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Gatheuzi
#61 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 7:48:37 AM
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murchr wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
A friend of mine is just concluding selling land that he bought in 2009 at ten times the buying price. But he tells me he has made more in stocks.


I wonder what stock would have made him richer 10 times if he bought it in 2009


Kenya Orchards or Kakuzi.

But on a serious note, suppose you make those seemingly small gains of 15% per trade and you do this repeatedly like 3 times a year, that will be around 52% compounded gains a year.

Over the 6 years period that is a whooping 12 times your original investment. But for this to happen you have to be a pro, a real master of the game.
Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#62 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 8:43:21 AM
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murchr wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
A friend of mine is just concluding selling land that he bought in 2009 at ten times the buying price. But he tells me he has made more in stocks.


I wonder what stock would have made him richer 10 times if he bought it in 2009

The stock gains are from the investments he made prior to 2009 and cummulatively have surpassed his real estate gains to date.
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maka
#63 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 8:48:34 AM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
murchr wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
A friend of mine is just concluding selling land that he bought in 2009 at ten times the buying price. But he tells me he has made more in stocks.


I wonder what stock would have made him richer 10 times if he bought it in 2009

The stock gains are from the investments he made prior to 2009 and cummulatively have surpassed his real estate gains to date.


Let me give an example:in 2003 the KEBS sacco was selling some land hapo mlolongo 280k for an eigth...a transaction done on Monday for the same land was done @ 4.1m...1365% gain...going forward 2027 will the land have gained that much?another 1365% gain I believe not...If I had the same 4.1m I wouldnt have bought land I would have gone for stocks....
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josimar
#64 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 9:32:33 AM
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Let me give an example:in 2003 the KEBS sacco was selling some land hapo mlolongo 280k for an eigth...a transaction done on Monday for the same land was done @ 4.1m...1365% gain...going forward 2027 will the land have gained that much?another 1365% gain I believe not...If I had the same 4.1m I wouldnt have bought land I would have gone for stocks....


The above was inevitable , if You are investing in land for resale then You need to hold on to it
for atleast 5 to 10 Years.
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kaifastus
#65 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 12:18:20 PM
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Open your minds here! You are trading shares courtesy of a few brave pple who decided to set up that business. Suppose Mwangi(and other Equity bank founders) had decided many years ago to invest in a few companies shares.perhaps their returns upto to date cud ave been stellar. however their choice to invest and grow a bizness as we have seen have mind boggling implications to our econ in terms of employment,support to agric and other linkages to various sectors of our economy. It is crazy to even imagine comparing shares trading to owning a RE biz (or any other biz for that matter)! One is as a result of the other.
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Aguytrying
#66 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 12:57:34 PM
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kaifastus wrote:
Open your minds here! You are trading shares courtesy of a few brave pple who decided to set up that business. Suppose Mwangi(and other Equity bank founders) had decided many years ago to invest in a few companies shares.perhaps their returns upto to date cud ave been stellar. however their choice to invest and grow a bizness as we have seen have mind boggling implications to our econ in terms of employment,support to agric and other linkages to various sectors of our economy. It is crazy to even imagine comparing shares trading to owning a RE biz (or any other biz for that matter)! One is as a result of the other.


I for one appreciate the difficulty of running a successful business and that's why I invest in stocks with the brilliant minds.
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sparkly
#67 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 1:33:19 PM
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kaifastus wrote:
Open your minds here! You are trading shares courtesy of a few brave pple who decided to set up that business. Suppose Mwangi(and other Equity bank founders) had decided many years ago to invest in a few companies shares.perhaps their returns upto to date cud ave been stellar. however their choice to invest and grow a bizness as we have seen have mind boggling implications to our econ in terms of employment,support to agric and other linkages to various sectors of our economy. It is crazy to even imagine comparing shares trading to owning a RE biz (or any other biz for that matter)! One is as a result of the other.


Very true. A share is a piece of a business!
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murchr
#68 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2015 2:14:24 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
murchr wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
A friend of mine is just concluding selling land that he bought in 2009 at ten times the buying price. But he tells me he has made more in stocks.


I wonder what stock would have made him richer 10 times if he bought it in 2009

The stock gains are from the investments he made prior to 2009 and cummulatively have surpassed his real estate gains to date.


Depends on WHICH stock, just as it depends on WHERE the Real estate is located.

Some Masai sold me a piece of land in Kitengela for 450K in 2010, 4 years down the line, the price is about 3.5M the temptation to sell is there but the town has grown so much that am now dreaming of developing the land...point is. I have no investment in the NSE that has grown in those leaps and bounds....probably if I got ARM at 18 that would be the case, or Equity just when they introduced the share. Another advantage my land has over the any stock I own is that it does not run the risk of dilution by some overzealous manager. I get to choose what I would do with it.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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guru267
#69 Posted : Saturday, April 18, 2015 4:46:25 AM
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murchr wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
murchr wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
A friend of mine is just concluding selling land that he bought in 2009 at ten times the buying price. But he tells me he has made more in stocks.


I wonder what stock would have made him richer 10 times if he bought it in 2009

The stock gains are from the investments he made prior to 2009 and cummulatively have surpassed his real estate gains to date.


Depends on WHICH stock, just as it depends on WHERE the Real estate is located.

Some Masai sold me a piece of land in Kitengela for 450K in 2010, 4 years down the line, the price is about 3.5M the temptation to sell is there but the town has grown so much that am now dreaming of developing the land...point is. I have no investment in the NSE that has grown in those leaps and bounds....probably if I got ARM at 18 that would be the case, or Equity just when they introduced the share. Another advantage my land has over the any stock I own is that it does not run the risk of dilution by some overzealous manager. I get to choose what I would do with it.


What are the statistics of percentage of fake titles out there versus the percentage of companies on the NSE that have gone bankrupt?
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murchr
#70 Posted : Saturday, April 18, 2015 5:14:48 AM
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guru267 wrote:
murchr wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
murchr wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
A friend of mine is just concluding selling land that he bought in 2009 at ten times the buying price. But he tells me he has made more in stocks.


I wonder what stock would have made him richer 10 times if he bought it in 2009

The stock gains are from the investments he made prior to 2009 and cummulatively have surpassed his real estate gains to date.


Depends on WHICH stock, just as it depends on WHERE the Real estate is located.

Some Masai sold me a piece of land in Kitengela for 450K in 2010, 4 years down the line, the price is about 3.5M the temptation to sell is there but the town has grown so much that am now dreaming of developing the land...point is. I have no investment in the NSE that has grown in those leaps and bounds....probably if I got ARM at 18 that would be the case, or Equity just when they introduced the share. Another advantage my land has over the any stock I own is that it does not run the risk of dilution by some overzealous manager. I get to choose what I would do with it.


What are the statistics of percentage of fake titles out there versus the percentage of companies on the NSE that have gone bankrupt?


The stats favor stocks, but that's not to say that stocks haven't had their nasty experiences. Ask those who bought Mumias at 49/- or that farmer who might have A Baumman etc.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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