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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,505 Location: Uganda
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Bigchick wrote:I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.
I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.
Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her. Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.
I also want to know the exact problem with them. From the website they seem to have some products, what makes them unsustainable/scam ? punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Bigchick wrote:I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.
I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.
Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her. Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.
You may need to read the whole thread "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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murchr wrote:Bigchick wrote:I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.
I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.
Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her. Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.
You may need to read the whole thread I have read the whole thread but it has nothing specific.It has the "If it walks like a duck......"cautious statements but nothing saying this is what is wrong. I have seen some of their investments like Kisima estate,their mobikash and hotel in Embu.That they are not yet making money does not mean they are a scam. NB.I wont invest in them though.I met one of their managers and was not impressed. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,505 Location: Uganda
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Bigchick wrote:murchr wrote:Bigchick wrote:I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.
I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.
Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her. Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.
You may need to read the whole thread I have read the whole thread but it has nothing specific.It has the "If it walks like a duck......"cautious statements but nothing saying this is what is wrong. I have seen some of their investments like Kisima estate,their mobikash and hotel in Embu.That they are not yet making money does not mean they are a scam. NB.I wont invest in them though.I met one of their managers and was not impressed. Me too, can't see anything specific. This is unlike the wazua we normally get links. More of. Muchene than reality. Somebody give us real fact that fep is a scam. Has anyone here actually lost his money through fep and how did it happen, what action did he take? Couldn't we be actually giving them pubicity, ie free advertisement? C&P vin [/b] There is nothing like bad publicity, all publicity is good publicity. The question is what you do with the publicity. If you have depth and substance to put behind the publicity, publicity gives you the stage to showcase youry capabilities. Being sued was probably the best free marketing ever given to the Cytonn brand.[/quote] [/quote] punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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newfarer wrote:Bigchick wrote:murchr wrote:Bigchick wrote:I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.
I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.
Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her. Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.
You may need to read the whole thread I have read the whole thread but it has nothing specific.It has the "If it walks like a duck......"cautious statements but nothing saying this is what is wrong. I have seen some of their investments like Kisima estate,their mobikash and hotel in Embu.That they are not yet making money does not mean they are a scam. NB.I wont invest in them though.I met one of their managers and was not impressed. Me too, can't see anything specific. This is unlike the wazua we normally get links. More of. Muchene than reality. Somebody give us real fact that fep is a scam. Has anyone here actually lost his money through fep and how did it happen, what action did he take? Couldn't we be actually giving them pubicity, ie free advertisement? At the end of every financial year, every legitimate business including a kiosk will show their financial statements - Balance sheet, and income statement. Even when they are making losses due to capital expenditure. Has your aunt received any of these since she joined? Kisima estate. The last time I heard that they were building a housing estate--that was in 2010 or there about...Have they sold any? Have you seen any house sold in Lukenya? What guarantee do you have about Tai housing? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,505 Location: Uganda
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murchr wrote:newfarer wrote:Bigchick wrote:murchr wrote:Bigchick wrote:I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.
I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.
Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her. Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.
You may need to read the whole thread I have read the whole thread but it has nothing specific.It has the "If it walks like a duck......"cautious statements but nothing saying this is what is wrong. I have seen some of their investments like Kisima estate,their mobikash and hotel in Embu.That they are not yet making money does not mean they are a scam. NB.I wont invest in them though.I met one of their managers and was not impressed. Me too, can't see anything specific. This is unlike the wazua we normally get links. More of. Muchene than reality. Somebody give us real fact that fep is a scam. Has anyone here actually lost his money through fep and how did it happen, what action did he take? Couldn't we be actually giving them pubicity, ie free advertisement? At the end of every financial year, every legitimate business including a kiosk will show their financial statements - Balance sheet, and income statement. Even when they are making losses due to capital expenditure. Has your aunt received any of these since she joined? Kisima estate. The last time I heard that they were building a housing estate--that was in 2010 or there about...Have they sold any? Have you seen any house sold in Lukenya? What guarantee do you have about Tai housing? I read that they held an agm last year on this thread , they did it without annual accounts? punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:newfarer wrote:Bigchick wrote:murchr wrote:Bigchick wrote:I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.
I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.
Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her. Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.
You may need to read the whole thread I have read the whole thread but it has nothing specific.It has the "If it walks like a duck......"cautious statements but nothing saying this is what is wrong. I have seen some of their investments like Kisima estate,their mobikash and hotel in Embu.That they are not yet making money does not mean they are a scam. NB.I wont invest in them though.I met one of their managers and was not impressed. Me too, can't see anything specific. This is unlike the wazua we normally get links. More of. Muchene than reality. Somebody give us real fact that fep is a scam. Has anyone here actually lost his money through fep and how did it happen, what action did he take? Couldn't we be actually giving them pubicity, ie free advertisement? At the end of every financial year, every legitimate business including a kiosk will show their financial statements - Balance sheet, and income statement. Even when they are making losses due to capital expenditure. Has your aunt received any of these since she joined? Kisima estate. The last time I heard that they were building a housing estate--that was in 2010 or there about...Have they sold any? Have you seen any house sold in Lukenya? What guarantee do you have about Tai housing? I read that they held an agm last year on this thread , they did it without annual accounts? Yes. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,505 Location: Uganda
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murchr wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:newfarer wrote:Bigchick wrote:murchr wrote:Bigchick wrote:I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.
