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VituVingiSana
#51 Posted : Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:15:30 PM
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@thedeal - MANAGEMENT is the first thing Warren Buffett looks at...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#52 Posted : Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:29:40 PM
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@ vvs true that...now lets look at equity vs kcb...both led by hot shot c.e.o's...equity according to my formula above is=13.79=buy where as kcb=6.5=sell...my formula disregards the price since its set by many factors i.e emotions and speculation...
youcan'tstopusnow
#53 Posted : Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:00:20 AM
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ProverB, what those people are doing is certainly not smart investing. I believe that smart investing is actually seeing opportunities WAY BEFORE others see it. e.g let me use your Mumias example. Buying after the 1st half results was not "smart investing". Those who bought at below 7 bob were indeed the smart investors. They did not wait for the results. They knew that Mumias had value and that new revenue which was not there before was being added into its income stream (i.e the Co-generation plant)
Another example I can use is PETROCHINA which Buffett bought and sold for a profit of 3.5 billion dollars. You have to love this dude. Buffett said:

“In 2002 and 2003 Berkshire bought 1.3% of PetroChina for $488 million, a price that valued the entire business at about $37 billion. Charlie [Munger] and I then felt that the company was worth about $100 billion. By 2007, two factors had materially increased its value: the price of oil had climbed significantly, and PetroChina’s management had done a great job in building oil and gas reserves. In the second half of last year, the market value of the company rose to $275 billion, about what we thought it was worth compared to other giant oil companies. So we sold our holdings for $4 billion"
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
obiero
#54 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 12:27:29 PM
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interesting read.. management comes before all else. if management cannot be trusted then do not attempt to purchase at whatever price. after mgt, I look at PE, EPS & dividend yield. However, sometimes I roll the dice and try to pick the bottom based on future projected gains

VituVingiSana
#55 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 1:08:28 PM
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obiero wrote:
interesting read.. management comes before all else. if management cannot be trusted then do not attempt to purchase at whatever price. after mgt, I look at PE, EPS & dividend yield. However, sometimes I roll the dice and try to pick the bottom based on future projected gains
Your buddy Alex Mbugua is still the CFO.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#56 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 1:31:00 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
interesting read.. management comes before all else. if management cannot be trusted then do not attempt to purchase at whatever price. after mgt, I look at PE, EPS & dividend yield. However, sometimes I roll the dice and try to pick the bottom based on future projected gains
Your buddy Alex Mbugua is still the CFO.

Iv just received a call and it is confirmed, he will be out soon, actually upon conclusion of the senate sitting..

VituVingiSana
#57 Posted : Monday, August 03, 2015 1:56:42 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
interesting read.. management comes before all else. if management cannot be trusted then do not attempt to purchase at whatever price. after mgt, I look at PE, EPS & dividend yield. However, sometimes I roll the dice and try to pick the bottom based on future projected gains
Your buddy Alex Mbugua is still the CFO.

Iv just received a call and it is confirmed, he will be out soon, actually upon conclusion of the senate sitting..

You must be devastated.
And I like this photo.
http://www.businessdaily...4/-/duuvntz/-/index.html
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#58 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2015 1:30:36 PM
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COOP, EQTY, KCB, PANAFRIC.. Fundamentally sound and ripe for purchase at current prices

Othelo
#59 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2015 1:33:03 PM
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obiero wrote:
COOP, EQTY, KCB, PANAFRIC.. Fundamentally sound and ripe for purchase at current prices

COOP ~ 18
EQTY ~ 32
KCB ~ <45
PANAFRIC --- never been on my rader!
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
obiero
#60 Posted : Tuesday, August 04, 2015 1:53:45 PM
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Othelo wrote:
obiero wrote:
COOP, EQTY, KCB, PANAFRIC.. Fundamentally sound and ripe for purchase at current prices

COOP ~ 18
EQTY ~ 32
KCB ~ <45
PANAFRIC --- never been on my rader!

Equity may not reach your target purchase price

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