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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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i feel vindicated here. To be honest i felt bad when i tore on KQ on this post but seriously KQ should do something about those "operational reasons" that delay their flights or cause cancellations. The chaos involved especially if you are connecting flights is no joke....and the pain of missing appointments especially family related ones like your child graduation/birtday etc is even worse Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Printed a new yr low today at 5.85. Actually 12yr low territory. Only major news like a buyout can stall the strong bear here. Will KQ break the all time low at 4.75 last seen on Nov 2002? Any investor that got in back in Sept 2006 has already written off this stock. A massive 95.2% haircut from 125 to 6/- (today's close excluding the massive 2012 rights issue). Lehman bros $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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@ Obiero please say something to reassure your followers. Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,487 Location: nairobi
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kaka2za wrote:@ Obiero please say something to reassure your followers. The current price is based on bad press and bad press alone! Every one knows we are expecting a huge loss announcement on 25.06.15. So bad results cannot be the reason why the share has collapsed.. I was about to buy some yesterday but will now wait to see how much lower this plane can fly HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:kaka2za wrote:@ Obiero please say something to reassure your followers. The current price is based on bad press and bad press alone! Every one knows we are expecting a huge loss announcement on 25.06.15. So bad results cannot be the reason why the share has collapsed.. I was about to buy some yesterday but will now wait to see how much lower this plane can fly Yaani @obiero I'm being massacred in Home Afrika and you are being massacred by KQ... What I always try to unsderstand is how you put more than half your NSE portfolio in this monkey. A monkey for speculation should never exceed 10% of your portfolio. But see you after the bankruptcy bailout... Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,487 Location: nairobi
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guru267 wrote:obiero wrote:kaka2za wrote:@ Obiero please say something to reassure your followers. The current price is based on bad press and bad press alone! Every one knows we are expecting a huge loss announcement on 25.06.15. So bad results cannot be the reason why the share has collapsed.. I was about to buy some yesterday but will now wait to see how much lower this plane can fly Yaani @obiero I'm being massacred in Home Afrika and you are being massacred by KQ... What I always try to unsderstand is how you put more than half your NSE portfolio in this monkey. A monkey for speculation should never exceed 10% of your portfolio. But see you after the bankruptcy bailout... @sweetheart hapa nimepatikana uchi kabisa.. never imagined we would see KES 7.50 let alone KES 5.80! but iv seen stocks dip and I have also seen stocks rise.. 25.06.15 beckons.. tuombeane!! HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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obiero wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:obiero wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:I once told Obiero it will hit 5/- can't recall post #.....Its coming. kunyolewa nayo.. 6.40! kweli leo kumenuka Pole mblatha...i don't enjoy friends being shafted. Anyway you similar to a friend i warned not marry a certain campasarian having given him evidence n future likelyhood....He was dumped a broke bugger repaying a topped up loan for 6 years. The bar business..she brought kina swenani to bend over her and enjoy on the guys bill. f*** lifes lessons. Asante bro.. Wish I had more money though, ningalinunua! It has come to pass! So you need more money to flush in toilet? Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964
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Glut. Decoupling of distillates? Quote:While gasoline refining margins remain near three-year highs and surprising diesel demand growth underpinned its margins, the profitability of European jet fuel has declined as thousands of tonnes in surplus cargoes land from new refineries in the Middle East. Some analysts and traders say jet fuel's fate could foretell margins for other oil products, particularly diesel.
Should demand for refined products fall due to emerging oversupply, analysts have said that would spill back into the crude market and pull down prices there as well, as refineries slash orders and reduce output. http://www.theedgemarket...d-0#.VXqAVXpgOgk.twitter
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,487 Location: nairobi
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Boris Boyka wrote:obiero wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:obiero wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:I once told Obiero it will hit 5/- can't recall post #.....Its coming. kunyolewa nayo.. 6.40! kweli leo kumenuka Pole mblatha...i don't enjoy friends being shafted. Anyway you similar to a friend i warned not marry a certain campasarian having given him evidence n future likelyhood....He was dumped a broke bugger repaying a topped up loan for 6 years. The bar business..she brought kina swenani to bend over her and enjoy on the guys bill. f*** lifes lessons. Asante bro.. Wish I had more money though, ningalinunua! It has come to pass! So you need more money to flush in toilet? Hehe.. Stocks are not bonds. Volatility occurs. KCB was at KES 16 about 18months ago, Centum traded at KES 11 about the same time back while COOP was at KES 6.. Indeed, the bottom of KQ eluded me, but its still a share worth holding for the longterm HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964
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maka wrote:Afroblk wrote:Lufthansa returns to Nairobi after 18-year absence. A return ticket will cost EUR649 (about Sh71,350). KQ needs to be competitive in this market. http://www.businessdaily.../-/10s2huj/-/index.html
