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Scrap women Reps and nominated Mps-JB
famooz
#21 Posted : Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:42:14 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
Sort of like what the bullfighter proposed.
1. Scrap all nominated posts
2. Scrap all womens reps
3. Reduce constituencies to 150
4. Elect 2 mps per constituency (man and woman)

To his proposal I would add:
1. Reduce MCA as above
2. Reduce counties to 15.


Agreed! Wapi @ mc apeleke hii kwa baba,this is the kuokolewa that we require!!
harrydre
#22 Posted : Wednesday, May 13, 2015 12:28:31 AM
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Joined: 7/10/2008
Posts: 9,131
Location: Kanjo
famooz wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
Sort of like what the bullfighter proposed.
1. Scrap all nominated posts
2. Scrap all womens reps
3. Reduce constituencies to 150
4. Elect 2 mps per constituency (man and woman)

To his proposal I would add:
1. Reduce MCA as above
2. Reduce counties to 15.


Agreed! Wapi @ mc apeleke hii kwa baba,this is the kuokolewa that we require!!



and I would join the Okoa Kenya movement that very day....
i.am.back!!!!
mkeiy
#23 Posted : Wednesday, May 13, 2015 8:29:38 AM
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Joined: 1/27/2012
Posts: 851
Location: Nairobi
Gordon Gekko wrote:
Sort of like what the bullfighter proposed.
1. Scrap all nominated posts
2. Scrap all womens reps
3. Reduce constituencies to 150
4. Elect 2 mps per constituency (man and woman)

To his proposal I would add:
1. Reduce MCA as above
2. Reduce counties to 15.


Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

The only way to go if we are truly interested in increasing the women participation REASONABLY!

Let the women leaders fight out for their seats.
Impunity
#24 Posted : Wednesday, May 13, 2015 8:49:58 AM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,335
Location: Masada
Gordon Gekko wrote:
Sort of like what the bullfighter proposed.
1. Scrap all nominated posts
2. Scrap all womens reps
3. Reduce constituencies to 150
4. Elect 2 mps per constituency (man and woman)

To his proposal I would add:
1. Reduce MCA as above
2. Reduce counties to 15.


Too many constituencies, make it 75 Max!
So we will have 75 males and 75 females!
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

jaggernaut
#25 Posted : Wednesday, May 13, 2015 5:16:12 PM
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Joined: 10/9/2008
Posts: 5,389
MKWASI wrote:
Wamunyota wrote:
Wendz wrote:
Wamunyota wrote:
Speaker of the National Assembly Justin Muturi has proposed the scrapping of the women representative and the nominated MPs seats.

Muturi has instead suggested that the two be replaced with 100 affirmative seats in order to resolve the two-third gender rule.

“There will be 25 nominated slots in the Senate, giving it a total of 72 thereby dealing with the issue of the two third gender rule in the Senate. In the National Assembly, there will be 100 slots bringing the total number of legislators to 390,” he said in his proposal.

The Speaker said the proposal would increase members in both Houses by 46 and it is bound to bring about the debate on the wage Bill. The Speaker urged Kenyans to make the sacrifice for the sake of empowering women and accept the proposed changes.

Muturi's proposal


There is no value these women rep positions are adding to women expect to the pockets of those elected. I dont even know who the women rep in my area is because I've never heard anything she does.... Wacha waende... and no replacement with I dont know Senate/national assembly whatever... wacha waende waende kabisa.... I would be ready to go to the referendum to scrap that.... but I know baba would not add it in his referendum question for his own sake..

Babu is already planning for mass protests if these seats are scrapped off.In fact instead of the okoa kenya nonsense,he should propose reducing the number of these mpigs,Wreps and Mrats.This is now the real Okoa Kenya.

Mass Action


It is abit confusing....The item was not among the OKOA issues.

By Babu supporting the women he thinks the idea is popular and hence resonate well with OKOA supporters unknown to him is the fact that increasing the number of women reps is a very unpopular move.

if one of the OKOA issues is to reduce our current representatives starting with MCA's, Women rep and Mp's we would support him fully.


<<<Baba now says his mass action call was a JOKE>>>
butterflyke
#26 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2015 3:46:27 AM
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Location: Hapa
CLEARLY NOT UNAFFORDABLE

Kenya’s Parliament is also unwilling to take legislative initiatives to respond to the directions of the Supreme Court and ensure adherence to this “two-thirds rule”, ostensibly because the Executive had not prepared and presented the bill for debate. Yet there is no constitutional barrier to Parliament itself initiating laws.

Kenya’s press has carried stories on the points of contention, but addressed them in ways that don’t aid disclosure of facts. For instance, there is more emphasis placed on the fact that compliance with the rule would result in increased expenditure.

The study mentioned above finds that the most expensive, but least likely, scenario would require an additional Sh2.4 billion to pay for an additional seven seats for the Senate and 104 for the National Assembly. That would be equivalent to an additional tax of 1 shilling per week for each citizen.

While Sh2.4 billion is not pocket change, it is important to measure it against other discretionary spending to show its affordability. For context, the maximum sum needed to ensure women’s full representation represents less than half a day of total public spending for 2015.

Therefore, the speaker of the National Assembly and the press were wrong to promote the impression that this spending is inordinately large without comparing it to total spending that is a thousand times larger. To state it clearly, it’s a lie to continue opposing implementation of the “Two-thirds rule” on claims of unaffordability.

SAVINGS THROUGH OVERSIGHT

The study cited above also compared the maximum cost of implementation to recent reports by the Auditor General on spending for which state departments could not completely provide records.

Among other departments, the Ministry of Education and the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) alone could not account for nearly five times the current cost of implementing the “two-thirds” rule.

Simply put, if Parliament really wanted to do its job properly, it would ensure that waste and embezzlement in the public sector was controlled. This oversight function, competently performed, would generate sufficient savings to ensure immediate compliance with the two-thirds rule, even without raising any taxes.

For the hardworking taxpayer, the lesson here is that we should be less willing to take claims by arms of government at face value.  Failure to question the assumptions behind policy positions of state officers will be expensive.

The good news is that Kenya can afford a properly constituted legislature today without breaking taxpayers’ backs.

Anyone making contrary claims is merely telling tall tales. Truth does not respect status.

Kwame Owino is the Chief executive Officer of the Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA-Kenya), a public policy think tank based in Nairobi.

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