People who quote the bible as a source of reference are usually low IQ people. You have to be the dumbest person to say that the bible teaches against getting rich. Ati camel through the eye of a needle, just what bull crap is that? Does that mean that we should stay poor in order to get into heaven? I swear you evangelicals are the stupidest people alive.

Mukiri, your posts is as ambiguous as they come. You can't just say that this philosophy student asked questions and got answers, that is being sly. You religious people like hiding behind ambiguous statements because you lack substance. What questions did he ask and what answers did he get? Post them here so we can analyze those questions and answers. Wacha kujifanya mjanja.

Alafu these regurgitated sayings that make no sense but serve to strike fear into gullible and dumb religious people. Who say that if you gain the world that you lose your "soul"? There are a lot of rich and wealthy men who have gained the world and stayed grounded. Mukiri, before you go quoting stupid sayings, try to reason and see if they actually make sense. We are in the 21st century, we have to question things for us to be more informed and smarter.

Thank God I'm an atheist.

Why not thank your IQ?

@hamburglar, arrogance is what makes people rebellious. For example, a child who later disrespects the parents, to a point of even telling them they are stupid, or they are good for nothing, that he's smart and he does not need those parents. The arrogant child forgets where he came from. He forgets he never made himself, he was formed in his mother's womb. The "foolish" mother carried him in her womb and gave birth to him and breastfed him and nursed him and taught him how to talk!

Now that he has learned sophisticated languages, his healthy legs are carrying him around, his hands which are beautiful, his handsome face which was never burnt by hot water etc.

I relate this to your arrogance that has clouded your appreciation that you didn't create yourself. And neither did your parents create themselves, neither did the sophisticated universe. The order in things proves that there is planning in all this. Your alleged brain should at least make you humble enough to recognize this?

Too much matusi for me to read.

I live and let live. Won't hear me abusing you for exercising your rights.

my theory is Humans need to understand the universe... or at least be able to explain it to themselves! That is how the human brain works... it simply does not like saying SIJUI one too many times when confronted with a question and may need to delude itself into having an "answer". The people you ridicule - the people in the slums and the not so green areas of Kenya need to believe something! I think it was @Tycho who once asked and I paraphrase "what will we need to pray for" in the context of wealth, understanding. It's a plain fact that Religion is the opium of the poor ... and it's good for Opium to do it's thing! Numb the pain of poverty! Sedate the mind by telling it about a nicer place (paved with Gold) because if it does not... you will not like that horde of people matching your way.
I remember asking about this photo some years back

- I think @hambuglar had an answer that "the system failed the kid". I remember asking about the parent of this kid.. is he/she willing to believe that's it? the Kid was eaten by that vulture and THAT IS IT? I think we are not ready for the hordes of people living in destitution to believe "THIS IS IT! YOU DIED AND - THAT'S ALL FOLKS" simply because (my opinion) they will raid @Hambuglar's restaurant - kwani utaDo? Atheism only works with educated people simply because THEY KNOW BETTER and the system kinda works for them. Not for everyone! My thoughts!

My thought is that knowledge has no 'better'. Knowledge is about solving an experiential issue. And all experience is valid. Atheists know what they know, same for many other experiences that are possible.

Religion may be an opiate to the masses, but it may be something else to other humans. Imagine what religion was during the Renaissance for example. It was a spur for the sublime.

Not always. Thucydides made the quote in the 'Peloponysian war' when Athens and Sparta were at war, but neither party won, instead an outsider came in and took control. And the Macedonians discovered that civilizations are built by tact and consensus not might.

Tact and diplomacy was mightier!

Only that wasn't the question for the belligerents. I can even claim that tact and consensus was an emergent strategy. Something not amenable to predicted law and wisdom.