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freiks
#81 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2015 6:38:27 PM
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Alba wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Mo Farah is in panic mode after it was revealed that his coach has been using banned substances!!!

Gatlin seem to be back on diesel, Bolt seem to be avoiding him, Bolt has not run the times he is clocking in 100M since 2012!!!


Bolt is over the hill and cannot beat Gatlin who has discovered a new substance. In fact Bolt was at his peak in 2008 and 2009 and has been declining since then.

Most track athletes are at their peak for a period of 3 to 4 years after which they decline.

Gatlin on the other hand is 33 yet he is running faster than he did in his early twenties when he was busted for doping. This is a clear sign that Gatlin is on some kinda undetectable dope. Perhaps microdosing.

You can take this to the bank (HSBC) if you wish and you will get a loan, if Gatlin races Bolt a record will be broken and I will place my money on Bolt doing it, he has been avoiding him yes but remember he clocked the best time in 200M recently
Life is an endless adventure
Alba
#82 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2015 7:12:04 PM
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freiks wrote:

You can take this to the bank (HSBC) if you wish and you will get a loan, if Gatlin races Bolt a record will be broken and I will place my money on Bolt doing it, he has been avoiding him yes but remember he clocked the best time in 200M recently


Eeeh ??
Gatlin has the best 200m time in the world this year (19.68)
Bolt's best 200m time this year is 20.13 which places him in 8th position, only one hundredth of of a second faster than Carvin Nkanata of Kenya.
At this rate Bolt may not win a medal in Beijing. Even in the relays, Jamaica is looking bad.
McReggae
#83 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2015 1:33:37 PM
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Alba wrote:
freiks wrote:

You can take this to the bank (HSBC) if you wish and you will get a loan, if Gatlin races Bolt a record will be broken and I will place my money on Bolt doing it, he has been avoiding him yes but remember he clocked the best time in 200M recently


Eeeh ??
Gatlin has the best 200m time in the world this year (19.68)
Bolt's best 200m time this year is 20.13 which places him in 8th position, only one hundredth of of a second faster than Carvin Nkanata of Kenya.
At this rate Bolt may not win a medal in Beijing. Even in the relays, Jamaica is looking bad.


@freiks like said above check again. Bolt is yet do a sub 20 200m run in 2015!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
McReggae
#84 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2015 1:35:22 PM
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madollar wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Njung'e wrote:



That was one huge throw.Applause Applause Applause Applause I fear one of these fine day,he will throw that thing into the standsPraysmile


The Boy is in hi own world, the hosts had not planned for such a throw!!!

The competition pia sio mchezo a certain jamaa threw 88 yesterday for comparison sake london 2012 gold medalist was 84 .


Yego now holds the best time in the world since 2006!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
madollar
#85 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2015 1:37:48 PM
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nakujua wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Mo Farah is in panic mode after it was revealed that his coach has been using banned substances!!!

Gatlin seem to be back on diesel, Bolt seem to be avoiding him, Bolt has not run the times he is clocking in 100M since 2012!!!

enyewe Mo Farah is scared or angry - to the point of canceling his appearance at a race in his backyard.

So british athletics wants to examine Mo blood record.Funny he lowered his 10K best by 43sec the moment he joined the salazar group in oregon..hapa iko maneno
McReggae
#86 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2015 1:45:24 PM
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madollar wrote:
nakujua wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Mo Farah is in panic mode after it was revealed that his coach has been using banned substances!!!

Gatlin seem to be back on diesel, Bolt seem to be avoiding him, Bolt has not run the times he is clocking in 100M since 2012!!!

enyewe Mo Farah is scared or angry - to the point of canceling his appearance at a race in his backyard.

So british athletics wants to examine Mo blood record.Funny he lowered his 10K best by 43sec the moment he joined the salazar group in oregon..hapa iko maneno


Realistically it's hard to see how he can be clean. His coach is doping athletes. His teammates are doped up. He's the only clean one in the Salazar stable?.......he is now a marked man!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
D32
#87 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2015 4:39:12 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Alba wrote:
freiks wrote:

You can take this to the bank (HSBC) if you wish and you will get a loan, if Gatlin races Bolt a record will be broken and I will place my money on Bolt doing it, he has been avoiding him yes but remember he clocked the best time in 200M recently


Eeeh ??
Gatlin has the best 200m time in the world this year (19.68)
Bolt's best 200m time this year is 20.13 which places him in 8th position, only one hundredth of of a second faster than Carvin Nkanata of Kenya.
At this rate Bolt may not win a medal in Beijing. Even in the relays, Jamaica is looking bad.


