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Political and Militant Islam
tycho
#11 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 10:41:17 AM
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masukuma wrote:
of course everyone knows that Islam is a well thought out political system. It was tested and tweaked and tested and tweaked before Moha went the way of his fathers. The reason Christianity can never compare is because the authorities of the christian faith we murdered while it was still in it's ideological stage.
That thing about turning the other cheek cannot work ad infinitum! actually that is why common law was setup by akina aquinas


Is this true? Who were these Christian founders who died prematurely?
Muriel
#12 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 10:51:07 AM
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Swenani wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Hhhhmmmmm.

There was a time I pinned down Alphdoti to explain the doctrine of salvation as found in the Qur'an. We are told in Qur'an that Allah 'saved' a boy (Abraham's son) from being sacrificed. My pivot was - Can Allah 'save' someone?

Of course he never answered. He instead went to the CIA, then diverted to Mrs. Hillary Clinton before attempting to clutch at the bible but my leash on his neck, my pivot, held fast. Till today. I have not forgotten.

I am inclined to believe more that Islam is now more political than religious.


Bet even religion(including Christianity) is a political system, your family is a political system,you social life is a political system.


Yet the pivot stands defiant, unchallenged and unhinged.

tycho
#13 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 10:53:53 AM
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Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Hhhhmmmmm.

There was a time I pinned down Alphdoti to explain the doctrine of salvation as found in the Qur'an. We are told in Qur'an that Allah 'saved' a boy (Abraham's son) from being sacrificed. My pivot was - Can Allah 'save' someone?

Of course he never answered. He instead went to the CIA, then diverted to Mrs. Hillary Clinton before attempting to clutch at the bible but my leash on his neck, my pivot, held fast. Till today. I have not forgotten.

I am inclined to believe more that Islam is now more political than religious.


Bet even religion(including Christianity) is a political system, your family is a political system,you social life is a political system.


Yet the pivot stands defiant, unchallenged and unhinged.



What's this 'unchallenged pivot'? And how is it unchallenged?
Muriel
#14 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 10:58:37 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Makali1 wrote:
Religious Islam is defined as doctrine concerned with going to Paradise and avoiding Hell by following the Koran (Allah's words) and the Sunna (Mohammed's words and actions). The part of Islam that deals with the “outsider”, the Kafir, is defined as political Islam. Since so much of the Trilogy (Koran, Sira, Hadith) is about the Kafir, the statistical conclusion is that Islam is primarily a political system, not a religious system.

Mohammed’s success depended on politics, not religion. The Sira, Mohammed’s biography, gives a highly detailed accounting of his rise to power. He preached the religion of Islam for 13 years in Mecca and garnered ONLY 150 followers. He was forced to move to Medina and became a politician and warrior. During the last 9 years of his life, he was involved in an event of violence every 6 weeks. WHEN HE DIED EVERY ARAB WAS A MUSLIM. Mohammed succeeded through politics, not religion.

Islam’s success was 0.3% religion and 99.7% politics at the time of Mohammed’s death, 632 AD.

Politics was almost a thousand times more effective than religion.

This political importance is reflected in the text of the Sira. There are many more pages devoted to a year of jihad than there are devoted to preaching Islam.

The Sira devotes about 5 times as many words to politics than religion on a yearly basis. It gives politics 5 times the coverage because it is that much more important.

Islam’s political nature is also found in the Hadith that devotes 37% of its text to the Kafir.

There would be no Islam today, if it were only a religion. Statistics show that Islamic politics is what brought Islam success, not religion. To say that Islam is the religion of peace misses the point, since the religion is not the core of Islam’s power. It is politics that count, not religion.

The statistical conclusion: Islam is primarily a political ideology.

http://counterjihadrepor...m/category/bill-warner/



AH!!

This hatred nayo!

Did you lose a loved one to Jihad? smile

I'm waiting for my response on what name Christians in Israel call God by?


what's in a name?

Christians in Kenya call him Nyasaye, Ngai, Asis etc. Christian Arabs & Muslim converts (bless them) call him Allah.

There is no salvation by pronunciation. The difference is in the character of this God. Whereas one Allah imagines and lies that he 'saves' and writes even so but yet cannot and does not, the other Allah does.

Hence your question, if it were to be bright, should have been, 'What is the character of the God of the Christians in Israel?'
Muriel
#15 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 11:10:17 AM
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tycho wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Muriel wrote:
Hhhhmmmmm.

There was a time I pinned down Alphdoti to explain the doctrine of salvation as found in the Qur'an. We are told in Qur'an that Allah 'saved' a boy (Abraham's son) from being sacrificed. My pivot was - Can Allah 'save' someone?

Of course he never answered. He instead went to the CIA, then diverted to Mrs. Hillary Clinton before attempting to clutch at the bible but my leash on his neck, my pivot, held fast. Till today. I have not forgotten.

I am inclined to believe more that Islam is now more political than religious.


Bet even religion(including Christianity) is a political system, your family is a political system,you social life is a political system.


Yet the pivot stands defiant, unchallenged and unhinged.



What's this 'unchallenged pivot'? And how is it unchallenged?


Can and does the Allah of Alphdoti offer 'salvation' as he 'saved' the boy?
symbols
#16 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 12:16:49 PM
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symbols
#17 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 1:27:17 PM
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Islam and Islamism

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Islamism is about power: Islamists are obsessed with power to the extent that such obsession becomes pathology. The political mission of Islamists is to establish a Shari-based state, idealized as the only true and genuine expression of Islam.


At War With Whom? A short history of radical Islam

masukuma
#18 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 3:51:19 PM
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tycho wrote:
masukuma wrote:
of course everyone knows that Islam is a well thought out political system. It was tested and tweaked and tested and tweaked before Moha went the way of his fathers. The reason Christianity can never compare is because the authorities of the christian faith we murdered while it was still in it's ideological stage.
That thing about turning the other cheek cannot work ad infinitum! actually that is why common law was setup by akina aquinas


Is this true? Who were these Christian founders who died prematurely?

I think it's only John who lived to a ripe old age - all others were killed by someone.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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