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How others fight terror (Long Post Alert!!)
murchr
#11 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 3:06:00 PM
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Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
Can terror be fought? YES How does one get the 'terrorist' label? Very many ways


Fight is a word with many meanings and as a verb Fight means -"to oppose the passage or development"

I understand Rusungu is a foreign lingo but now use it in that context.



Still you cannot oppose the passage or development of terrorism,you can only counter terrorism


Quote:
Verb - counter
:to do something in defense or in response to something
: to make (something) less effective
: to say (something) in response to something that another person has said


You can...Ive given examples you see, the problem with Kenya is that we wait for it to happen so that we can "Counter" << and you wonder why we're still counting bodies?

Even in countering the methodologies of going about it are so cumbersome. The terrorists have a magazine "gaidi.com" what do KP have? Posters?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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tycho
#12 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 3:18:51 PM
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murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
Can terror be fought? YES How does one get the 'terrorist' label? Very many ways


Fight is a word with many meanings and as a verb Fight means -"to oppose the passage or development"

I understand Rusungu is a foreign lingo but now use it in that context.



Still you cannot oppose the passage or development of terrorism,you can only counter terrorism


Quote:
Verb - counter
:to do something in defense or in response to something
: to make (something) less effective
: to say (something) in response to something that another person has said


You can...Ive given examples you see, the problem with Kenya is that we wait for it to happen so that we can "Counter" << and you wonder why we're still counting bodies?


First, @murchr, 'terror' implies 'intense fear' and 'fight' is basically rooted in 'fear' and spreading 'fear'.

Secondly, I doubt whether there are many ways of acquiring the 'terrorist' label. One only has to cause others to fear. And fighting, arresting, detaining all work along causing fear.

Swenani
#13 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 3:20:17 PM
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tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
Can terror be fought? YES How does one get the 'terrorist' label? Very many ways


Fight is a word with many meanings and as a verb Fight means -"to oppose the passage or development"

I understand Rusungu is a foreign lingo but now use it in that context.



Still you cannot oppose the passage or development of terrorism,you can only counter terrorism


Quote:
Verb - counter
:to do something in defense or in response to something
: to make (something) less effective
: to say (something) in response to something that another person has said


You can...Ive given examples you see, the problem with Kenya is that we wait for it to happen so that we can "Counter" << and you wonder why we're still counting bodies?


First, @murchr, 'terror' implies 'intense fear' and 'fight' is basically rooted in 'fear' and spreading 'fear'.

Secondly, I doubt whether there are many ways of acquiring the 'terrorist' label. One only has to cause others to fear. And fighting, arresting, detaining all work along causing fear.



So you can fight/counter terror by terrorizing?Can we say that ISIS and Alshabaab are fighting terror?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
tycho
#14 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 3:28:17 PM
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Location: Nairobi
Swenani wrote:
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
Can terror be fought? YES How does one get the 'terrorist' label? Very many ways


Fight is a word with many meanings and as a verb Fight means -"to oppose the passage or development"

I understand Rusungu is a foreign lingo but now use it in that context.



Still you cannot oppose the passage or development of terrorism,you can only counter terrorism


Quote:
Verb - counter
:to do something in defense or in response to something
: to make (something) less effective
: to say (something) in response to something that another person has said


You can...Ive given examples you see, the problem with Kenya is that we wait for it to happen so that we can "Counter" << and you wonder why we're still counting bodies?


First, @murchr, 'terror' implies 'intense fear' and 'fight' is basically rooted in 'fear' and spreading 'fear'.

Secondly, I doubt whether there are many ways of acquiring the 'terrorist' label. One only has to cause others to fear. And fighting, arresting, detaining all work along causing fear.



So you can fight/counter terror by terrorizing?Can we say that ISIS and Alshabaab are fighting terror?


If we take this 'rusungu' seriously, then even AS is fighting terror. This whole story is a fool's errand.
murchr
#15 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 3:32:36 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Swenani wrote:
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
Can terror be fought? YES How does one get the 'terrorist' label? Very many ways


Fight is a word with many meanings and as a verb Fight means -"to oppose the passage or development"

I understand Rusungu is a foreign lingo but now use it in that context.



Still you cannot oppose the passage or development of terrorism,you can only counter terrorism


Quote:
Verb - counter
:to do something in defense or in response to something
: to make (something) less effective
: to say (something) in response to something that another person has said


You can...Ive given examples you see, the problem with Kenya is that we wait for it to happen so that we can "Counter" << and you wonder why we're still counting bodies?


First, @murchr, 'terror' implies 'intense fear' and 'fight' is basically rooted in 'fear' and spreading 'fear'.