@freiks like said above check again. Bolt is yet do a sub 20 200m run in 2015!!!!


I suspect that the reason why bolt has not been flaming the track is because of his party life. Bolt's neighbour is Sean Paul, the wife calls Bolt a neighbour from hell.

http://www.dailymail.co....-door-two-years-ago.html
They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds.
Alba
#88 Posted : Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:47:37 AM
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D32 wrote:

I suspect that the reason why bolt has not been flaming the track is because of his party life. Bolt's neighbour is Sean Paul, the wife calls Bolt a neighbour from hell.

http://www.dailymail.co....door-two-years-ago.html



Or maybe it is simply because of natural progression. As I said above, most track athletes are at their peak for only about 3-4 years. There is a natural wear and tear that happens because of all the extreme training that athletes do. This especially applies to sprinters. Unlike football, even a small injury that does not heal properly can make the difference between being a medal contender and failing to qualify for the Olympics. That is unless they are doping with human growth hormone. This is likely the fate that has also befallen Rudisha aka "Zongisa". We saw his best between 2009 and 2012. We likely will not see him at 1:41 again. As for Bolt we likely will not see him below 9.80.
Kusadikika
#89 Posted : Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:12:10 AM
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Alba wrote:
D32 wrote:

I suspect that the reason why bolt has not been flaming the track is because of his party life. Bolt's neighbour is Sean Paul, the wife calls Bolt a neighbour from hell.

http://www.dailymail.co....door-two-years-ago.html



Or maybe it is simply because of natural progression. As I said above, most track athletes are at their peak for only about 3-4 years. There is a natural wear and tear that happens because of all the extreme training that athletes do. This especially applies to sprinters. Unlike football, even a small injury that does not heal properly can make the difference between being a medal contender and failing to qualify for the Olympics. That is unless they are doping with human growth hormone. This is likely the fate that has also befallen Rudisha aka "Zongisa". We saw his best between 2009 and 2012. We likely will not see him at 1:41 again. As for Bolt we likely will not see him below 9.80.


@ Alba, that may be one reason. I think another reason maybe just lack of motivation. Running is a solo sport, you are not passing anything to any one, there is no winning when you have not put in your best, there is no shared glory. Messi does not have to shine the whole 90 minutes of a game nor does he need to for his team to win. He can have a few bad passes, a few misses he can even have a few bad games in a season and still be part of and a star of a winning team.

In athletics you must be at your best to win 100% of the time, a bad day results in 100% defeat. You can only have the willpower to be at that level everyday for so long. The physical and mental pressure takes their toll after a while. After you have got what you want which for most people is money the motivation to train and be at your very best all the time just diminishes.

A classic tale is this beautifully told story about Daniel Komen:

http://running.competito...d-to-daniel-komen_27486
madollar
#90 Posted : Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:34:01 PM
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@kusadikika after reading that daniel komen article makes you wonder is it about low morale or kushika pesa but yet on the flipside we have the likes of kemboi must be clocking a decade in the business but still going strong.They should also do an article on pamela jelimo same tabias as komen at her peak she ran 1.54.01 just 1 second shy of the 800 women set in 1983 by some russian most likely on steroids
Alba
#91 Posted : Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:29:50 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:


@ Alba, that may be one reason. I think another reason maybe just lack of motivation. Running is a solo sport, you are not passing anything to any one, there is no winning when you have not put in your best, there is no shared glory. Messi does not have to shine the whole 90 minutes of a game nor does he need to for his team to win. He can have a few bad passes, a few misses he can even have a few bad games in a season and still be part of and a star of a winning team.

In athletics you must be at your best to win 100% of the time, a bad day results in 100% defeat. You can only have the willpower to be at that level everyday for so long. The physical and mental pressure takes their toll after a while. After you have got what you want which for most people is money the motivation to train and be at your very best all the time just diminishes.

A classic tale is this beautifully told story about Daniel Komen:

http://running.competito...d-to-daniel-komen_27486


The top sportsmen usually get to the top due to hard work. And they generally have large egos. Lack of motivation is rarely a factor. They are making a lot of money due to hard work so they can see the fruits of their hard work.

Secondly, they do not like losing. Do you see the look of distress in runners when they are upset at the finish line? Don't you think Bolt was traumatized at losing the 4 X 100m relay to USA recently and seeing a USA runner taunting him? That kind of taunting would motivate the heck out of anyone.

