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Doctors and nurses to become slaves of GoK
murchr
#11 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 8:31:54 PM
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quicksand wrote:
murchr wrote:
FundamentAli wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:
Happens all the time - its called bonding.
Even private sector I have seen a co. take staff for an expensive training, and then bonding that staff for a couple of yrs (3 in this case) to ensure that the co. benefits most from the expertise it acquired from its investment in the staff.
In military you are required to serve for a minimum of 9 years (i stand to be coLLected on the yrs) before you can leave.

We can debate the length of the bonding but the concept is already entrenched.

What bonding? We pay HELB loans and many students who are self sponsored end up working for government.

In Military you are guaranteed 9 years of work, after that, they can chase you at their own will but with benefits of course.


Are you a doctor? Try finding out how much goes into training a doctor, then compare what they pay at the unis and MTC. Those who dont want to be bonded, they can opt out but pay the full cost. This should have been done in 1963


Not all things are done for ROI. For instance, most of North Eastern province is a barren wasteland, but still we should like the Government to take piped water, paved roads, electricity and rail to those people even if little produce (and taxes) comes out of there to add to the GNP.



That "barren wasteland" has so much potential that you who thinks in-terms of farming and rainfall cannot see. That aside...Imagine if you are running a commercial enterprise - HOTEL - then you take afew guys from your village to utalii for training - once the course is done wouldn't you want them to practice what they have learnt at your hotel? Or you'd be happy if someone else offered them 1000 more? Hio si ni charity. Truth is some of these countries out there dont invest in training and education of personnel they just wait for you to train, then they poach even that mushahara given is not so much.
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jaggernaut
#12 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 8:37:50 PM
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quicksand wrote:
This will have the direct effect of making the bright, young ones venture into non-medical fields, making what is already an acute problem worse.
Is Kipchumba Murkomen a doctor, nurse or public-health or health-management professional? He should shut up


If govt through JAB gives you an offer for a gov't subsidized medical degree, and you opt to take it, then you should serve your sponsor (govt) for the period it deems fit.
harrydre
#13 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 9:33:16 PM
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murchr wrote:
quicksand wrote:
murchr wrote:
FundamentAli wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:
Happens all the time - its called bonding.
Even private sector I have seen a co. take staff for an expensive training, and then bonding that staff for a couple of yrs (3 in this case) to ensure that the co. benefits most from the expertise it acquired from its investment in the staff.
In military you are required to serve for a minimum of 9 years (i stand to be coLLected on the yrs) before you can leave.

We can debate the length of the bonding but the concept is already entrenched.

What bonding? We pay HELB loans and many students who are self sponsored end up working for government.

In Military you are guaranteed 9 years of work, after that, they can chase you at their own will but with benefits of course.


Are you a doctor? Try finding out how much goes into training a doctor, then compare what they pay at the unis and MTC. Those who dont want to be bonded, they can opt out but pay the full cost. This should have been done in 1963


Not all things are done for ROI. For instance, most of North Eastern province is a barren wasteland, but still we should like the Government to take piped water, paved roads, electricity and rail to those people even if little produce (and taxes) comes out of there to add to the GNP.



That "barren wasteland" has so much potential that you who thinks in-terms of farming and rainfall cannot see. That aside...Imagine if you are running a commercial enterprise - HOTEL - then you take afew guys from your village to utalii for training - once the course is done wouldn't you want them to practice what they have learnt at your hotel? Or you'd be happy if someone else offered them 1000 more? Hio si ni charity. Truth is some of these countries out there dont invest in training and education of personnel they just wait for you to train, then they poach even that mushahara given is not so much.


I support this 100%. Happens all the time in private sector. Next thing they need is performance evaluation.
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Rankaz13
#14 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:52:52 PM
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Akin to bolting the stable after the horse has bolted. In the current set-up, medics with postgraduate training (masters and above) are bonded, usually for three years after training. Those with a first (undergraduate) degree aren't bonded and I believe these are the ones targeted by the proposed policy. Well, there certainly will be a price to be paid by society for letting politics and politicians run our healthcare in the manner they deem fit.
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