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Doctors and nurses to become slaves of GoK
FundamentAli
#1 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:17:51 PM
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According to Senator Murkomen, doctor's and nurses will have no freedom to leave government for 10 years after signing contract.

http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news...ml/-/wjbj6f/-/index.html

Which other group has such condition? We have a democracy with leaders with undemocratic tendancies.
murchr
#2 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:53:32 PM
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FundamentAli wrote:
According to Senator Murkomen, doctor's and nurses will have no freedom to leave government for 10 years after signing contract.

http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news...ml/-/wjbj6f/-/index.html

Which other group has such condition? We have a democracy with leaders with undemocratic tendancies.


If not so, their training should not be subsidized.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Intelligentsia
#3 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:57:14 PM
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Happens all the time - its called bonding.
Even private sector I have seen a co. take staff for an expensive training, and then bonding that staff for a couple of yrs (3 in this case) to ensure that the co. benefits most from the expertise it acquired from its investment in the staff.
In military you are required to serve for a minimum of 9 years (i stand to be coLLected on the yrs) before you can leave.

We can debate the length of the bonding but the concept is already entrenched.
Njung'e
#4 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 5:00:38 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
Happens all the time - its called bonding.
Even private sector I have seen a co. take staff for an expensive training, and then bonding that staff for a couple of yrs (3 in this case) to ensure that the co. benefits most from the expertise it acquired from its investment in the staff.
In military you are required to serve for a minimum of 9 years (i stand to be coLLected on the yrs) before you can leave.

We can debate the length of the bonding but the concept is already entrenched.


You are so right. Many organizations in the private sector can't take you for a specialized expensive course and then let you leave the day after you finish.NOPE!
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Much Know
#5 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 5:04:36 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:
Happens all the time - its called bonding.
Even private sector I have seen a co. take staff for an expensive training, and then bonding that staff for a couple of yrs (3 in this case) to ensure that the co. benefits most from the expertise it acquired from its investment in the staff.
In military you are required to serve for a minimum of 9 years (i stand to be coLLected on the yrs) before you can leave.

We can debate the length of the bonding but the concept is already entrenched.


You are so right. Many organizations in the private sector can't take you for a specialized expensive course and then let you leave the day after you finish.NOPE!

So who has been paying the bills all along?
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Intelligentsia
#6 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 5:07:39 PM
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so juu dowry ni investment bibi anafaa akue bonded for how long? d'oh!
FundamentAli
#7 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 5:09:47 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
Happens all the time - its called bonding.
Even private sector I have seen a co. take staff for an expensive training, and then bonding that staff for a couple of yrs (3 in this case) to ensure that the co. benefits most from the expertise it acquired from its investment in the staff.
In military you are required to serve for a minimum of 9 years (i stand to be coLLected on the yrs) before you can leave.

We can debate the length of the bonding but the concept is already entrenched.

What bonding? We pay HELB loans and many students who are self sponsored end up working for government.

In Military you are guaranteed 9 years of work, after that, they can chase you at their own will but with benefits of course.
murchr
#8 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 5:14:47 PM
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FundamentAli wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:
Happens all the time - its called bonding.
Even private sector I have seen a co. take staff for an expensive training, and then bonding that staff for a couple of yrs (3 in this case) to ensure that the co. benefits most from the expertise it acquired from its investment in the staff.
In military you are required to serve for a minimum of 9 years (i stand to be coLLected on the yrs) before you can leave.

We can debate the length of the bonding but the concept is already entrenched.

What bonding? We pay HELB loans and many students who are self sponsored end up working for government.

In Military you are guaranteed 9 years of work, after that, they can chase you at their own will but with benefits of course.


Are you a doctor? Try finding out how much goes into training a doctor, then compare what they pay at the unis and MTC. Those who dont want to be bonded, they can opt out but pay the full cost. This should have been done in 1963
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quicksand
#9 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 7:59:59 PM
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This will have the direct effect of making the bright, young ones venture into non-medical fields, making what is already an acute problem worse.
Is Kipchumba Murkomen a doctor, nurse or public-health or health-management professional? He should shut up
quicksand
#10 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 8:08:17 PM
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murchr wrote:
FundamentAli wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:
Happens all the time - its called bonding.
Even private sector I have seen a co. take staff for an expensive training, and then bonding that staff for a couple of yrs (3 in this case) to ensure that the co. benefits most from the expertise it acquired from its investment in the staff.
In military you are required to serve for a minimum of 9 years (i stand to be coLLected on the yrs) before you can leave.

We can debate the length of the bonding but the concept is already entrenched.

What bonding? We pay HELB loans and many students who are self sponsored end up working for government.

In Military you are guaranteed 9 years of work, after that, they can chase you at their own will but with benefits of course.


Are you a doctor? Try finding out how much goes into training a doctor, then compare what they pay at the unis and MTC. Those who dont want to be bonded, they can opt out but pay the full cost. This should have been done in 1963


Not all things are done for ROI. For instance, most of North Eastern province is a barren wasteland, but still we should like the Government to take piped water, paved roads, electricity and rail to those people even if little produce (and taxes) comes out of there to add to the GNP.

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