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Is Jacob Zuma a bigot?
muganda
#1 Posted : Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:05:54 PM
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British Daily Mail calls Zuma “sex-obsessed bigot with four wives and 35 children. So why is Britain fawning over this vile buffoon?”

http://www.dailymail.co....ritain-fawning-him.html

A certain journalist Stephen Robinson, in an obvious attempt to grab headlines, shows no respect for South African head of state!

Surely, what has this Stephen Robinson achieved, except writing about people much greater than him, from behind a desk? He's not even a renowned writer... Neocolonialism, Pumbavu!

McReggae
#2 Posted : Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:41:12 PM
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His people love and adore him!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Magigi
#3 Posted : Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:47:12 PM
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...well, in as much as I am of the opinion that the west should not tell us how many wives we should have and how many times we should sleep with them every month, I have no respect for this Zuma guy. He is a disgrace to the human race... A man who sleeps with an HIV lady and says that he captured a quick shower after the act to prevent infection is no better than a dog that loses its senses during the mating season...
Magigi
#4 Posted : Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:52:36 PM
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McReggae
...even when he screws their daughters and steals their money. These must be funny people. and indeed they are. look at the way they behave to foreigners!!!
muganda
#5 Posted : Wednesday, March 03, 2010 1:56:54 PM
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@Magigi, harsh words. Is it presumptive of me to assume you hold up Tiger Woods and perhaps even Thabo Mbeki to higher stature as men?
bwenyenye
#6 Posted : Thursday, March 04, 2010 11:16:12 AM
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Yet again, the cultures are fighting. The African culuture accepts polygamy as it is prctical and feasible in Africa. It is absurd for a person from the western culture to judge us. There is no culture that is better or more advanced than another.

In Africa, the set up is more about social responsibility than about financial gain. Women get married to acquire status and security and not financial gain. The culture allowed them to have their economic activity and so even if you married 5, they only needed your name and probably a piece of land or some goats to tend. By name, I mean a family to grow in and live in. There is therefore nothing wrong in polygamy in this seting.

In Europe, the setting is very different with women getting married for the feelings and whetever else. They then want to be in control of their men and not want anyone else there. In such cases, since the ladies have learnt to shoot without missing, the men have learnt to fly without perching. They have what they call serial monogamy.

However, let every man choose what he wants and live openly about it. Do not condemn another man or woman nor judge them by your own standards. They too have aright to be here!
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B.Timer
#7 Posted : Thursday, March 04, 2010 11:34:05 AM
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@Bwenyenye

I am with you here.

However you will note too that, Africa's urbanised dwellers have enherited the Western culture almost wholesale.
That is the basis upon which the Western world judges us - after all we claim to espouse their ideals of 'civility'.

Arent for instance, Narobi ladies 'sharp shooters' too?

You might want to agree that the 'serial monogamy' bug is already buzzing around very loudly - albeit to a lesser extend amongst the menfolk.
Dunia ni msongamano..
Magigi
#8 Posted : Thursday, March 04, 2010 11:38:06 AM
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Muganda
...Not really. Tiger woods had the courtesy of doing it in secret albeit a sin. But a man who behaves like a dog is just a dog...and that is what Zuma is, and his neigbour Mswati...

Some years back, while working in a war torn country (ours was haven by then!) I asked Nurse trainees to define who a Community Health Worker is. And one of the wrote that he 'is a SPERM walking about in the Village'. And when I checked the records of our CHWs, I found out that they had more than 5 wives and several children. I marked that answer correct!

Jacob Zuma and King Mswati are sperms walking about in the country!!!
Nandwa
#9 Posted : Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:37:56 PM
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Matters are getting mixed up and contradictory.

What is a lesser 'evil' doing things openly with a clear conscience or doing it in hidding while masquerading in public and your spouse as a clean guy.
This is waht happens in the west.
Remember Bill Clinton and recently the Governor in South Carolina or such like place.
Once caught you lose not only face but money/job too.

