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Political and Militant Islam
symbols
#1 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 2:44:09 AM
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Makali1 wrote:
@AlphDoti, I know your modus operandi of wearing out other Christian wazuans who have posed debate questions regarding Islam.

I'm new here but have read through many religious topics. I have also spent a considerable amount of time researching on Islamic Doctrine. Kwa hivyo, huniwezi. I can smell the taqiyya from 10,000 miles away.

You spew the "tolerant, peaceful" Mecca verses here "for example there's no compulsion in Islam," to make people believe that Islam is peaceful yet you DECEITFULLY leave out the Medina verses which are the true, abrogated Islamic doctrine. The message Mohammed preached in Medina commanding his followers to chop off the heads and fingers of the kafir, deceive them, ambush them, enslave, rape and other atrocities. A true Muslim believes Mohammed was the perfect human being and that all Muslims should aspire to do the works he did.

Stick to the topic. Who mentioned 9/11? I'm talking about SHARIA LAW which is political Islam that outlines the treatment of Kafirs. If you deny Sharia Law then you are also an INFIDEL. But again, I won't be surprised if you deny because the Koran allows you to deceive the kafir.

So do you, or do you not accept SHARIA law as the perfect political system??

Your days of taqiyya, kitman, tawriya, muruna are numbered.



Islam: A Totalitarian Political Theocracy
tycho
#2 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 3:07:55 AM
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@symbols, you describe the political nature of Islam; can you describe the political nature of Christianity?
symbols
#3 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 3:30:49 AM
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tycho wrote:
@symbols, you describe the political nature of Islam; can you describe the political nature of Christianity?


What is political or militant Christianity and what does it have to do with political and militant Islam?
tycho
#4 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 4:37:36 AM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
@symbols, you describe the political nature of Islam; can you describe the political nature of Christianity?


What is political or militant Christianity and what does it have to do with political and militant Islam?


Symbols, have you answered my question? Why do I think you want me to answer for something that I haven't posited? Terms that I don't 'own'?
Makali1
#5 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 7:37:53 AM
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Religious Islam is defined as doctrine concerned with going to Paradise and avoiding Hell by following the Koran (Allah's words) and the Sunna (Mohammed's words and actions). The part of Islam that deals with the “outsider”, the Kafir, is defined as political Islam. Since so much of the Trilogy (Koran, Sira, Hadith) is about the Kafir, the statistical conclusion is that Islam is primarily a political system, not a religious system.

Mohammed’s success depended on politics, not religion. The Sira, Mohammed’s biography, gives a highly detailed accounting of his rise to power. He preached the religion of Islam for 13 years in Mecca and garnered ONLY 150 followers. He was forced to move to Medina and became a politician and warrior. During the last 9 years of his life, he was involved in an event of violence every 6 weeks. WHEN HE DIED EVERY ARAB WAS A MUSLIM. Mohammed succeeded through politics, not religion.

Islam’s success was 0.3% religion and 99.7% politics at the time of Mohammed’s death, 632 AD.

Politics was almost a thousand times more effective than religion.

This political importance is reflected in the text of the Sira. There are many more pages devoted to a year of jihad than there are devoted to preaching Islam.

The Sira devotes about 5 times as many words to politics than religion on a yearly basis. It gives politics 5 times the coverage because it is that much more important.

Islam’s political nature is also found in the Hadith that devotes 37% of its text to the Kafir.

There would be no Islam today, if it were only a religion. Statistics show that Islamic politics is what brought Islam success, not religion. To say that Islam is the religion of peace misses the point, since the religion is not the core of Islam’s power. It is politics that count, not religion.

The statistical conclusion: Islam is primarily a political ideology.

http://counterjihadrepor...m/category/bill-warner/

Makali1
#6 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 7:50:38 AM
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Since Islam is primarily a political system, it would only make sense that it has a legal code. The Islamic legal code is called Shariah, meaning the way.

The source of the Sharia is the Koran and the Sunna (found in the Sira and the Hadith). Since the Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims do not agree on which Hadith to use, they have slightly different Sharia systems. Though they differ in small matters, both Sunni and Shia Sharia law all agree that kafirs are not equal to Muslims under Sharia law.

