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Cooperative Bank versus Mumias.
Gordon Gekko
#21 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:03:12 AM
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Yes @njunge. And his son was to get married this weekend. Isnt life a bummer?
mwala
#22 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:41:46 AM
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Eternal rest grant unto her O lord
And may perpetual light shine upon her
May her soul rest in peace
Amen.
wasee
#23 Posted : Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:00:51 AM
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Mumias is a volatile share. every now and then you hear sugarcane farms getting burnt. this makes it very risky to invest in it
Chaka
#24 Posted : Friday, February 26, 2010 7:38:44 AM
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I have seen a full page ad in the Nation by Kwale International Sugar Co.Ltd seeking for personnel.
In the intro it says it will plant sugar in their 15,000 acre estate in Kwale/Ramisi.Does anyone know who is behind this project and the effect it will have on Mumias?
wote
#25 Posted : Friday, February 26, 2010 8:57:40 AM
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Sorry guys my earlier post should have read 900k as opposed to 90k and ofcourse minus the usual costs.vvs thanks for the correction on the taxes.
ecstacy
#26 Posted : Friday, February 26, 2010 10:15:39 AM
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In a laymans view, if COMESA sugar producers are way more interested in exporting to Asia and Europe, Kwale sugar is little in the way of MSC where it has barely met the local demand going foward let alone satisfactorily engage in meeting international demand. MSC still has quite some mileage left...
VituVingiSana
#27 Posted : Friday, February 26, 2010 1:35:11 PM
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The current situation favors Mumias... but if Europe pays less in the future then the COMESA sugar will look at Kenya again...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#28 Posted : Friday, February 26, 2010 5:43:26 PM
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mwala wrote:
Commission and other expenses regardless,mumias remain the best;Consider selling 20k coop shares at 9.75.That accounts an expense of 5k.Again buying Mumias at 10.50(factoring in the transaction fee) that gives me 18k Mumias shares.Selling Mumias by the end of the year at 15 bob gives me 240k.240k>190k if my arithmetic serves me well.Plus a dividend cheque say 7200

@mwala, if all of us could make stock price predictions as easily as you do, we would all be riiiiiich!
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VituVingiSana
#29 Posted : Friday, February 26, 2010 7:51:36 PM
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sparkly wrote:
mwala wrote:
Commission and other expenses regardless,mumias remain the best;Consider selling 20k coop shares at 9.75.That accounts an expense of 5k.Again buying Mumias at 10.50(factoring in the transaction fee) that gives me 18k Mumias shares.Selling Mumias by the end of the year at 15 bob gives me 240k.240k>190k if my arithmetic serves me well.Plus a dividend cheque say 7200

@mwala, if all of us could make stock price predictions as easily as you do, we would all be riiiiiich!

Mumias tasted/tested below 10 today. There is fatigue in the market. I can sense it.

People are tired of investing (or rather lack of cash)...

Great results from KPLC did not even move the price... It was 150/- before the announcement & slightly higher 155/- afterwards...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mwala
#30 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:38:47 AM
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Great results from KPLC did not even move the price... It was 150/- before the announcement & slightly higher 155/- afterwards...(and now)
wasee
#31 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:10:50 PM
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@mwala. The increase in price may be attributed to investors wanting to cash in on the interim dividend{book closure in March} and also share split
ecstacy
#32 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:29:07 PM
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KPLC has been a good counter however with KPLC share dilution by GoK in the offing..could be a good thing or otherwise to invest in it now...
FundamentAli
#33 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:54:52 PM
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There is a suit before the courts by the outgrowers against Mumias regarding remittance of Development funds. Figures being talked about are huge. Looks like the company has been operating on free capital.
guru267
#34 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:18:18 PM
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@wasee, @mwala, @ecstacy PLEASE lets stick to the thread topic...
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Njung'e
#35 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:24:55 PM
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@Fundamentali,
Case without a basis...What development fund?Cess goes to the local municipal council.
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Ngalaka
#36 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 3:51:52 PM
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Cooperative seems to have hit menopause at 10.00.
KPLC waiting to pleasantly suprise us.
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
winston
#37 Posted : Friday, June 25, 2010 2:59:03 PM
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And as of today Coop has won the argument over Mumias...and maybe the 'win' will only last until mumias releases its results!
guru267
#38 Posted : Friday, June 25, 2010 5:05:23 PM
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winston wrote:
And as of today Coop has won the argument over Mumias...and maybe the 'win' will only last until mumias releases its results!


there are no winners and losers on the NSE because every stock has its day... I'm pretty sure a mumias rally should be in order soon...

i expect it to hit 16bob by end August
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
ProverB
#39 Posted : Friday, June 25, 2010 5:33:43 PM
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guru267 wrote:
I'm pretty sure a mumias rally should be in order soon...

i expect it to hit 16bob by end August


am of the same opinion.
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shauriyako
#40 Posted : Friday, June 25, 2010 6:39:32 PM
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ProverB wrote:
guru267 wrote:
I'm pretty sure a mumias rally should be in order soon...

i expect it to hit 16bob by end August


am of the same opinion.


Am I overly optimistic? With the anticipated good results and good dividend I see 18 silings towards results and 20 silings towards book closure for dividends.Drool Drool Drool
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