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tycho wrote:I see the JOKES are coming in fast! Now you are whining about jokes? How can we defeat local terror networks?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:I see the JOKES are coming in fast! Now you are whining about jokes? How can we defeat local terror networks? Whining? Lol. Could you be desperate to involve me in your dancing competitions? Defeat terror networks? Do I even know who or what I am?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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tycho wrote:masukuma wrote:so... just thinking aloud here... why don't we... give these people whatever they are promised in the hereafter here and now? so that it beats the purpose of killing themselves? everyone has a price! If it's about virgins, where do you think we can find them? Can they give me 36Vs in advance? Truth forever on the scaffold Wrong forever on the throne (James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:I see the JOKES are coming in fast! Now you are whining about jokes? How can we defeat local terror networks? Whining? Lol. Could you be desperate to involve me in your dancing competitions? Defeat terror networks? Do I even know who or what I am? You don't know who or what you are? what if it turns out you are a terrorist, with amnesia? Will I be wrong if I want to 'defeat' you?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:I see the JOKES are coming in fast! Now you are whining about jokes? How can we defeat local terror networks? Whining? Lol. Could you be desperate to involve me in your dancing competitions? Defeat terror networks? Do I even know who or what I am? You don't know who or what you are? what if it turns out you are a terrorist, with amnesia? Will I be wrong if I want to 'defeat' you? What if? I don't know what would happen or what it would mean. I don't care whether defeating me is right or wrong. But I'd gladly yield since defeating terrorist networks seems to be an insoluble conundrum to 'you'. Or better still, you can make me the terrorist network and because I'll yield, you can have some rest and; Laugh Laugh Laugh!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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Makali1 wrote:That is a good first step @limanika. Personally, I would prefer to see the govt of Kenya take a more radical, surgical approach. Islam should not only be declared a national disaster, it should be BANNED. That is the only way out. Two, citizens should be allowed to bear arms for self protection. Three, no more mosque building. Islam teaches that all earthy lands belong to Allah and his apostle (Mohammed).
The goal of every true follower of Allah, Mohammed, the Koran/Sura/Hadith is jihad; in order to bring back all lands back to Allah, through the sword if need be. Wherever place Islam dominates, a mosque is built. Islam is very symbolic in nature. After 9/11, they wanted to build a mosque on Ground Zero. Why? As a sign of conquest. In Spain, the Mosque of Cordoba was a Catholic Cathedral, but during the "Golden Age of Islam" it fell to the Muslims. Ditto the Al-aqsa mosque that was built in 688 AD after the second temple of Israel was destroyed by Muslims when they controlled Jerusalem. In the book of Revelation, God considers this Dome of the Rock mosque as the most blasphemous abomination of desolation to His Holiness. Thus saith the Lord, it shall be destroyed at the end of the Tribulation and the 3rd Temple rebuilt. Thereafter, a red heifer shall be offered as a sacrifice to the Lord. But I digress.
Islamic doctrine is simply not compatible with Western civilization. It is a totalitarian, fascist system that cannot coexist with any other civilization. Once the percentage of Islamic adherents passes a certain threshold, that nation will never become majority Christian again.
The problem with us Kenyans is that we think we're different, that it can never happen to us. At this point, it's just a matter of when not IF...Kenya becomes an Islamic State.
Did anyone know that the entire Middle East and North Africa were once majority Christian? What happened? Well, Mohammed spread his religion with the sword and in a matter of a decade or so, the ENTIRE region became Islamic. Present day Turkey used to be called Anatolia and was 100% Christian. It is located in what was known as Asia Minor, where Paul preached the gospel. Where the Seven Church Ages were located. Today, Turkey is only 0.3% Christian. How did that happen? Through forced conversions and jihad.
Egypt used to be a 100% Christian nation, now it’s 90% Muslim. Coptic Christians were driven out and were driven out, persecuted and forcibly converted.
Lebanon after the second world war was Christian, now it is majority Muslim.
So what happened to all the Christians? They were brutalized.
