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Uchumi HY 2015 results - firmly in loss territory
Cde Monomotapa
#41 Posted : Saturday, June 13, 2015 1:45:36 PM
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madebe wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
madebe wrote:
madebe wrote:
did they pay the dividend...i have been waiting na sionikwa bank......

In today DN page6 uchumi purport to have paid dividends from 20/4/15 how come I've not seen it via EFT? Can someone who has received it hola here or we get the CMA contacts for follow up

Check SLP


Have you received cde? I was in the SLP jana but did not see anything...and why not pay as EFT?


Last month. Was waiting for EFT too.
Mainat
#42 Posted : Sunday, June 14, 2015 6:33:57 AM
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Story in the Dn is informative. I think Ciano is another Titus who has massively overstayed and lacks ideas. Malls take some blame, but so does a lack of strategy
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enyands
#43 Posted : Sunday, June 14, 2015 6:59:19 AM
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In western world , when a CEO leaves a company , they want to leave a good legacy. They fight hard to make sure they leave a solid company.eg Tom Cook apple , bill Gates amongst others.what puzzles me Michael Joseph ( mzungu ) of safaricom in African soil also did the same!!!! But the same African soil our own dark skinned CEOs in Kenya specifically makes sure they leave a company in total ruins where it can't be fixed ... Evans K of sukari Co , titus N of the pride of Africa , DJ CK and this Cianno guy of uchumi supermarkets ,, njoroge wa stima.My big question is , is it the skin color that dictates the legacy we leave behind where white color - leave a good legacy , dark color - chafua beyond repair ??
Aguytrying
#44 Posted : Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:48:19 AM
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enyands wrote:
In western world , when a CEO leaves a company , they want to leave a good legacy. They fight hard to make sure they leave a solid company.eg Tom Cook apple , bill Gates amongst others.what puzzles me Michael Joseph ( mzungu ) of safaricom in African soil also did the same!!!! But the same African soil our own dark skinned CEOs in Kenya specifically makes sure they leave a company in total ruins where it can't be fixed ... Evans K of sukari Co , titus N of the pride of Africa , DJ CK and this Cianno guy of uchumi supermarkets ,, njoroge wa stima.My big question is , is it the skin color that dictates the legacy we leave behind where white color - leave a good legacy , dark color - chafua beyond repair ??


The problem is not skin colour. corruption is left to thrive freely in all those institutions you've mentioned, because of the laxity of the the major shareholder/controlling shareholder.
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enyands
#45 Posted : Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:57:42 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
enyands wrote:
In western world , when a CEO leaves a company , they want to leave a good legacy. They fight hard to make sure they leave a solid company.eg Tom Cook apple , bill Gates amongst others.what puzzles me Michael Joseph ( mzungu ) of safaricom in African soil also did the same!!!! But the same African soil our own dark skinned CEOs in Kenya specifically makes sure they leave a company in total ruins where it can't be fixed ... Evans K of sukari Co , titus N of the pride of Africa , DJ CK and this Cianno guy of uchumi supermarkets ,, njoroge wa stima.My big question is , is it the skin color that dictates the legacy we leave behind where white color - leave a good legacy , dark color - chafua beyond repair ??


The problem is not skin colour. corruption is left to thrive freely in all those institutions you've mentioned, because of the laxity of the the major shareholder/controlling shareholder.


I agree with you but do you kknow corruption in western world is same as Kenya but here is the difference , there they do it legally through terms they call "lobbying " or "kickbacks " but as much as they get this kickbacks they make sure they leave a legacy that their great kids will be proud of .As Africans do we ever care to see how our grand children will live when we gone kama we keep destroying companies like mumias , kq, kplc which would hire them, t .... well I don't think so . I still insist skin color plays at least 25% of legacy we leave behind ...ooh I forgot to add former president of Kenya of 25 yrs to my list of African CEOs who leave a legacy of ruins
Aguytrying
#46 Posted : Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:45:43 PM
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enyands wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
enyands wrote:
In western world , when a CEO leaves a company , they want to leave a good legacy. They fight hard to make sure they leave a solid company.eg Tom Cook apple , bill Gates amongst others.what puzzles me Michael Joseph ( mzungu ) of safaricom in African soil also did the same!!!! But the same African soil our own dark skinned CEOs in Kenya specifically makes sure they leave a company in total ruins where it can't be fixed ... Evans K of sukari Co , titus N of the pride of Africa , DJ CK and this Cianno guy of uchumi supermarkets ,, njoroge wa stima.My big question is , is it the skin color that dictates the legacy we leave behind where white color - leave a good legacy , dark color - chafua beyond repair ??


The problem is not skin colour. corruption is left to thrive freely in all those institutions you've mentioned, because of the laxity of the the major shareholder/controlling shareholder.


I agree with you but do you kknow corruption in western world is same as Kenya but here is the difference , there they do it legally through terms they call "lobbying " or "kickbacks " but as much as they get this kickbacks they make sure they leave a legacy that their great kids will be proud of .As Africans do we ever care to see how our grand children will live when we gone kama we keep destroying companies like mumias , kq, kplc which would hire them, t .... well I don't think so . I still insist skin color plays at least 25% of legacy we leave behind ...ooh I forgot to add former president of Kenya of 25 yrs to my list of African CEOs who leave a legacy of ruins


you have a point on the legacy especially when you look at it from a more national view. On companies, there are many other companies led by kenyans that are doing so well. eg equity bank. which brings me back to the issue of gov control and corruption which is what ails those firms u mentioned
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Ericsson
#47 Posted : Monday, June 15, 2015 11:59:48 AM
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Uchumi Board terminates contract of CEO Jonathan Ciano and CFO Chadwick Okumu over gross misconduct and negligence
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#48 Posted : Monday, June 15, 2015 12:10:02 PM
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That was swift, I doubt it makes life any easier for the troubled retailer
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mkonomtupu
#49 Posted : Monday, June 15, 2015 12:11:54 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Uchumi Board terminates contract of CEO Jonathan Ciano and CFO Chadwick Okumu over gross misconduct and negligence


What took them so longApplause Applause Applause

I ended my trade on this counter with a tidy profit. One my best trading counters but with all the empty shelves, low staff morale and shrinkage guess i'm done with this one
kiash
#50 Posted : Monday, June 15, 2015 12:19:42 PM
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enyands wrote:
In western world , when a CEO leaves a company , they want to leave a good legacy. They fight hard to make sure they leave a solid company.eg Tom Cook apple , bill Gates amongst others.what puzzles me Michael Joseph ( mzungu ) of safaricom in African soil also did the same!!!! But the same African soil our own dark skinned CEOs in Kenya specifically makes sure they leave a company in total ruins where it can't be fixed ... Evans K of sukari Co , titus N of the pride of Africa , DJ CK and this Cianno guy of uchumi supermarkets ,, njoroge wa stima.My big question is , is it the skin color that dictates the legacy we leave behind where white color - leave a good legacy , dark color - chafua beyond repair ??


There are many companies out here that are led by the white skinned people and they even wind up so i do not hink management and legacy is because of skin color.Look at guys like Martin Oduor of KCB, he left a very good Co.Such guys should be celebrated.But i thought Ciano was a hero some years ago , he revived Uchumi.Read somewhere bibi yake ndio supplier wa fruits Uchumi and the shelves are never dry d'oh!
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