I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.
Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her. Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.
You may need to read the whole thread I have read the whole thread but it has nothing specific.It has the "If it walks like a duck......"cautious statements but nothing saying this is what is wrong. I have seen some of their investments like Kisima estate,their mobikash and hotel in Embu.That they are not yet making money does not mean they are a scam. NB.I wont invest in them though.I met one of their managers and was not impressed. Me too, can't see anything specific. This is unlike the wazua we normally get links. More of. Muchene than reality. Somebody give us real fact that fep is a scam. Has anyone here actually lost his money through fep and how did it happen, what action did he take? Couldn't we be actually giving them pubicity, ie free advertisement? At the end of every financial year, every legitimate business including a kiosk will show their financial statements - Balance sheet, and income statement. Even when they are making losses due to capital expenditure. Has your aunt received any of these since she joined? Kisima estate. The last time I heard that they were building a housing estate--that was in 2010 or there about...Have they sold any? Have you seen any house sold in Lukenya? What guarantee do you have about Tai housing? I read that they held an agm last year on this thread , they did it without annual accounts? Yes. BGL wrote:I managed to attend the FEP AGM at Hotel Suntec - SAGANA
The AGM business started 3hrs late and the CEO and Chairman read through their entire written report. -Job Kihumba of STANDARD INVESTMENT BANK (SIB) will be responsible for the OTC market which will be operational by August 2014. -A rights issue is on the works and 420million ordinary shares will be offered to investors via a PRIVATE private offer. SIB are the lead transaction advisers and are working on the information memorandum. If the existing shareholders cannot take up all the 420mn shares on offer, other shareholders will be INVITED to participate. To be eligible to participate you will first and foremost be a CHRISTIAN. -All FEP shareholders will get shares in fountain DTM once the license is issued.... there will be another AGM to ratify the same. -FEP shareholders should visit any FEP office 7 days post AGM to verify their details before the share certificates are printed or fill in some shareholder details forms available at the AGM venue -The net profit arising from operations was 22.7mn from 16.9mn last year. However the total comprehensive income reported is 1.17bn as a result of value gain in investment property. -Shareholder funds grew from 1.62bn to 3.71bn this year -What made shareholders happy was the two bonus share for every share held. The annual report and financial statements were provided during the meeting which was an ambush as we did not have time to go through them. Likewise the articles of association which only the management knew about.
I will post the photos of the hotel in due course. Where did Bgl get these figures punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:newfarer wrote:Bigchick wrote:murchr wrote:Bigchick wrote:I went visiting my aunt and in the course of our talks she brought up the topic of FEP. Introducing me to it.
I told her I have heard about it but its said to be a scam.Appperently she has invested about 100k in it.
Someone please tell me exactly what the issues are so that I share with her. Meanwhile she received her certificates yesturday and to her that is proof that all is well.
You may need to read the whole thread I have read the whole thread but it has nothing specific.It has the "If it walks like a duck......"cautious statements but nothing saying this is what is wrong. I have seen some of their investments like Kisima estate,their mobikash and hotel in Embu.That they are not yet making money does not mean they are a scam. NB.I wont invest in them though.I met one of their managers and was not impressed. Me too, can't see anything specific. This is unlike the wazua we normally get links. More of. Muchene than reality. Somebody give us real fact that fep is a scam. Has anyone here actually lost his money through fep and how did it happen, what action did he take? Couldn't we be actually giving them pubicity, ie free advertisement? At the end of every financial year, every legitimate business including a kiosk will show their financial statements - Balance sheet, and income statement. Even when they are making losses due to capital expenditure. Has your aunt received any of these since she joined? Kisima estate. The last time I heard that they were building a housing estate--that was in 2010 or there about...Have they sold any? Have you seen any house sold in Lukenya? What guarantee do you have about Tai housing? I read that they held an agm last year on this thread , they did it without annual accounts? Yes. BGL wrote:I managed to attend the FEP AGM at Hotel Suntec - SAGANA
The AGM business started 3hrs late and the CEO and Chairman read through their entire written report. -Job Kihumba of STANDARD INVESTMENT BANK (SIB) will be responsible for the OTC market which will be operational by August 2014. -A rights issue is on the works and 420million ordinary shares will be offered to investors via a PRIVATE private offer. SIB are the lead transaction advisers and are working on the information memorandum. If the existing shareholders cannot take up all the 420mn shares on offer, other shareholders will be INVITED to participate. To be eligible to participate you will first and foremost be a CHRISTIAN. -All FEP shareholders will get shares in fountain DTM once the license is issued.... there will be another AGM to ratify the same. -FEP shareholders should visit any FEP office 7 days post AGM to verify their details before the share certificates are printed or fill in some shareholder details forms available at the AGM venue -The net profit arising from operations was 22.7mn from 16.9mn last year. However the total comprehensive income reported is 1.17bn as a result of value gain in investment property. -Shareholder funds grew from 1.62bn to 3.71bn this year -What made shareholders happy was the two bonus share for every share held. The annual report and financial statements were provided during the meeting which was an ambush as we did not have time to go through them. Likewise the articles of association which only the management knew about.
I will post the photos of the hotel in due course. Where did Bgl get these figures I guess transparency is key. Where would you get this report apart from him throwing numbers here and there? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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