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Team MANNY, 2nd May our day
Jus Blazin
#101 Posted : Sunday, May 03, 2015 10:25:01 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
According to the sub-standard :
'Floyd Mayweather was unanimously declared the winner and remained the undefeated WBC champion after Knocking out Manny Pacquiao in the “fight of a century” in a closely contested bout in Las Vegas today.'

If you knock out someone, are you unanimously declared the winner?

You should have stopped reading at 'knocking out'...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
washiku
#102 Posted : Sunday, May 03, 2015 10:36:26 AM
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Matoe
#103 Posted : Sunday, May 03, 2015 12:57:32 PM
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Luhya Word of the day: Pacquiao.

''Watoto walipepa vitapu ndani ya Pacquiao''.
Kusadikika
#104 Posted : Sunday, May 03, 2015 1:55:12 PM
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I will never watch another boxing match ever. If you want to see a fight watch UFC and even then it gets tiring really fast. Mayweather is like the Greek team than won Euro 2004.....He plays the rules of the game but nobody will want to remember any of his fights. He is a smart salesman for talking the world into paying him $200m for an entertainment piece of s**t. Unfortunately for him his talk has no cause like Ali's and even for entertainment value he does not come close. I will stick to watching athletics and marathons, there is no hype there, just tough humble people toiling away, I can learn something from that..... Done with rant..
Obi 1 Kanobi
#105 Posted : Sunday, May 03, 2015 2:11:33 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
I will never watch another boxing match ever. If you want to see a fight watch UFC and even then it gets tiring really fast. Mayweather is like the Greek team than won Euro 2004.....He plays the rules of the game but nobody will want to remember any of his fights. He is a smart salesman for talking the world into paying him $200m for an entertainment piece of s**t. Unfortunately for him his talk has no cause like Ali's and even for entertainment value he does not come close. I will stick to watching athletics and marathons, there is no hype there, just tough humble people toiling away, I can learn something from that..... Done with rant..


Laughable rant here. FM's record of 48-0 speaks for itself. He has beaten each and every fighter that came his way. If entertainment is valued in $ terms then he is the best at it. Throwing many wild punches in the hope of hitting your oppo is a bar brawl not boxing. Winning within the rules is all that matters and defence is within the rules. Infact 'defend yourself' is a mandatory ref instruction.

I know its difficult for house wives and curious folk tuning into the fight due to the hype to digest the principles but boxing is an art, not a bar brawl.
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quicksand
#106 Posted : Sunday, May 03, 2015 2:16:17 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
I will never watch another boxing match ever. If you want to see a fight watch UFC and even then it gets tiring really fast. Mayweather is like the Greek team than won Euro 2004.....He plays the rules of the game but nobody will want to remember any of his fights. He is a smart salesman for talking the world into paying him $200m for an entertainment piece of s**t. Unfortunately for him his talk has no cause like Ali's and even for entertainment value he does not come close. I will stick to watching athletics and marathons, there is no hype there, just tough humble people toiling away, I can learn something from that..... Done with rant..


You are right, ....it looks like the era of thrills in boxing ended with Tyson. And now look at the heavyweight division,..with the Klitschkos boring fans to tears.
The 'market' should correct this. Winning is important but so is delivering a spectacle. I hope fans and TV networks will no longer be willing to pay so much to watch two men play a technical cat and mouse
Boris Boyka
#107 Posted : Sunday, May 03, 2015 2:27:28 PM
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quicksand wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
I will never watch another boxing match ever. If you want to see a fight watch UFC and even then it gets tiring really fast. Mayweather is like the Greek team than won Euro 2004.....He plays the rules of the game but nobody will want to remember any of his fights. He is a smart salesman for talking the world into paying him $200m for an entertainment piece of s**t. Unfortunately for him his talk has no cause like Ali's and even for entertainment value he does not come close. I will stick to watching athletics and marathons, there is no hype there, just tough humble people toiling away, I can learn something from that..... Done with rant..


You are right, ....it looks like the era of thrills in boxing ended with Tyson. And now look at the heavyweight division,..with the Klitschkos boring fans to tears.
The 'market' should correct this. Winning is important but so is delivering a spectacle. I hope fans and TV networks will no longer be willing to pay so much to watch two men play a technical cat and mouse

That is why i did not watch it!!! It is more of wrestling tactics ooh wrestling is better. True Boxing ended with the heavyweights we knew...Tyson Lewis Hollyfield e.t.c. Athletics remains most entertaining i was glued to Bahamas before i slept. The relays sprints gymnastics e.t.c ball games are Worth it.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
Matoe
#108 Posted : Sunday, May 03, 2015 2:29:53 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
I will never watch another boxing match ever. If you want to see a fight watch UFC and even then it gets tiring really fast. Mayweather is like the Greek team than won Euro 2004.....He plays the rules of the game but nobody will want to remember any of his fights. He is a smart salesman for talking the world into paying him $200m for an entertainment piece of s**t. Unfortunately for him his talk has no cause like Ali's and even for entertainment value he does not come close. I will stick to watching athletics and marathons, there is no hype there, just tough humble people toiling away, I can learn something from that..... Done with rant..


