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hisah
#111 Posted : Wednesday, April 22, 2015 7:39:24 PM
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NSE20 2015 snapshot. The index is in negative territory for 2015. Reversal on course.

When the bear will be fully reigning, plots for sale will be the in thing as well as dull business news in the mainstream and a very quiet investor forum on wazua with mostly views and limited equity posts being the norm.

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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S.Mutaga III
#112 Posted : Wednesday, April 22, 2015 7:50:15 PM
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hisah wrote:
NSE20 2015 snapshot. The index is in negative territory for 2015.


This may be a bad year to hunt for capital gains, the best one can do is break even if lucky. However, most returns for 2015 will be from dividends, not capital gains, if this trend continues.
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
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mlennyma
#113 Posted : Wednesday, April 22, 2015 8:00:50 PM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
hisah wrote:
NSE20 2015 snapshot. The index is in negative territory for 2015.


This may be a bad year to hunt for capital gains, the best one can do is break even if lucky. However, most returns for 2015 will be from dividends, not capital gains, if this trend continues.

a perfect mountain!!!whats next??
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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S.Mutaga III
#114 Posted : Wednesday, April 22, 2015 8:11:27 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
hisah wrote:
NSE20 2015 snapshot. The index is in negative territory for 2015.


This may be a bad year to hunt for capital gains, the best one can do is break even if lucky. However, most returns for 2015 will be from dividends, not capital gains, if this trend continues.

a perfect mountain!!!whats next??

You either buy growth stocks and dont expect any capital gains this year, perhaps in future, or you wait...then use stocksmaster's 10% dividend yield yardstick to pick stocks. My 2 Zimbabwe dollars.
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
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lochaz-index
#115 Posted : Wednesday, April 22, 2015 8:23:40 PM
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The macro economic outlook simply does not look good. Cost push inflation seems to making a lot of headway especially in the last one month(just pass by your local grocery/retail shop and check out the price changes), the anticipated long rains are failing in some areas considered the bread basket (delayed perhaps? Could be but if not it compounds an existing problem), tea, coffee and tourism are not having the best of returns, the falling oil prices were a bit of a saving grace but am not sure how long that will hold, other currencies for both oil exporters and importers have weakened vs the dollar( kshs also weakening). The euro bond seems to have delayed the inevitable. Cbk guys can work out something to forestall the slide but for how long?
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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Aguytrying
#116 Posted : Thursday, April 23, 2015 3:37:34 PM
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hisah wrote:
mmmakau wrote:
centum @40............not likely

Have you experienced a strong bear market before? Don't under estimate mr market when he's in a bad selling mood. Just like in a strong bull all caution is thrown out the window as the market ignores fundamentals. The same happens in a strong bear as stocks get unbelievably undervalued.


I've been praying for the lightening to strike twice. The last bear to bull was a bit of a learning cycle, but now I know exactly what to do.
Was the Identity of FTSE 15 and 25 ever uncovered. Thats where to hit hard! in a bear
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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mmmakau
#117 Posted : Thursday, April 23, 2015 5:16:56 PM
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hisah wrote:
mmmakau wrote:
centum @40............not likely

Have you experienced a strong bear market before? Don't under estimate mr market when he's in a bad selling mood. Just like in a strong bull all caution is thrown out the window as the market ignores fundamentals. The same happens in a strong bear as stocks get unbelievably undervalued.

yes, i have experienced a bear market before; however centum has too many 'positives' on its side right now to be hit that hard; unless a certain bombshell of bad news hits, i see centum maintaining its current price or even going up
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murchr
#118 Posted : Thursday, April 23, 2015 5:34:35 PM
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mmmakau wrote:
hisah wrote:
mmmakau wrote:
centum @40............not likely

Have you experienced a strong bear market before? Don't under estimate mr market when he's in a bad selling mood. Just like in a strong bull all caution is thrown out the window as the market ignores fundamentals. The same happens in a strong bear as stocks get unbelievably undervalued.

yes, i have experienced a bear market before; however centum has too many 'positives' on its side right now to be hit that hard; unless a certain bombshell of bad news hits, i see centum maintaining its current price or even going up


Mr Market knows nothing about positives. In a bear all fundamentals are thrown down the drain, and the sellers carry the day. A stock has no feelings; it doesnt even know you exist.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Aguytrying
#119 Posted : Thursday, April 23, 2015 10:34:02 PM
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murchr wrote:
mmmakau wrote:
hisah wrote:
mmmakau wrote:
centum @40............not likely

Have you experienced a strong bear market before? Don't under estimate mr market when he's in a bad selling mood. Just like in a strong bull all caution is thrown out the window as the market ignores fundamentals. The same happens in a strong bear as stocks get unbelievably undervalued.

yes, i have experienced a bear market before; however centum has too many 'positives' on its side right now to be hit that hard; unless a certain bombshell of bad news hits, i see centum maintaining its current price or even going up


Mr Market knows nothing about positives. In a bear all fundamentals are thrown down the drain, and the sellers carry the day. A stock has no feelings; it doesnt even know you exist.


Very true. infact due to lack of dividend centum can sink very low in a proper bear market. where news of acquisitions doesn't matter. last bear centum was trading at 13.00 and it took longer to recover than other tier 2's.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Ericsson
#120 Posted : Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:12:22 PM
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Kenya's budget for 2015/2016 has been set at ksh.2.17 trillion;KRA is unable to collect half of that amount.
Government surpasses target for domestic borrowing for 2014/2015.
The revised target for domestic borrowing was Sh118.8 billion,while the net borrowing stood at a massive Sh202.98 billion as at the end of March this year.
Interest rates on the 182-day and 364-day tbill rate is rising.
Shares are bound to experience a slump as investors direct money to fixed income
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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