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Where is God in all these?
mv_ufanisi
#41 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:35:31 AM
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Science departs from religion because it's experimentative, based on repeatable observations, thrives on doubt and is quite open to surprises. Religion on the other hand is primarily rote learning such as in madrassas and sunday schools. In science you're encouraged to suspend belief, in religion you're coerced into belief through all kinds of narratives/promises/scare tactics that seem to corroborate an idea.
mv_ufanisi
#42 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:40:25 AM
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The fact of the matter though is that the majority of the world is not smart enough to live without religion. So it is somewhat a necessary evil. The masses need something simple that they can follow and be used to guide their actions. If religion was to be suddenly expunged from the world, there might be mass confusion afterwards. Religion is basically similar to watching a movie, you know it's not really true, but you have to go with it (ie assume that people are actually dying in the flick) in order to enjoy the movie.
tycho
#43 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:46:44 AM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
Science departs from religion because it's experimentative, based on repeatable observations, thrives on doubt and is quite open to surprises. Religion on the other hand is primarily rote learning such as in madrassas and sunday schools. In science you're encouraged to suspend belief, in religion you're coerced into belief through all kinds of narratives/promises/scare tactics that seem to corroborate an idea.


In a way science then becomes a religion of sorts. In fact all of the above characteristics that apply to religion apply to science.

Only that now science is a kind of religion that can be shared across cultures, and new myths may come at a higher turnover.
Tokyo
#44 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:01:49 AM
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Laughing out loudly
Swenani wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
God is a long dead human originally from Middle East. No evidence whatsoever to prove otherwise


You could be right. Your god is dead but Jehovah lives forever.


Where is evidence


The Bible

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Which bible
work to prosper
Swenani
#45 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:19:17 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
Laughing out loudly
Swenani wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
God is a long dead human originally from Middle East. No evidence whatsoever to prove otherwise


You could be right. Your god is dead but Jehovah lives forever.


Where is evidence


The Bible

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Which bible


King James version
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Muriel
#46 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:30:09 AM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
Science departs from religion because it's experimentative, based on repeatable observations, thrives on doubt and is quite open to surprises. Religion on the other hand is primarily rote learning such as in madrassas and sunday schools. In science you're encouraged to suspend belief, in religion you're coerced into belief through all kinds of narratives/promises/scare tactics that seem to corroborate an idea.


You are attempting to divide the inseparable.

In science you are encouraged to suspend belief? I can quite easily take you to task on that and you won't be able to answer at all.

For example, I believe the big bang happened. Am I religious?

mv_ufanisi
#47 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:47:28 AM
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Muriel wrote:
mv_ufanisi wrote:
Science departs from religion because it's experimentative, based on repeatable observations, thrives on doubt and is quite open to surprises. Religion on the other hand is primarily rote learning such as in madrassas and sunday schools. In science you're encouraged to suspend belief, in religion you're coerced into belief through all kinds of narratives/promises/scare tactics that seem to corroborate an idea.


You are attempting to divide the inseparable.

In science you are encouraged to suspend belief? I can quite easily take you to task on that and you won't be able to answer at all.

For example, I believe the big bang happened. Am I religious?


viva la difference

Science: the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
Mike Ock
#48 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 12:00:21 PM
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I don't allow myself to get too worked up about religion.

From my experience most religious people are only casually religious. They only have a passing knowledge of vague summaries of their religious texts, and on a day to day basis, they make their decisions based on circumstance rather than following what their god instructs. Not very different from a non believer.
Muriel
#49 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 12:02:39 PM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
Muriel wrote:
mv_ufanisi wrote:
Science departs from religion because it's experimentative, based on repeatable observations, thrives on doubt and is quite open to surprises. Religion on the other hand is primarily rote learning such as in madrassas and sunday schools. In science you're encouraged to suspend belief, in religion you're coerced into belief through all kinds of narratives/promises/scare tactics that seem to corroborate an idea.


You are attempting to divide the inseparable.

In science you are encouraged to suspend belief? I can quite easily take you to task on that and you won't be able to answer at all.

For example, I believe the big bang happened. Am I religious?


viva la difference

Science: the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.


It seems your object is 'God' and not 'belief'.

I studied what has not yet been rehearsed, observed or recreated by anyone anywhere and now I know, I believe it happened as has been explained.

If I believe in the big bang, I am good to go.
Muriel
#50 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 12:04:11 PM
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Mike Ock wrote:
I don't allow myself to get too worked up about religion.

From my experience most religious people are only casually religious. They only have a passing knowledge of vague summaries of their religious texts, and on a day to day basis, they make their decisions based on circumstance rather than following what their god instructs. Not very different from a non believer.


I agree.
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