Sharia law covers all aspects of life, including how a man and woman should have sex, or how a man should beat his wife etc.

The important thing about Sharia law is that it is perfect and sacred. Law based upon democratic process is offensive to Islam because such law is based upon people. Sharia law is based upon the Koran and Mohammed, the only perfect guidance. Therefore, it is an offence to Islam for Muslims to have to live under democratic constitutional law. This is the reason that Muslims want to replace our banking laws with Sharia law and replace our family law with Sharia law.

How they go about achieving this implementation is the definition of JIHAD.

Muriel
#7 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:35:22 AM
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Hhhhmmmmm.

There was a time I pinned down Alphdoti to explain the doctrine of salvation as found in the Qur'an. We are told in Qur'an that Allah 'saved' a boy (Abraham's son) from being sacrificed. My pivot was - Can Allah 'save' someone?

Of course he never answered. He instead went to the CIA, then diverted to Mrs. Hillary Clinton before attempting to clutch at the bible but my leash on his neck, my pivot, held fast. Till today. I have not forgotten.

I am inclined to believe more that Islam is now more political than religious.
Swenani
#8 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:47:27 AM
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Muriel wrote:
Hhhhmmmmm.

There was a time I pinned down Alphdoti to explain the doctrine of salvation as found in the Qur'an. We are told in Qur'an that Allah 'saved' a boy (Abraham's son) from being sacrificed. My pivot was - Can Allah 'save' someone?

Of course he never answered. He instead went to the CIA, then diverted to Mrs. Hillary Clinton before attempting to clutch at the bible but my leash on his neck, my pivot, held fast. Till today. I have not forgotten.

I am inclined to believe more that Islam is now more political than religious.


Bet even religion(including Christianity) is a political system, your family is a political system,you social life is a political system.
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
guru267
#9 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 9:52:49 AM
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Makali1 wrote:
Religious Islam is defined as doctrine concerned with going to Paradise and avoiding Hell by following the Koran (Allah's words) and the Sunna (Mohammed's words and actions). The part of Islam that deals with the “outsider”, the Kafir, is defined as political Islam. Since so much of the Trilogy (Koran, Sira, Hadith) is about the Kafir, the statistical conclusion is that Islam is primarily a political system, not a religious system.

Mohammed’s success depended on politics, not religion. The Sira, Mohammed’s biography, gives a highly detailed accounting of his rise to power. He preached the religion of Islam for 13 years in Mecca and garnered ONLY 150 followers. He was forced to move to Medina and became a politician and warrior. During the last 9 years of his life, he was involved in an event of violence every 6 weeks. WHEN HE DIED EVERY ARAB WAS A MUSLIM. Mohammed succeeded through politics, not religion.

Islam’s success was 0.3% religion and 99.7% politics at the time of Mohammed’s death, 632 AD.

Politics was almost a thousand times more effective than religion.

This political importance is reflected in the text of the Sira. There are many more pages devoted to a year of jihad than there are devoted to preaching Islam.

The Sira devotes about 5 times as many words to politics than religion on a yearly basis. It gives politics 5 times the coverage because it is that much more important.

Islam’s political nature is also found in the Hadith that devotes 37% of its text to the Kafir.

There would be no Islam today, if it were only a religion. Statistics show that Islamic politics is what brought Islam success, not religion. To say that Islam is the religion of peace misses the point, since the religion is not the core of Islam’s power. It is politics that count, not religion.

The statistical conclusion: Islam is primarily a political ideology.

http://counterjihadrepor...m/category/bill-warner/



AH!!

This hatred nayo!

Did you lose a loved one to Jihad? smile

I'm waiting for my response on what name Christians in Israel call God by?
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
masukuma
#10 Posted : Tuesday, April 21, 2015 10:11:41 AM
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of course everyone knows that Islam is a well thought out political system. It was tested and tweaked and tested and tweaked before Moha went the way of his fathers. The reason Christianity can never compare is because the authorities of the christian faith we murdered while it was still in it's ideological stage.
That thing about turning the other cheek cannot work ad infinitum! actually that is why common law was setup by akina aquinas
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