That is the nature of POLITICAL ISLAM. @makali you've raised weighty matters. I have noted most Muslim dominated countries have banned Christianity, none of the Western countries have done similar. My other observation is that in dark ages, Muslims ruled over the world as a collosus, simply because Christians were peasants ( not interested in external affairs ), whereas Muslims were merchants and used to travel widely. The equation only changed with discovery of new route to India as well as discover of America, the economic and military power shifted to west. Recently, As Christian countries become more affluent, they discard religion. Are we likely to see more of Islam going forward and what can we do since banning a whole religion is impossible these days of civil rights?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:I see the JOKES are coming in fast! Now you are whining about jokes? How can we defeat local terror networks? Whining? Lol. Could you be desperate to involve me in your dancing competitions? Defeat terror networks? Do I even know who or what I am? You don't know who or what you are? what if it turns out you are a terrorist, with amnesia? Will I be wrong if I want to 'defeat' you? What if? I don't know what would happen or what it would mean. I don't care whether defeating me is right or wrong. But I'd gladly yield since defeating terrorist networks seems to be an insoluble conundrum to 'you'. Or better still, you can make me the terrorist network and because I'll yield, you can have some rest and; Laugh Laugh Laugh! Laugh Laugh Laugh Nowadays you are slippery! Why does everything have to be about me? Muriel you are desperate, Muriel you have insoluble conondrum, Muriel you can have some rest, Muriel this, Muriel that. Why can't we just love each other?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:I see the JOKES are coming in fast! Now you are whining about jokes? How can we defeat local terror networks? Whining? Lol. Could you be desperate to involve me in your dancing competitions? Defeat terror networks? Do I even know who or what I am? You don't know who or what you are? what if it turns out you are a terrorist, with amnesia? Will I be wrong if I want to 'defeat' you? What if? I don't know what would happen or what it would mean. I don't care whether defeating me is right or wrong. But I'd gladly yield since defeating terrorist networks seems to be an insoluble conundrum to 'you'. Or better still, you can make me the terrorist network and because I'll yield, you can have some rest and; Laugh Laugh Laugh! Laugh Laugh Laugh Nowadays you are slippery! Why does everything have to be about me? Muriel you are desperate, Muriel you have insoluble conondrum, Muriel you can have some rest, Muriel this, Muriel that. Why can't we just love each other? Is everything about Muriel? Am surprised by your observation. Is tycho more slippery than the terrorist network you seek to defeat? Does tycho love you less? Can everything be about tycho?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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limanika wrote:Makali1 wrote:That is a good first step @limanika. Personally, I would prefer to see the govt of Kenya take a more radical, surgical approach. Islam should not only be declared a national disaster, it should be BANNED. That is the only way out. Two, citizens should be allowed to bear arms for self protection. Three, no more mosque building. Islam teaches that all earthy lands belong to Allah and his apostle (Mohammed).
The goal of every true follower of Allah, Mohammed, the Koran/Sura/Hadith is jihad; in order to bring back all lands back to Allah, through the sword if need be. Wherever place Islam dominates, a mosque is built. Islam is very symbolic in nature. After 9/11, they wanted to build a mosque on Ground Zero. Why? As a sign of conquest. In Spain, the Mosque of Cordoba was a Catholic Cathedral, but during the "Golden Age of Islam" it fell to the Muslims. Ditto the Al-aqsa mosque that was built in 688 AD after the second temple of Israel was destroyed by Muslims when they controlled Jerusalem. In the book of Revelation, God considers this Dome of the Rock mosque as the most blasphemous abomination of desolation to His Holiness. Thus saith the Lord, it shall be destroyed at the end of the Tribulation and the 3rd Temple rebuilt. Thereafter, a red heifer shall be offered as a sacrifice to the Lord. But I digress.
Islamic doctrine is simply not compatible with Western civilization. It is a totalitarian, fascist system that cannot coexist with any other civilization. Once the percentage of Islamic adherents passes a certain threshold, that nation will never become majority Christian again.
The problem with us Kenyans is that we think we're different, that it can never happen to us. At this point, it's just a matter of when not IF...Kenya becomes an Islamic State.
Did anyone know that the entire Middle East and North Africa were once majority Christian? What happened? Well, Mohammed spread his religion with the sword and in a matter of a decade or so, the ENTIRE region became Islamic. Present day Turkey used to be called Anatolia and was 100% Christian. It is located in what was known as Asia Minor, where Paul preached the gospel. Where the Seven Church Ages were located. Today, Turkey is only 0.3% Christian. How did that happen? Through forced conversions and jihad.
Egypt used to be a 100% Christian nation, now it’s 90% Muslim. Coptic Christians were driven out and were driven out, persecuted and forcibly converted.
Lebanon after the second world war was Christian, now it is majority Muslim.
So what happened to all the Christians? They were brutalized.
That is the nature of POLITICAL ISLAM. @makali you've raised weighty matters. I have noted most Muslim dominated countries have banned Christianity, none of the Western countries have done similar. My other observation is that in dark ages, Muslims ruled over the world as a collosus, simply because Christians were peasants ( not interested in external affairs ), whereas Muslims were merchants and used to travel widely. The equation only changed with discovery of new route to India as well as discover of America, the economic and military power shifted to west. Recently, As Christian countries become more affluent, they discard religion. Are we likely to see more of Islam going forward and what can we do since banning a whole religion is impossible these days of civil rights? I opine that the world is gone too far down the road to turn back. The discarding of one mindset that was had has allowed another mindset to thrive and is currently threatening to overthrow the old one. I think we are likely to see more of Islam going forward.
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