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kiterunner
#141 Posted : Monday, May 26, 2014 6:23:44 PM
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Would you please share your books (the ebooks)
Many thanks
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Muriel
#142 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:30:11 AM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
Mtu Biz wrote:
Anyone read The atlas shrugged by Ayn Rand ?
I have a pdf copy iam yet to read... deeply conflicting reviews have kept me undecided.


Ayn Rand is the Patron saint of the Conservative crowd. In fact I find it strange that her books have not taken off in Kenya (or it could be we just don't read).

I suggest you read Atlas Shrugged if you. At the very least the story of John Galt will show you the importance of self determination.




Hhhhhmmmmmm ,,,,,,,,, I am beginning to understand Mtu Biz reluctance.

Hello Wakanyugi?
Wakanyugi
#143 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 12:50:56 PM
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Muriel wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Mtu Biz wrote:
Anyone read The atlas shrugged by Ayn Rand ?
I have a pdf copy iam yet to read... deeply conflicting reviews have kept me undecided.


Ayn Rand is the Patron saint of the Conservative crowd. In fact I find it strange that her books have not taken off in Kenya (or it could be we just don't read).

I suggest you read Atlas Shrugged if you. At the very least the story of John Galt will show you the importance of self determination.


Hhhhhmmmmmm ,,,,,,,,, I am beginning to understand Mtu Biz reluctance.

Hello Wakanyugi?


Hello Muriel. We meet again. smile

I hope my post does not discourage Mtu Biz from reading Ayn Rand. She had one of the most impressive minds I have ever encountered, even though I disagree with 70% of what she writes.

Maybe a reference to a local disciple might persuade Mtu Biz - Harun Mwau.

He is is the most prominent local adherent of Ayn Rand that I know of. So much so that he has made her thoughts into a personal and business philosophy.

Remember the manifesto of PICK, the political party he founded? Pure Ayn Rand.

I recall the time Mwau was taken to court, I think accused of misusing his powers as Anti Corruption Czar. His key defense, a reprise from 'Atlas Shrugged' was: 'You have no moral authority to pass judgement upon me.'

Unfortunately the judges had not read the book and were rather unimpressed.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Muriel
#144 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:24:18 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Mtu Biz wrote:
Anyone read The atlas shrugged by Ayn Rand ?
I have a pdf copy iam yet to read... deeply conflicting reviews have kept me undecided.


Ayn Rand is the Patron saint of the Conservative crowd. In fact I find it strange that her books have not taken off in Kenya (or it could be we just don't read).

I suggest you read Atlas Shrugged if you. At the very least the story of John Galt will show you the importance of self determination.


Hhhhhmmmmmm ,,,,,,,,, I am beginning to understand Mtu Biz reluctance.

Hello Wakanyugi?


Hello Muriel. We meet again. smile

I hope my post does not discourage Mtu Biz from reading Ayn Rand. She had one of the most impressive minds I have ever encountered, even though I disagree with 70% of what she writes.

Maybe a reference to a local disciple might persuade Mtu Biz - Harun Mwau.

He is is the most prominent local adherent of Ayn Rand that I know of. So much so that he has made her thoughts into a personal and business philosophy.

Remember the manifesto of PICK, the political party he founded? Pure Ayn Rand.

I recall the time Mwau was taken to court, I think accused of misusing his powers as Anti Corruption Czar. His key defense, a reprise from 'Atlas Shrugged' was: 'You have no moral authority to pass judgement upon me.'

Unfortunately the judges had not read the book and were rather unimpressed.



Ah, we meet again Wakanyugi. Nice. Though on unequal terms, for I have also not read any Ayn Rand. This is strange - I kind of get the drift of Mtu Biz hesitance but why do you not agree with Ayn Rand?

On a light note, Mwau's judges impress me. His retort should have been made on a more beffitingly beggarly fashion. lol. From one extreme to the other considering his means.
seppuku
#145 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 3:42:49 PM
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hoodrat wrote:
The monk who sold his ferrari - Robin Sharma.A must read!!


Didn't quite enjoy reading this one. Far too fabulous for my liking. One of my best reads was Mandela's Long Walk to Freedom. Currently reading 50 Economics Ideas You Need to Know by Edmund Conway. If you have never studied economics in your life and want a quick, useful and easy overview of the subject, this is the book you want to read.
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Wakanyugi
#146 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 5:00:56 PM
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Muriel wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Mtu Biz wrote:
Anyone read The atlas shrugged by Ayn Rand ?
I have a pdf copy iam yet to read... deeply conflicting reviews have kept me undecided.


Ayn Rand is the Patron saint of the Conservative crowd. In fact I find it strange that her books have not taken off in Kenya (or it could be we just don't read).

I suggest you read Atlas Shrugged if you. At the very least the story of John Galt will show you the importance of self determination.


Hhhhhmmmmmm ,,,,,,,,, I am beginning to understand Mtu Biz reluctance.

