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KQ FY15 Loss of Ksh. 26 Bn
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obiero
#41 Posted : Saturday, August 01, 2015 10:21:08 AM
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mulla wrote:
For the argument of averaging down i would wait until the real bear is in town to obtain KQ at its lowest. All the same this share requires a 5-10 year horizon to make worthwhile gains.
But my question is; Who do you reckon are the two major shareholders that the senate committee mentioned have been buying KQ shares in bulk as the price has been tanking??

IFC 143 million shares and KLM 348 million shares
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littledove
#42 Posted : Saturday, August 01, 2015 10:22:23 AM
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mulla wrote:
For the argument of averaging down i would wait until the real bear is in town to obtain KQ at its lowest. All the same this share requires a 5-10 year horizon to make worthwhile gains.
But my question is; Who do you reckon are the two major shareholders that the senate committee mentioned have been buying KQ shares in bulk as the price has been tanking??

@mulla i just asked myself the same and what came in my mind when i heard that was dj,what he tweeted during results announcement and the adverts, i will be keen on this one going foward
was it two major shareholders or two individuals?
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
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maka
#43 Posted : Saturday, August 01, 2015 10:36:27 AM
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littledove wrote:
mulla wrote:
For the argument of averaging down i would wait until the real bear is in town to obtain KQ at its lowest. All the same this share requires a 5-10 year horizon to make worthwhile gains.
But my question is; Who do you reckon are the two major shareholders that the senate committee mentioned have been buying KQ shares in bulk as the price has been tanking??

@mulla i just asked myself the same and what came in my mind when i heard that was dj,what he tweeted during results announcement and the adverts, i will be keen on this one going foward
was it two major shareholders or two individuals?


Two individuals...
possunt quia posse videntur
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mlennyma
#44 Posted : Saturday, August 01, 2015 10:45:58 AM
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One advantage of owning a vital business with govt is bailouts,buy,buy,buy and iam not mad.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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VituVingiSana
#45 Posted : Saturday, August 01, 2015 11:44:57 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
One advantage of owning a vital business with govt is bailouts,buy,buy,buy and iam not mad.

It's much better to put you money in a firm that grows WITHOUT bailouts (or access to bailouts) vs one that can be lax thanks to (potential) bailouts.
The bailouts don't help shareholders because the cash goes to pay off [politically connected or voters] debts.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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mlennyma
#46 Posted : Saturday, August 01, 2015 11:55:00 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
One advantage of owning a vital business with govt is bailouts,buy,buy,buy and iam not mad.

It's much better to put you money in a firm that grows WITHOUT bailouts (or access to bailouts) vs one that can be lax thanks to (potential) bailouts.
The bailouts don't help shareholders because the cash goes to pay off [politically connected or voters] debts.

you don't stay for long but you take the advantage of panic sells short term and exit
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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VituVingiSana
#47 Posted : Saturday, August 01, 2015 5:55:08 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
One advantage of owning a vital business with govt is bailouts,buy,buy,buy and iam not mad.

It's much better to put you money in a firm that grows WITHOUT bailouts (or access to bailouts) vs one that can be lax thanks to (potential) bailouts.
The bailouts don't help shareholders because the cash goes to pay off [politically connected or voters] debts.

you don't stay for long but you take the advantage of panic sells short term and exit
I am not a trader. So your view/focus is different from mine. I wish you luck.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Impunity
#48 Posted : Saturday, August 01, 2015 6:25:36 PM
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mulla wrote:
For the argument of averaging down i would wait until the real bear is in town to obtain KQ at its lowest. All the same this share requires a 5-10 year horizon to make worthwhile gains.
But my question is; Who do you reckon are the two major shareholders that the senate committee mentioned have been buying KQ shares in bulk as the price has been tanking??


One of them is @Malkiat Singh and by some extension is @Chuck Norris.

Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Impunity
#49 Posted : Saturday, August 01, 2015 6:46:10 PM
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maka wrote:
littledove wrote:
mulla wrote:
For the argument of averaging down i would wait until the real bear is in town to obtain KQ at its lowest. All the same this share requires a 5-10 year horizon to make worthwhile gains.
But my question is; Who do you reckon are the two major shareholders that the senate committee mentioned have been buying KQ shares in bulk as the price has been tanking??

@mulla i just asked myself the same and what came in my mind when i heard that was dj,what he tweeted during results announcement and the adverts, i will be keen on this one going foward
was it two major shareholders or two individuals?


Two individuals...


Once they bought the first few bunches they cease being individuals but shareholders.
Shame on you
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Bachuma Gate
#50 Posted : Sunday, August 02, 2015 6:29:31 PM
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Budalangi BODA BODA sacco made more money than KQ last fin yr.... Abridged financial report.
DOH
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