Laughable rant here. FM's record of 48-0 speaks for itself. He has beaten each and every fighter that came his way. If entertainment is valued in $ terms then he is the best at it. Throwing many wild punches in the hope of hitting your oppo is a bar brawl not boxing. Winning within the rules is all that matters and defence is within the rules. Infact 'defend yourself' is a mandatory ref instruction.

I know its difficult for house wives and curious folk tuning into the fight due to the hype to digest the principles but boxing is an art, not a bar brawl.


Well said. Laughing out loudly Applause Applause Applause Applause
quicksand
#109 Posted : Sunday, May 03, 2015 3:12:22 PM
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Matoe wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
I will never watch another boxing match ever. If you want to see a fight watch UFC and even then it gets tiring really fast. Mayweather is like the Greek team than won Euro 2004.....He plays the rules of the game but nobody will want to remember any of his fights. He is a smart salesman for talking the world into paying him $200m for an entertainment piece of s**t. Unfortunately for him his talk has no cause like Ali's and even for entertainment value he does not come close. I will stick to watching athletics and marathons, there is no hype there, just tough humble people toiling away, I can learn something from that..... Done with rant..


Laughable rant here. FM's record of 48-0 speaks for itself. He has beaten each and every fighter that came his way. If entertainment is valued in $ terms then he is the best at it. Throwing many wild punches in the hope of hitting your oppo is a bar brawl not boxing. Winning within the rules is all that matters and defence is within the rules. Infact 'defend yourself' is a mandatory ref instruction.

I know its difficult for house wives and curious folk tuning into the fight due to the hype to digest the principles but boxing is an art, not a bar brawl.


Well said. Laughing out loudly Applause Applause Applause Applause

A boring match is a boring match. It is usually similar criticism when 2 top flight soccer teams, say Real and Barca just pass the ball around and bring forth a draw or a timid 1-0. The boxing world should really care that these people, the housewives and curious folk who tuned in and found the match not worth spit. It is now aficionados playing it up, pulling arrogant airs, pointing out arcane technical aspects and minutiae and completely missing common sense and the big picture. Something is wrong with this. If the regular man tunes in to boxing less and less, the sport will tend more towards the obscure end, like Chess marathons (whose fans rabid fascination with rules, strategy and technical details is unparalleled, but revenues,prize money and wide interest nonexistent).
Perhaps this is what true boxing fans want. A pure experience of nuance and technical details. The casual watcher wants thrills, simplicity, and he feels cheated. The boxing world needs the money this person will pay, otherwise the sport declines. This match squandered a big chance to conscript more fans into boxing
MaichBlack
#110 Posted : Sunday, May 03, 2015 3:44:48 PM
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quicksand wrote:
Matoe wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
I will never watch another boxing match ever. If you want to see a fight watch UFC and even then it gets tiring really fast. Mayweather is like the Greek team than won Euro 2004.....He plays the rules of the game but nobody will want to remember any of his fights. He is a smart salesman for talking the world into paying him $200m for an entertainment piece of s**t. Unfortunately for him his talk has no cause like Ali's and even for entertainment value he does not come close. I will stick to watching athletics and marathons, there is no hype there, just tough humble people toiling away, I can learn something from that..... Done with rant..


Laughable rant here. FM's record of 48-0 speaks for itself. He has beaten each and every fighter that came his way. If entertainment is valued in $ terms then he is the best at it. Throwing many wild punches in the hope of hitting your oppo is a bar brawl not boxing. Winning within the rules is all that matters and defence is within the rules. Infact 'defend yourself' is a mandatory ref instruction.

I know its difficult for house wives and curious folk tuning into the fight due to the hype to digest the principles but boxing is an art, not a bar brawl.


Well said. Laughing out loudly Applause Applause Applause Applause

A boring match is a boring match. It is usually similar criticism when 2 top flight soccer teams, say Real and Barca just pass the ball around and bring forth a draw or a timid 1-0. The boxing world should really care that these people, the housewives and curious folk who tuned in and found the match not worth spit. It is now aficionados playing it up, pulling arrogant airs, pointing out arcane technical aspects and minutiae and completely missing common sense and the big picture. Something is wrong with this. If the regular man tunes in to boxing less and less, the sport will tend more towards the obscure end, like Chess marathons (whose fans rabid fascination with rules, strategy and technical details is unparalleled, but revenues,prize money and wide interest nonexistent).
Perhaps this is what true boxing fans want. A pure experience of nuance and technical details. The amateur watcher wants thrills, simplicity. The boxing world needs the money this person will pay, otherwise the sport declines. This match squandered a big chance to conscript more fans into boxing

Enough said!!!

Very well put!

The question the purists should ask themselves is, were there to be a rematch, would it attract as much buzz as today's bout? Would it generate as much revenue as today's bout?

The answers are NO and NO!!! I doubt any of them would even get to 50%. And this is exactly what should worry the stakeholders!

If the fans (housewives or otherwise) were left demanding for a rematch then that would have been a good encounter and extremely good news to stakeholders. As it is now, it will be a nightmare to market Mayweather's September fight. And he is currently the easiest boxer to market!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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