Hello Wakanyugi?


Hello Muriel. We meet again. smile

I hope my post does not discourage Mtu Biz from reading Ayn Rand. She had one of the most impressive minds I have ever encountered, even though I disagree with 70% of what she writes.

Maybe a reference to a local disciple might persuade Mtu Biz - Harun Mwau.

He is is the most prominent local adherent of Ayn Rand that I know of. So much so that he has made her thoughts into a personal and business philosophy.

Remember the manifesto of PICK, the political party he founded? Pure Ayn Rand.

I recall the time Mwau was taken to court, I think accused of misusing his powers as Anti Corruption Czar. His key defense, a reprise from 'Atlas Shrugged' was: 'You have no moral authority to pass judgement upon me.'

Unfortunately the judges had not read the book and were rather unimpressed.



Ah, we meet again Wakanyugi. Nice. Though on unequal terms, for I have also not read any Ayn Rand. This is strange - I kind of get the drift of Mtu Biz hesitance but why do you not agree with Ayn Rand?


My disagreement with Ayn Rand is mostly ideological. I come from a Progressive/liberal background. I believe that in many cases, the needs of the many trump those of the individual.

Rand preaches extreme individualism - where a chosen 'superior' few have the right, it seems, to overlook the welfare of the 'morally/intellectually inferior' majority. Her argument is that it is the superior few from who social progress flows and their course should therefore not be impended in any way (you are familiar with the Conservative trickle down theory).

As mentioned I come from the other extreme, believing that society has an obligation to uplift the weak and any progress made at their expense is morally and economically unjustifiable.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
Muriel
#147 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:24:37 AM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Mtu Biz wrote:
Anyone read The atlas shrugged by Ayn Rand ?
I have a pdf copy iam yet to read... deeply conflicting reviews have kept me undecided.


Ayn Rand is the Patron saint of the Conservative crowd. In fact I find it strange that her books have not taken off in Kenya (or it could be we just don't read).

I suggest you read Atlas Shrugged if you. At the very least the story of John Galt will show you the importance of self determination.


Hhhhhmmmmmm ,,,,,,,,, I am beginning to understand Mtu Biz reluctance.

Hello Wakanyugi?


Hello Muriel. We meet again. smile

I hope my post does not discourage Mtu Biz from reading Ayn Rand. She had one of the most impressive minds I have ever encountered, even though I disagree with 70% of what she writes.

Maybe a reference to a local disciple might persuade Mtu Biz - Harun Mwau.

He is is the most prominent local adherent of Ayn Rand that I know of. So much so that he has made her thoughts into a personal and business philosophy.

Remember the manifesto of PICK, the political party he founded? Pure Ayn Rand.

I recall the time Mwau was taken to court, I think accused of misusing his powers as Anti Corruption Czar. His key defense, a reprise from 'Atlas Shrugged' was: 'You have no moral authority to pass judgement upon me.'

Unfortunately the judges had not read the book and were rather unimpressed.



Ah, we meet again Wakanyugi. Nice. Though on unequal terms, for I have also not read any Ayn Rand. This is strange - I kind of get the drift of Mtu Biz hesitance but why do you not agree with Ayn Rand?


My disagreement with Ayn Rand is mostly ideological. I come from a Progressive/liberal background. I believe that in many cases, the needs of the many trump those of the individual.

Rand preaches extreme individualism - where a chosen 'superior' few have the right, it seems, to overlook the welfare of the 'morally/intellectually inferior' majority. Her argument is that it is the superior few from who social progress flows and their course should therefore not be impended in any way (you are familiar with the Conservative trickle down theory).

As mentioned I come from the other extreme, believing that society has an obligation to uplift the weak and any progress made at their expense is morally and economically unjustifiable.


I see. So she is right and you are left. Both of you extreme, lol. I am somewhat in between. I believe the needs of the many do not trump that of the individual yet the individual, or few, also do not trump the many. That is, extreme tolerance creates fascism when it becomes incorrect to say anything is wrong.

Perhaps now Mtu Biz could tell us what he thinks of Ayn Rand that informs his hesitance.

Wakanyugi
#148 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:53:24 PM
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Muriel wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Mtu Biz wrote:
Anyone read The atlas shrugged by Ayn Rand ?
I have a pdf copy iam yet to read... deeply conflicting reviews have kept me undecided.


Ayn Rand is the Patron saint of the Conservative crowd. In fact I find it strange that her books have not taken off in Kenya (or it could be we just don't read).

I suggest you read Atlas Shrugged if you. At the very least the story of John Galt will show you the importance of self determination.


Hhhhhmmmmmm ,,,,,,,,, I am beginning to understand Mtu Biz reluctance.

Hello Wakanyugi?


Hello Muriel. We meet again. smile

I hope my post does not discourage Mtu Biz from reading Ayn Rand. She had one of the most impressive minds I have ever encountered, even though I disagree with 70% of what she writes.

