM
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Robinhood wrote:
Even if the pastor goes to jail, some form of restitution would go some way in making things easier for the family. I still root for the law to be followed though I imagine that it will be like the case of Old Mr Delamere. The family of Ole Sisina who was shot by Delamere is still living in penury while the killer served 8 months in prison. What justice is this? Nkt

sasa hii restitution does it only apply to those with lots of cash.

Assume a boda boda hustler consumes some froth from the ruaraka river, get on his bike veers onto the walkway and knock down your loved one.

Now would you be ok with them paying you a restitution, instead of them walking away on a technicality since the cop who first came to the scene missed to collect evidence - lets say all they can afford is 10k.
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#177 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 2:41:29 PM
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nakujua wrote:
Robinhood wrote:
Even if the pastor goes to jail, some form of restitution would go some way in making things easier for the family. I still root for the law to be followed though I imagine that it will be like the case of Old Mr Delamere. The family of Ole Sisina who was shot by Delamere is still living in penury while the killer served 8 months in prison. What justice is this? Nkt

sasa hii restitution does it only apply to those with lots of cash.

Assume a boda boda hustler consumes some froth from the ruaraka river, get on his bike veers onto the walkway and knock down your loved one.

Now would you be ok with them paying you a restitution, instead of them walking away on a technicality since the cop who first came to the scene missed to collect evidence - lets say all they can afford is 10k.

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AlphDoti
#178 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 2:41:36 PM
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nakujua wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
mawinder wrote:
nakujua wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Swenani wrote:
nakujua wrote:
hapa niko na @murchr, yaani some are of the opinion that the family be paid - enyewe tuko hapa hapa na sio pale pale for a reason. Sad
The case in in court so the outcome is not known, lakini taking a hypothetical scenario where someone kills my wife, I would never take cash from them as payment - wacha ikae, kwani hii pesa haiwezi tafutwa.

I thought I was the only remaining man,kumbe we are two!!!

@nakujua, I think that is to rigid stand.

There are two ways out of the problem by law:
1. the law of equality: eye for an eye. The guy to face death sentence.

2. But if any remission is made by the family of the killed woman, then grant any reasonable demand, and compensate family with handsome gratitude

A rigid stand will not benefit the family. If he goes to jail, the family will feel satisfied, and nothing more. If he is made to pay blood money, then Ng'nga will feel the pinch and the family will get compensation and feel satisfied.

So I would go for option (2).

Well that's you, I am not claiming a higher standing but receiving cash from an individual who killed someone I love, for the death would feel weird to me - at the end of the day as I said pesa inaweza tafutwa, some things can not.

so if an individual kills your wife and pays you for that, then they come back and kill your daughter and pays you for it - at whatw point does it stop, killers might have a tendency to repeat their actions.

With Alphadoti's reasoning it is okay if my boys rape his mother and he is paid 2m for it.

To me, punishment for rape is very clear: stoning the perpetrator to death if he is married, and 100 lashes and banishment for one year if he is not married.

As regards accidentally killing, its punishment is different. You see, the pastor may not have woken up that morning intending to kill anyone, but he was reckless in driving, and as a result he caused death, so he should be punished, and law provides the above options. NOTE: I'm not in any way suggesting the pastor be let free, no. He should face the law.

You never fail to amaze me, so if one is not married the rape is less or something - you seriously think if a man is not married and they rape your daughter they should walk after one year Sad

Yes, when one is not married, the punishment is less as compared to a married man, which is treated like adultery since he had no excuse since he has a wife at home, so he is stoned to death.
As for unmarried, remember it's difficult to prove rape. And please don't confuse pedophile and rape. Rape involves an adult woman, while pedophilia is for underage girl. So if woman is raped by unmarried man and proven (which is difficult coz the woman might have just raised the alarm because of a deal gone wrong), then the man is flogged 100 lashes.

About walking away after one year, that one is yours. I didn't say anything about 1 year.
Robinhood
#179 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 3:18:49 PM
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mawinder wrote:
Robinhood wrote:
Even if the pastor goes to jail, some form of restitution would go some way in making things easier for the family. I still root for the law to be followed though I imagine that it will be like the case of Old Mr Delamere. The family of Ole Sisina who was shot by Delamere is still living in penury while the killer served 8 months in prison. What justice is this? Nkt

Seems you have little understanding of the law.
The husband can go to court now even before the conclusion of the traffic case and sue Nganga for damages.He can still wait for the verdict, use the verdict if Nganga is found guilty as evidence in the civil suit and he will be paid.He does not need legal fees upfront as there are many ambulance chasers who can do the job for him and recover from the award.He only needs to choose a reputable one.Remember the Delamere case was a criminal one and not a traffic case which are 2 different cases!!!!!!!!!!!


Mawinder my brother. You are the one whose understanding of things is clouded by bile. Take a pill chill buda! You pursue this thing legally and it is stalled in the courts for ages, then the fellow pours cash at every turn and buys off every witness he can find. You may end up with a few million shillings at the end of a donkey's years but after your kids have suffered like crap. Or finally the judge dismisses the case and laments the poor quality of investigations and disappearing witnesses and/or court files. Or some may be some insurer pays. Pata potea.
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murchr
#180 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 4:56:21 PM
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Robinhood wrote:
mawinder wrote:
Robinhood wrote:
Even if the pastor goes to jail, some form of restitution would go some way in making things easier for the family. I still root for the law to be followed though I imagine that it will be like the case of Old Mr Delamere. The family of Ole Sisina who was shot by Delamere is still living in penury while the killer served 8 months in prison. What justice is this? Nkt

Seems you have little understanding of the law.
The husband can go to court now even before the conclusion of the traffic case and sue Nganga for damages.He can still wait for the verdict, use the verdict if Nganga is found guilty as evidence in the civil suit and he will be paid.He does not need legal fees upfront as there are many ambulance chasers who can do the job for him and recover from the award.He only needs to choose a reputable one.Remember the Delamere case was a criminal one and not a traffic case which are 2 different cases!!!!!!!!!!!


Mawinder my brother. You are the one whose understanding of things is clouded by bile. Take a pill chill buda! You pursue this thing legally and it is stalled in the courts for ages, then the fellow pours cash at every turn and buys off every witness he can find. You may end up with a few million shillings at the end of a donkey's years but after your kids have suffered like crap. Or finally the judge dismisses the case and laments the poor quality of investigations and disappearing witnesses and/or court files. Or some may be some insurer pays. Pata potea.


Looks like @mawinder has spent a considerable amount of time in the corridors of justice. Once the judge finds this criminal guilty, the victim(s) can file for restitution for injury caused and loss of a life (bread winner) and time lost out of work among other things.
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