The difference between Bolt and Messi is that even if Messi gets injured and does not recover fully, he may be slightly slower but still effective. He can still dribble, pass, shoot and out-smart opponents. Runners on the other hand are totally dependent on speed. A slight injury that does not heal properly is the difference between running 9.80 and running 9.95 which puts you out of medal contention. Bolt is still working hard as is Rudisha. But both have picked up significant injuries over the past two years which have made them slightly slower. Its clearly not lack of motivation.

As for Komen, yes I did read that story several months ago. I think he is a classic case of running yourself into the ground. Too many runners run in too many races and burn themselves out. They think they are invincible. Some even run while injured and ruin their careers as was the case with Shaheen who continued to run against Doctor advice.
masukuma
#92 Posted : Wednesday, June 10, 2015 6:28:58 PM
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D32 wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Alba wrote:
[quote=freiks]
You can take this to the bank (HSBC) if you wish and you will get a loan, if Gatlin races Bolt a record will be broken and I will place my money on Bolt doing it, he has been avoiding him yes but remember he clocked the best time in 200M recently


Eeeh ??
Gatlin has the best 200m time in the world this year (19.68)
Bolt's best 200m time this year is 20.13 which places him in 8th position, only one hundredth of of a second faster than Carvin Nkanata of Kenya.
At this rate Bolt may not win a medal in Beijing. Even in the relays, Jamaica is looking bad.


@freiks like said above check again. Bolt is yet do a sub 20 200m run in 2015!!!!


I suspect that the reason why bolt has not been flaming the track is because of his party life. Bolt's neighbour is Sean Paul, the wife calls Bolt a neighbour from hell.

http://www.dailymail.co....door-two-years-ago.html[/quote]
what a tragedy!
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bkismat
#93 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2015 10:53:17 AM
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http://www1.skysports.co...scared-of-justin-gatlin
Quote:
I look forward to competing when people talk... because if you don't back it up, you look really stupid.

The Jamaican, however, insists his race selection was nothing to do with fear of any other athlete.

"Afraid? When people say that, I laugh. I've been in the sport for years and I've never dodged anybody. When it matters, I've always showed up and shown that I'm the best," Bolt said.

"Fact is, I'm not in the best of shape and I'm not going to put myself out there if I know I'm just coming back and I need time to get back to where I need to be.

"When I get to Beijing, I'll be ready to go and that's when the showdown will be."


It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
Alba
#94 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2015 3:32:11 PM
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I like Bolt. But he is indeed dodging Gatlin and rightfully so. Bolt has been injury plagued since 2013. Last year he ended his season early. He is not ready to face Gatlin. But the fact that Gatlin has been banned for doping twice and is still running is precisely what is wrong with this sport.

That interview also gives you some insight into how big the egos of top stars are and how important winning is for them. So if you think Bolt would lose motivation, slack off and party as some here are suggesting, think again. Winning is far too important to people like Bolt for him to lose his motivation.

My take is that Bolt has already made enough money. Therefore if he loses motivation, rather than risk losing to Gatlin, he would rather just retire from the sport and leave on top. He will still make a lot of money in retirement.
bkismat
#95 Posted : Saturday, June 13, 2015 7:41:45 AM
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http://www.diamondleague...45c86572d1056be165145064
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
Alba
#96 Posted : Sunday, June 14, 2015 2:07:35 AM
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D32
#97 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 7:18:43 PM
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bkismat wrote:
http://www.diamondleague.com/news/single-news/news/new-york-bolt-with-pichardo-also-set-to-star/?tx_news_pi1%5Bcontroller%5D=News&tx_news_pi1%5Baction%5D=detail&cHash=864e984845c86572d1056be165145064




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D32
#98 Posted : Tuesday, June 16, 2015 7:26:46 PM
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He did fine, commentator says that he could have done better.

They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds.
bkismat
#99 Posted : Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:55:38 PM
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Its becoming mo & no suspect
http://www.dailymail.co....12-double-gold-risk.html
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
madollar
#100 Posted : Friday, June 19, 2015 4:25:23 PM
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[quote=bkismat]Its becoming mo & no suspect
http://www.dailymail.co....2-double-gold-risk.html[/quote]

Ati MO claims he never heard the door bell ring when the testers came knocking Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly The only way he can clear this doubts is to win and win big.
ION the ethiopians must be smiling , MO predicaments ,he has denied them gold in major championships for 5K and 10K since 2012
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