Secondly, I doubt whether there are many ways of acquiring the 'terrorist' label. One only has to cause others to fear. And fighting, arresting, detaining all work along causing fear.



So you can fight/counter terror by terrorizing?Can we say that ISIS and Alshabaab are fighting terror?


Now this is thread mutation. Try to answer yourself
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Swenani
#16 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 3:37:05 PM
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Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
Can terror be fought? YES How does one get the 'terrorist' label? Very many ways


Fight is a word with many meanings and as a verb Fight means -"to oppose the passage or development"

I understand Rusungu is a foreign lingo but now use it in that context.



Still you cannot oppose the passage or development of terrorism,you can only counter terrorism


Quote:
Verb - counter
:to do something in defense or in response to something
: to make (something) less effective
: to say (something) in response to something that another person has said


You can...Ive given examples you see, the problem with Kenya is that we wait for it to happen so that we can "Counter" << and you wonder why we're still counting bodies?

Even in countering the methodologies of going about it are so cumbersome. The terrorists have a magazine "gaidi.com" what do KP have? Posters?


@Kipchirchir,I refuse to accept that fight and counter are one and the same,

If we have airport screening,metal detectors at entrances,tapping into telephone conversation etc,Is it fighting terror or countering terror?

In my limited understanding and grasp of rusungu; Countering is taking precautionary measures(unknown) and fighting is taking it "head on"(known)
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
tycho
#17 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 3:47:03 PM
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Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
Can terror be fought? YES How does one get the 'terrorist' label? Very many ways


Fight is a word with many meanings and as a verb Fight means -"to oppose the passage or development"

I understand Rusungu is a foreign lingo but now use it in that context.



Still you cannot oppose the passage or development of terrorism,you can only counter terrorism


Quote:
Verb - counter
:to do something in defense or in response to something
: to make (something) less effective
: to say (something) in response to something that another person has said


You can...Ive given examples you see, the problem with Kenya is that we wait for it to happen so that we can "Counter" << and you wonder why we're still counting bodies?


First, @murchr, 'terror' implies 'intense fear' and 'fight' is basically rooted in 'fear' and spreading 'fear'.

Secondly, I doubt whether there are many ways of acquiring the 'terrorist' label. One only has to cause others to fear. And fighting, arresting, detaining all work along causing fear.



So you can fight/counter terror by terrorizing?Can we say that ISIS and Alshabaab are fighting terror?


Now this is thread mutation. Try to answer yourself


Mutation happens to be an important 'tool' that furthers the ultimate goal of the species. That's one reason why it happens.
murchr
#18 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 4:27:40 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
tycho wrote:
murchr wrote:
Swenani wrote:
murchr wrote:
tycho wrote:
Can terror be fought? YES How does one get the 'terrorist' label? Very many ways


Fight is a word with many meanings and as a verb Fight means -"to oppose the passage or development"

I understand Rusungu is a foreign lingo but now use it in that context.



Still you cannot oppose the passage or development of terrorism,you can only counter terrorism


Quote:
Verb - counter
:to do something in defense or in response to something
: to make (something) less effective
: to say (something) in response to something that another person has said


You can...Ive given examples you see, the problem with Kenya is that we wait for it to happen so that we can "Counter" << and you wonder why we're still counting bodies?


First, @murchr, 'terror' implies 'intense fear' and 'fight' is basically rooted in 'fear' and spreading 'fear'.

Secondly, I doubt whether there are many ways of acquiring the 'terrorist' label. One only has to cause others to fear. And fighting, arresting, detaining all work along causing fear.



So you can fight/counter terror by terrorizing?Can we say that ISIS and Alshabaab are fighting terror?


Now this is thread mutation. Try to answer yourself


Mutation happens to be an important 'tool' that furthers the ultimate goal of the species. That's one reason why it happens.


An in most times causing cancer.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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tycho
#19 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 4:42:43 PM
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Not 'most', probably 'many'.
murchr
#20 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2015 6:09:02 AM
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Washington (AFP) - A US man born in Iraq was arrested Thursday for allegedly lying to the FBI about supporting the Islamic State jihadists after a pledge of allegiance to the group's leader was found on his computer, the Justice Department said.

Bilal Abood, 37, of Mesquite, Texas, is believed to have traveled from the United States to Syria through Mexico and Turkey in 2013, the Justice Department said.

Upon his return four months later, he allegedly told the Federal Bureau of Investigation that he intended to fight alongside the Free Syrian Army to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad. He also said he stayed in a camp with the rebels....
http://news.yahoo.com/us...llegiance-231839479.html
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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