Maybe a reference to a local disciple might persuade Mtu Biz - Harun Mwau.

He is is the most prominent local adherent of Ayn Rand that I know of. So much so that he has made her thoughts into a personal and business philosophy.

Remember the manifesto of PICK, the political party he founded? Pure Ayn Rand.

I recall the time Mwau was taken to court, I think accused of misusing his powers as Anti Corruption Czar. His key defense, a reprise from 'Atlas Shrugged' was: 'You have no moral authority to pass judgement upon me.'

Unfortunately the judges had not read the book and were rather unimpressed.



Ah, we meet again Wakanyugi. Nice. Though on unequal terms, for I have also not read any Ayn Rand. This is strange - I kind of get the drift of Mtu Biz hesitance but why do you not agree with Ayn Rand?


My disagreement with Ayn Rand is mostly ideological. I come from a Progressive/liberal background. I believe that in many cases, the needs of the many trump those of the individual.

Rand preaches extreme individualism - where a chosen 'superior' few have the right, it seems, to overlook the welfare of the 'morally/intellectually inferior' majority. Her argument is that it is the superior few from who social progress flows and their course should therefore not be impended in any way (you are familiar with the Conservative trickle down theory).

As mentioned I come from the other extreme, believing that society has an obligation to uplift the weak and any progress made at their expense is morally and economically unjustifiable.


I see. So she is right and you are left. Both of you extreme, lol. I am somewhat in between. I believe the needs of the many do not trump that of the individual yet the individual, or few, also do not trump the many. That is, extreme tolerance creates fascism when it becomes incorrect to say anything is wrong.

Perhaps now Mtu Biz could tell us what he thinks of Ayn Rand that informs his hesitance.



I think, taken as a whole, I would describe myself as being in the centre too. But on this issue - individuals versus the people - I am firmly in the far left corner. God would not have made so many of us if he thought only a chosen few have value.

I look foward to hearing where Mtu Biz lies after he has read Ayn Rand, she can be very persuasive.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
kaka2za
#149 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 5:03:07 PM
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I like Ayn Rand books on objectivism. Human beings are motivated by personal greed and that 's why capitalism thrived over socialism!
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Rankaz13
#150 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 8:25:52 PM
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washiku wrote:
Rankaz13 wrote:
Kratos wrote:
Hi all,

Am looking to get children's books for between ages 4 to 12, i don't mind second hand ones as well. Am trying to build up my children's home library collection. Anyone one to point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance.



When I was in class 5, my dad bought me a book that ignited my love for books to this day. The book was called 'The Courage To Dream'. Though I no longer recall who the author was, the story has stuck in my mind all these years.


Is that how you kept the dream of being a doctor alive?


smile smile Not really but it helped to a certain extent. My interest in the medical field came much later. smile
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Wakanyugi
#151 Posted : Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:42:22 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
I like Ayn Rand books on objectivism. Human beings are motivated by personal greed and that 's why capitalism thrived over socialism!


Ha! Objectivism, the comfort of Conservatives everywhere.

Human beings may be motivated by greed, but only up to a point, otherwise we would not have social groups that survive on sharing.

But Capitalism thrives not on human emotions but on markets. Yani for capitalism to stay alive there must be people willing to sell and people willing to buy.

The more people you can uplift to participate in the markets the better for capitalism. Fail to do this and Capitalist systems ultimately collapse from the fatal wound of uncontrolled inequality. In fact it is from such conditions that Marxism was invented and took root.

And there dies Ayn Rand's central argument
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
washiku
#152 Posted : Tuesday, September 23, 2014 9:54:49 AM
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#153 Posted : Saturday, December 20, 2014 8:39:37 PM
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#154 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 11:42:49 AM
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Anybody with an ebook of Ngugi wa Thiong'o "Devil on the cross"?
ole3
#155 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:01:56 PM
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danas10 wrote:
Anybody with an ebook of Ngugi wa Thiong'o "Devil on the cross"?




Shame on you local authors visit bookshop Applause
danas10
#156 Posted : Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:10:05 PM
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ole3 wrote:
danas10 wrote:
Anybody with an ebook of Ngugi wa Thiong'o "Devil on the cross"?




Shame on you local authors visit bookshop Applause


It is not in the bookshops of where i am at right now.
ole3
#157 Posted : Monday, May 04, 2015 9:48:49 PM
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danas10 wrote:
ole3 wrote:
danas10 wrote:
Anybody with an ebook of Ngugi wa Thiong'o "Devil on the cross"?




Shame on you local authors visit bookshop Applause


It is not in the bookshops of where i am at right now.




fyne . . me any fiction novel works for me
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Mukiri
#158 Posted : Monday, May 04, 2015 10:23:29 PM
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#159 Posted : Tuesday, May 05, 2015 1:02:07 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
Anyone with 'Son of a woman'.. or knows where I can get it? Charles Mang'ua

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