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Where is God in all these?
Tokyo
#31 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:06:02 PM
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guru267 wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
God is a long dead human originally from Middle East. No evidence whatsoever to prove otherwise


If what you say is true.. Maybe explain why every tribe and race on the earth prayed to one deity or another?


They were smart enough not to follow religions that killed and enslaved their forefathers
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Tokyo
#32 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:08:26 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
God is a long dead human originally from Middle East. No evidence whatsoever to prove otherwise


You could be right. Your god is dead but Jehovah lives forever.


Where is evidence
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harrydre
#33 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:28:05 PM
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tycho wrote:
muganda wrote:
Hmmn...



Was the one baby 'saved' or 'left behind'? Most of these theistic and atheistic thoughts are so idle and so similar!


http://m.texomashomepage...ed222a19817ad26a937577a
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Swenani
#34 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 8:47:27 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
God is a long dead human originally from Middle East. No evidence whatsoever to prove otherwise


You could be right. Your god is dead but Jehovah lives forever.


Where is evidence


The Bible
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
mv_ufanisi
#35 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 9:29:42 AM
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Religion is just a way to organize society. So don't go looking for God. S/He's just a convenient fit to the puzzle that keeps society running and following certain rules and regulations.
The Bible/Koran that we now quote ad infinitum are just a speck in the dust if you consider our history as Africans living here for a few million years.
Humans maintain a strong desire to believe something - either to explain away the huge unknowns in the world - e.g. what is the moon? or who lives in the moon? or what will tomorrow bring? God becomes a simple and convenient answer. And this is the biggest gripe I have with religion - it has stagnated our scientific progress by giving simple answers to complex questions.
The guys who survive a disaster will usually credit God for saving their lives, but alas the dead men can't talk. And so selective evidence i.e. survivorship bias continues.
Beliefs are very much tied to background and society. So it's perhaps good to believe in something just so you don't have a vacuum in your head.

mv_ufanisi
#36 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 9:40:01 AM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
God is a long dead human originally from Middle East. No evidence whatsoever to prove otherwise

Careful!! Careful!! what you say, Blasphemy is not forgivable.


Assuming that there's a "God" and s/he created you with a brain, why would s/he punish you for using it, asking questions and forming your own opinions? Fear is a great tool to keep the masses unthinking. It's no coincidence that major religions use the fear of a hell to keep people scared. And of course the reward of the thought of a heaven to keep you in line. It benefits society by setting certain behavioral standards but it diminishes the quality of thought and dumbs down the collective intellect when people shut down their thinking and repeat ad infinitum - "this is God's will", "God will bless you", "Only God knows" yada yada

Muriel
#37 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 9:51:21 AM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
God is a long dead human originally from Middle East. No evidence whatsoever to prove otherwise

Careful!! Careful!! what you say, Blasphemy is not forgivable.


Assuming that there's a "God" and s/he created you with a brain, why would s/he punish you for using it, asking questions and forming your own opinions? Fear is a great tool to keep the masses unthinking. It's no coincidence that major religions use the fear of a hell to keep people scared. And of course the reward of the thought of a heaven to keep you in line. It benefits society by setting certain behavioral standards but it diminishes the quality of thought and dumbs down the collective intellect when people shut down their thinking and repeat ad infinitum - "this is God's will", "God will bless you", "Only God knows" yada yada



Fear is not a great tool to keep the masses unthinking.

Capitalism is. Consumerism. That is what dumbs down society intellectually, physically and even morally. 'Scientific' studies are all around showing these things.

We take science seriously, don't we?
tycho
#38 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:03:03 AM
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Science is a way of creating myths without necessarily resorting to a supernatural being or forces. To me it's just an alternative to other mythologies, but not necessarily a superior form of knowing and explaining.
Muriel
#39 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:10:27 AM
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tycho wrote:
Science is a way of creating myths without necessarily resorting to a supernatural being or forces. To me it's just an alternative to other mythologies, but not necessarily a superior form of knowing and explaining.


The other day Larry Madowo commented that his video with Vera Sidika has got a huge number of views more than his other mundane videos. That is a simple observation but 'scientific' nevertheless. It is backed by fact - the numbers.

I would like to know from Mv ufanisi if the consumers of that video and other similar capitalistic endeavours are using their brains, asking questions, forming their own opinions more optimally than say Mr. Francis.

tycho
#40 Posted : Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:30:24 AM
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Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Science is a way of creating myths without necessarily resorting to a supernatural being or forces. To me it's just an alternative to other mythologies, but not necessarily a superior form of knowing and explaining.


The other day Larry Madowo commented that his video with Vera Sidika has got a huge number of views more than his other mundane videos. That is a simple observation but 'scientific' nevertheless. It is backed by fact - the numbers.

I would like to know from Mv ufanisi if the consumers of that video and other similar capitalistic endeavours are using their brains, asking questions, forming their own opinions more optimally than say Mr. Francis.



Okay, am not sure Larry's observation was scientific. Maybe we've been taking science as a fad and forgotten what it is in essence.

Larry might have been spreading ideas on a religion of the big is fertile or something.
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