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CBK MPC Meet!!!
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#461 Posted : Wednesday, July 09, 2014 2:26:05 PM
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Mr.Kaifastus, if GoK is really serious about single digit yields, it should first start by not accepting high bids on the 91 day paper,9% for now should be the ceiling.
Why should i lend to wanjiku at single digits then struggle following up with her for repayments and stuff like that if i can lend risk free to Treasury at 11.5%?
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kaifastus
#462 Posted : Wednesday, July 09, 2014 4:05:19 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Mr.Kaifastus, if GoK is really serious about single digit yields, it should first start by not accepting high bids on the 91 day paper,9% for now should be the ceiling.
Why should i lend to wanjiku at single digits then struggle following up with her for repayments and stuff like that if i can lend risk free to Treasury at 11.5%?

Am not talking abt single digit interest rates. At least not now,perhaps in future, if economic fundamentals improve and the Tbills plummet to around 4-5%,a single digit might be possible. bcoz then,i reckon the CBRR could lie within the same percentage point neighborhood.
The Gok accepts expensive money bcoz its thirsty for funds.we all hope the eurobond will correct this in the short term. in the long term,i hope that KRA improves its targets,oil funds starts to flow, business environment improves,county structures strengthened who knows how high we shall fly.forget the present insecurity,international investors WILL not ignore Kenya..
mnandii
#463 Posted : Wednesday, July 09, 2014 5:04:29 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Reference rate = waste of time!

How can you have a rate that manages loans, yet doesn't managed deposits?

Another exercise in folly.

The market should be let to determine rates.
People thought the price of kerosene, petrol, diesel would come down once a body was set up to set the prices. They are still waiting.
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
mnandii
#464 Posted : Wednesday, July 09, 2014 5:10:48 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
holycow wrote:
Ok, i'm not into banking. So does it mean Bank profits will drop, stagnate or rise?




Increased competition? We have been through this road before. Remember the order some years back that banks should display the loans rates prominently in their branches as well advertise them in newspaper? What became of that? Why are we still talking about stimulating competition when a strategy to that end has already been tried before?
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
Mart_Consult
#465 Posted : Wednesday, July 09, 2014 6:21:18 PM
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Ideally, banks should be going for a mid-margin, high volume lending model to make good use of the KBRR+ k. However as it stands TODAY mortgages and fixed rate loans will be unaffected meaning only loans with flexible pricing terms MAY benefit. Oh, if only wishes were horses. Then again...
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mwekez@ji
#466 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 11:21:38 AM
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91 Day T/Bill rate down to 9.727% from 11.408% Applause

https://centralbank.go.ke/images...20dated%2014.07.2014.pdf
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#467 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 11:38:28 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
91 Day T/Bill rate down to 9.727% from 11.408% Applause

https://centralbank.go.ke/images...20dated%2014.07.2014.pdf

Good news the fall by 14.67% but the volatility is worrying!
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Angelica _ann
#468 Posted : Friday, July 11, 2014 12:03:06 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
91 Day T/Bill rate down to 9.727% from 11.408% Applause

https://centralbank.go.ke/images...20dated%2014.07.2014.pdf

Good news the fall by 14.67% but the volatility is worrying!

Hope it keeps falling. Good job this far! smile
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holycow
#469 Posted : Wednesday, September 03, 2014 5:52:31 PM
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No change on CBR. Waiting to see which directions T-bills will head.
Othelo
#470 Posted : Tuesday, July 07, 2015 4:59:26 PM
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What has our new CBK Governor said?
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
The optimist
#471 Posted : Tuesday, July 07, 2015 6:01:09 PM
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Othelo wrote:
What has our new CBK Governor said?


maka
#472 Posted : Tuesday, July 07, 2015 7:06:34 PM
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The optimist wrote:
Othelo wrote:
What has our new CBK Governor said?




Interesting times ahead...
possunt quia posse videntur
mwekez@ji
#473 Posted : Tuesday, July 07, 2015 8:10:58 PM
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maka wrote:
The optimist wrote:
Othelo wrote:
What has our new CBK Governor said?




Interesting times ahead...


A bold monetary tightening move
Othelo
#474 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2015 8:56:12 AM
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I hope the listed banks/financial institutions will take advantage of the times ahead to clean their NPL books and blame it on the economy and start refreshed in the next phase.
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
Mainat
#475 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2015 9:18:42 AM
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You surely know a lot about banking
Othelo wrote:
I hope the listed banks/financial institutions will take advantage of the times ahead to clean their NPL books and blame it on the economy and start refreshed in the next phase.

Sehemu ndio nyumba
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#476 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2015 10:34:52 AM
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Really painful for borrowers. But savers are a happy lot, well if you can competitively bid in those 91day T/Bill auctions. i remember one getting 23% in Dec 2011Drool
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nashx
#477 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2015 11:15:52 AM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Really painful for borrowers. But savers are a happy lot, well if you can competitively bid in those 91day T/Bill auctions. i remember one getting 23% in Dec 2011Drool


Hmmmh...which is better investing directly in T Bills or via money market fund....Pan Africa Pesa + currently offering 12.79%...who has dealt with them? Recommendations?
Offering my personal finance knowledge for free
hisah
#478 Posted : Thursday, July 09, 2015 4:13:39 AM
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Mainat wrote:
You surely know a lot about banking
Othelo wrote:
I hope the listed banks/financial institutions will take advantage of the times ahead to clean their NPL books and blame it on the economy and start refreshed in the next phase.


Let the high stakes games begin. Weak banks will be swallowed by the sharks. Consolidation expected.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
moneydust
#479 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2015 6:26:50 PM
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holycow
#480 Posted : Monday, May 23, 2016 5:09:01 PM
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Quote:
The Committee noted that overall inflation is expected to decline and remain within the
Government target range in the short-term. Therefore, it concluded that there was policy
space for an easing of monetary policy while continuing to anchor inflation expectations.
The MPC therefore decided to lower the CBR by 100 basis points to 10.5 percent. The
CBK will continue to monitor developments in the economy, and will use instruments at
its disposal to maintain overall price and financial sector stability.


https://www.centralbank.go.ke/im...eleases/MPCMay232016.pdf
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