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Loan Default
Mblue
#21 Posted : Monday, September 19, 2011 7:49:57 PM
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jano wrote:
the bank can't let you go with it as long as you are alive.rem,as much as it is unsecured you indicated where you stay in ua application form plus some referees,that what they use to trace you.if she had been given 8mths grace period after loosing her job then she is on a hot seat..if not careful she will burn her ...


The referees should also brace themselves to repay the loan for the defaulter.
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Cde Monomotapa
#22 Posted : Monday, September 19, 2011 8:02:20 PM
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Impunity wrote:
She is as good as minced meat.
Let her sell all stuff and deposit money in a close relaz/pal account,then she relocates to Sinai and rent a Kes.250 rumshackle and invite the bank to see her latest financial status!

LoL!
Goliath
#23 Posted : Monday, September 19, 2011 8:08:31 PM
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interesting comments.. how does a referee repay for loan they have not guaranteed...kwani ni chamaa? but at least there are bits and pieces of useful info in the comments...
FRM2011
#24 Posted : Monday, September 19, 2011 8:26:59 PM
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At the risk of exposing what I do for a living, let me set out some things straight here;

1. The loan is unsecured so its one loooong shot before the bank can attach any of her personal belongings. Its possible through the courts but the guiding principle is; NEVER THROW GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD MONEY.

2. A referee is not a guarantor so they can't be asked to pay a cent. They can however expect calls from the bank until ur friend clears the loan. Barclays are known to harass a defaulter's spouse and referees (through persistent calls)to a point where they can't take it anymore.

3.CRB adverse listing is a must. She can forget about borrowing in the next 7 years. Sad thing is that even if she clears the loan the listing stays and no bank or MFI will touch her.

4. Once the loan gets into arrears for +60 days, it will be downgraded and provided for as per CBK prudential guidelines.
Jus Blazin
#25 Posted : Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:13:12 AM
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FRM2011 wrote:
At the risk of exposing what I do for a living, let me set out some things straight here;

1. The loan is unsecured so its one loooong shot before the bank can attach any of her personal belongings. Its possible through the courts but the guiding principle is; NEVER THROW GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD MONEY.

2. A referee is not a guarantor so they can't be asked to pay a cent. They can however expect calls from the bank until ur friend clears the loan. Barclays are known to harass a defaulter's spouse and referees (through persistent calls)to a point where they can't take it anymore.

3.CRB adverse listing is a must. She can forget about borrowing in the next 7 years. Sad thing is that even if she clears the loan the listing stays and no bank or MFI will touch her.

4. Once the loan gets into arrears for +60 days, it will be downgraded and provided for as per CBK prudential guidelines.

What about restructuring? Are banks keen on restructuring of personal loans if one can't pay the full instalment?
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jano
#26 Posted : Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:44:21 AM
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yes, referees can't be asked to pay since they don't sign anywhere,mark you one of the 2 referees shld be a relative and a work mate...if you loose your job it's advisable for you to write to the bank explaining your circumstances and u can negotiate on how to clear the balance,this way you stay out of the CRB blacklisted names
T-Bag
#27 Posted : Friday, July 31, 2015 1:38:01 PM
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How do Barclays keep finding my spouse's new employer every time she changes jobs and is late on loan payments? Ba"claws" actually calls through the official line.
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merick
#28 Posted : Friday, July 31, 2015 9:58:19 PM
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for unsecured debt, auctioneers only come in after the debtor is sued;-
There are three different modes of execution- committal to civil jail, attachment of 1/3 salary or attachment of moveable property-this is where auctioneers come in.

The litigation process is very long and takes at-least an year to get to the point of Auction, the debt also needs to be worth the hustle and the bank has established that unwillingness to pay is the reason for default.

Just tell her to explain to them her situation and request them to stop interest on that basis and give her some time for situation to improve,

On the crb issue the name remains there for 5 years but as long as you've cleared it has no consequence, people default for various reasons like in her case its reasons beyond her control and remember banks are in competition. The last time i checked only stanch-art had an issue with your name being in crb and you had to wait 6 months after clearance to apply for a facility
Speculz
#29 Posted : Saturday, August 01, 2015 10:16:15 AM
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T-Bag wrote:
How do Barclays keep finding my spouse's new employer every time she changes jobs and is late on loan payments? Ba"claws" actually calls through the official line.


Well I guess if you PAYE is payed .. that's a given. individual PIN remains the same and thus a little work can identify the new employer ....
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#30 Posted : Saturday, August 01, 2015 11:26:28 AM
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Speculz wrote:
T-Bag wrote:
How do Barclays keep finding my spouse's new employer every time she changes jobs and is late on loan payments? Ba"claws" actually calls through the official line.


Well I guess if you PAYE is payed .. that's a given. individual PIN remains the same and thus a little work can identify the new employer ....


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#31 Posted : Saturday, August 01, 2015 2:26:52 PM
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merick wrote:
for unsecured debt, auctioneers only come in after the debtor is sued;-
There are three different modes of execution- committal to civil jail, attachment of 1/3 salary or attachment of moveable property-this is where auctioneers come in.

The litigation process is very long and takes at-least an year to get to the point of Auction, the debt also needs to be worth the hustle and the bank has established that unwillingness to pay is the reason for default.

Just tell her to explain to them her situation and request them to stop interest on that basis and give her some time for situation to improve,

On the crb issue the name remains there for 5 years but as long as you've cleared it has no consequence, people default for various reasons like in her case its reasons beyond her control and remember banks are in competition. The last time i checked only stanch-art had an issue with your name being in crb and you had to wait 6 months after clearance to apply for a facility

nice explanation, now if one were to be jailed for that, is the debt written off, ama after being released you still have to pay.
merick
#32 Posted : Saturday, August 01, 2015 3:06:55 PM
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your only jailed if the bank has established you have family that can bail you out, if you can proove to the court that you totally lack capability..the court has no business holding you any longer...the next step is writing down ..but you remain listed with crb
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