Regardless of this, KQ is a must buy and hold. At today's trading price of KES 6.30 this is a long term look. This is not a bus for the weak. Currently watching Business Traveler,Richard Quest talking about South West Airlines and why they are profitable...Interesting. Leveraging SkyTeam and JKIA as a Hub... China Southern Airlines Opens Its Doors In Kampala Tanzania: Airline Starts Direct Flights to China Via Nairobi, Kenya
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Usijali Obiero, ata American Airlines went into bankruptcy and emerged from the mud. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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Im sorry to say this, but I firm consistently making billions of shilling losses doesn't deserve to be even trading. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,487 Location: nairobi
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Aguytrying wrote:Im sorry to say this, but I firm consistently making billions of shilling losses doesn't deserve to be even trading. Profits (EBT) (KSh m) From 2003 to 2014 descending: 547 2,075 5,520 6,960 5,975 6,526 −5,664 2,671 5,002 2,146 −10,826 −4,861 Kindly point out the consistency in loss making for Kenya Airways.. One must remember that even KCB was once loss making, in the year 2003-2004 HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/14/2011 Posts: 661
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obiero wrote:Aguytrying wrote:Im sorry to say this, but I firm consistently making billions of shilling losses doesn't deserve to be even trading. Profits (EBT) (KSh m) From 2003 to 2014 descending: 547 2,075 5,520 6,960 5,975 6,526 −5,664 2,671 5,002 2,146 −10,826 −4,861 Kindly point out the consistency in loss making for Kenya Airways.. One must remember that even KCB was once loss making, in the year 2003-2004 Hii sasa ni hujuma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR9of5jqhVQ
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,487 Location: nairobi
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KES 6.60 printed. tomorrow we should see KES 6.90.. these are dangerous times in terms of KQ stock trade.. only the brave are advised to do something, others must watch and wait for 25.06.15 HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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obiero wrote:Aguytrying wrote:Im sorry to say this, but I firm consistently making billions of shilling losses doesn't deserve to be even trading. Profits (EBT) (KSh m) From 2003 to 2014 descending: 547 2,075 5,520 6,960 5,975 6,526 −5,664 2,671 5,002 2,146 −10,826 −4,861 Kindly point out the consistency in loss making for Kenya Airways.. One must remember that even KCB was once loss making, in the year 2003-2004 You cannot see consistency show us any cent left as profit in the last 6year cumulative punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,487 Location: nairobi
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newfarer wrote:obiero wrote:Aguytrying wrote:Im sorry to say this, but I firm consistently making billions of shilling losses doesn't deserve to be even trading. Profits (EBT) (KSh m) From 2003 to 2014 descending: 547 2,075 5,520 6,960 5,975 6,526 −5,664 2,671 5,002 2,146 −10,826 −4,861 Kindly point out the consistency in loss making for Kenya Airways.. One must remember that even KCB was once loss making, in the year 2003-2004 You cannot see consistency show us any cent left as profit in the last 6year cumulative Was KQ established in 2009? The firm is old and beautiful.. Its just experiencing a rough patch. Respect your elders :) HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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obiero wrote:newfarer wrote:obiero wrote:Aguytrying wrote:Im sorry to say this, but I firm consistently making billions of shilling losses doesn't deserve to be even trading. Profits (EBT) (KSh m) From 2003 to 2014 descending: 547 2,075 5,520 6,960 5,975 6,526 −5,664 2,671 5,002 2,146 −10,826 −4,861 Kindly point out the consistency in loss making for Kenya Airways.. One must remember that even KCB was once loss making, in the year 2003-2004 You cannot see consistency show us any cent left as profit in the last 6year cumulative Was KQ established in 2009? The firm is old and beautiful.. Its just experiencing a rough patch. Respect your elders :) Much respects elder, enjoy your deadhorse ride. punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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newfarer wrote:obiero wrote:newfarer wrote:obiero wrote:Aguytrying wrote:Im sorry to say this, but I firm consistently making billions of shilling losses doesn't deserve to be even trading. Profits (EBT) (KSh m) From 2003 to 2014 descending: 547 2,075 5,520 6,960 5,975 6,526 −5,664 2,671 5,002 2,146 −10,826 −4,861 Kindly point out the consistency in loss making for Kenya Airways.. One must remember that even KCB was once loss making, in the year 2003-2004 You cannot see consistency show us any cent left as profit in the last 6year cumulative Was KQ established in 2009? The firm is old and beautiful.. Its just experiencing a rough patch. Respect your elders :) Much respects elder, enjoy your deadhorse ride. @Obiero. If you add this years loss. That's 3 years in row. Question. Will KQ make a profit in fy 2015? Are you sure??? The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,487 Location: nairobi
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Aguytrying wrote:newfarer wrote:obiero wrote:newfarer wrote:obiero wrote:Aguytrying wrote:Im sorry to say this, but I firm consistently making billions of shilling losses doesn't deserve to be even trading. Profits (EBT) (KSh m) From 2003 to 2014 descending: 547 2,075 5,520 6,960 5,975 6,526 −5,664 2,671 5,002 2,146 −10,826 −4,861 Kindly point out the consistency in loss making for Kenya Airways.. One must remember that even KCB was once loss making, in the year 2003-2004 You cannot see consistency show us any cent left as profit in the last 6year cumulative Was KQ established in 2009? The firm is old and beautiful.. Its just experiencing a rough patch. Respect your elders :) Much respects elder, enjoy your deadhorse ride. @Obiero. If you add this years loss. That's 3 years in row. Question. Will KQ make a profit in fy 2015? Are you sure??? KQ must make a profit in 2015. Its not a matter of choice, and Ngunze & Co are well aware.. Therein lies the gamble. Im not sure, but highly optimistic HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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