Polygamous unions where all parties are in agreement are just fine.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
McReggae
#10 Posted : Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:59:39 PM
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Most of these new Zuma women seem to be in the 30's, it's not like the man walks around oogling at teenagers!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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#11 Posted : Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:34:11 PM
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@McReggae since we are talking about it I can go ahead and say: hapo umedinya point! Those are 30+ yr old mamas, & fully consenting adults at that! If they don't mind being taken as the Nth wife, if its of no concern to their parents as well that they are wife no whatever - of what concern is it to others? Let it and him be!
But let him not deceive us that post-coitus showers have medicinal benefits (which only he seems privy to anyway) nah.
gathinga
#12 Posted : Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:43:54 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
Applause hapo umedinya point!

digitek1
#13 Posted : Friday, March 05, 2010 12:25:05 PM
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The british are barbarians
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muganda
#14 Posted : Saturday, March 06, 2010 9:06:49 PM
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@Magigi, I agree with @Nandwa. Not sure whether Tiger really falls in the same bracket as Zuma or Mswati, hence why he's going for counselling.


But comparison of Zuma to Mbeki is even more interesting...
On one hand a man born into poverty, father died in his infancy and received no formal education. A popuplist who wears many faults on his sleeve.

On the other hand the son of ANC intellectuals, middle class upbringing with Masters from University of Sussex. Aloof poet, international statesman with a strong streak of paranoia.


Early to tell what will be Zuma's legacy, but life has taught me to look past the obvious. I'd not be surprised if when the chips are down the more socially acceptable Mbeki falls short of Zuma. And thus far, Mbeki's treatment of his old compadre Zuma, showed a lesser man.
sparkly
#15 Posted : Monday, March 08, 2010 5:09:36 AM
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Let every man be judged against the laws and moral standards of his people his people. Is it legal in south africa to marry 5 wives? Yes. Is it moral for a zulu man to have 5 wives? Yes. Is it legal for a british man to marry 5 wives? No. If its illegal then the question of morality is irrelevant. This Robinson character should just accept that he cannot go home to a different 'dish' everyday while another man can. Let him kula his 'sukuma' everyday and shut up.
Life is short. Live passionately.
PONDI
#16 Posted : Saturday, June 05, 2010 7:28:08 PM
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salaalaaa seems there is trouble in paradise at the zuma household. he has not been dilligently popping those viagra pills, and the second wife felt 'under serviced', so she decided to get herself a 'shamba boy' to 'fieka fieka and pandilia' her shamba. now the lucky body guard has allegedly commited suicide after impregnating her.
vinii
#17 Posted : Sunday, June 06, 2010 6:28:13 PM
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'shamba boy' to 'fieka fieka and pandilia' heheheheheheheh . @ Pondi, did you mean 'pandilia' or 'palilia'???? I suppose both words can apply in the context of the issue at hand !!! You Palilia then pandilia?? @ Pondi, tafadhali fafanua!!
If you are an eagle don't hang around with chickens; chickens don't fly....
Magigi
#18 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2010 7:31:25 AM
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...the man collects them, puts them in the boma and goes to feed outside!!! Serves him right.

...and now that Kibaki declared in public that Wambui is not his wife, I hope her guards are not sleeping on the job. I do hope they are having a ball...
kivairu
#19 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2010 12:38:58 PM
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Its poetic justice for Zuma, a bigot whose conscience could not be pricked by height of his immorality, for a sucker who could, at will sleep around with family friends and have no remorse and for a "dick-head" who saw no shit in sleeping around with a friend's daughter...justice is finally catching up with the old man.Much as no culture is superior to the other and the guy being a staunch zulu traditionalist, i think zuma just goes over board, and feels sweet about it , up untill that time the boardguard realised he could call zuma's bluff and shug his wife.

Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value. –Albert Einstein.
PONDI
#20 Posted : Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:24:56 AM
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he has forgiven her.... maybe he should get her female bodyguards or eunachs...and throw in a dildo or two...and plenty of KY
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