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Arunga,a classic case of children raised by single women.
Impunity
#1 Posted : Monday, February 22, 2010 11:23:03 AM
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Thats why we have always reminded our ladies to allow us to marry them and raise the children together.This lifestyle of looking for an impregnator should be resisted at all cost.
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poundfoolish
#2 Posted : Monday, February 22, 2010 11:41:27 AM
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were it not for the pain the mother and family is going thru.. i would have laughed my self off
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#3 Posted : Monday, February 22, 2010 11:49:01 AM
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IMPUNITY is back, lol!!!!
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gogeta
#4 Posted : Monday, February 22, 2010 1:58:29 PM
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@Impunity you have just committed a fallacy. How many cases like the one for Esther have you encountered?..only one i know and that does not give you reason to concluded that what happened was as a result of being brought up by a single Mum.Shame on you
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aemathenge
#5 Posted : Monday, February 22, 2010 2:37:01 PM
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On no you don't!

Whatever happens, keep our Maitus out of this.
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Phaoro
#6 Posted : Monday, February 22, 2010 3:01:26 PM
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@ Impunity

That is a big brush you are painting with.
murenj
#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:04:49 AM
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this is an interesting angle, howbeit significant. yes. research has already shown that girls end up marrying a father figure and vice versa. the parent of the opposite sex acts as a marking scheme for the qualities one looks for in a marriage partner. by spending time with an elderly married couple, ms arunga may be compensating for the ideal family she never had in childhood. these are some of the factors that make people abandon thier families for little known religious organisations........... but what do i see n this forum? people who are afraid to discuss an issue but would rather resort to emotional blackmail to sweep the issue under the carpet
current
#8 Posted : Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:09:30 AM
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It is very unfair for you to conclude that this is as a result of the mother being a single parent. In any case men contribute Highly to women being single parents by refusing to take up responsibilities. In any case Esther is 30 yrs old and we can see that the mother has done a gd job by providing her with gd education. Her mess shold not be blamed on the mother.
atiriri
#9 Posted : Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:19:10 AM
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It is so unfair to judge single mothers harshly. I have seen children who are raised by single mothers and they are role models in the society. Do you want to say that those woman who have abandoned their wifely duties to pray for their dead pastors to ressurect have been brought up by single mothers. Arunga has just been brainwashed, let her stand up for her actions and the mother should not be blamed at all aaaah.
muganda
#10 Posted : Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:45:03 AM
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@murenj, agree with your challenge on single mothers. But definitely not as it relates to Esther - broad strokes, wrong coat, painter without a clue!!!

That is a family of high achievers and professionals, very well brought up kids by both mother and father. Easy to talk about things when they're distant and remote - not personal and close and relating to oneself.



Now about single mothers, not very different from both parents. The mates people choose can always be linked to upbringing / parent's personality in both cases.

I'd assume children brought up by single parent would generally be more responsible due to challenge. But hats off go to single mothers, they do a fab job!!!
Impunity
#11 Posted : Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:46:18 AM
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Huyu Esther ako na some siblings kweli?Like younger siz at say 25 years?
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Intelligentsia
#12 Posted : Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:49:16 AM
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muganda wrote:
But hats off go to single mothers, they do a fab job!!!

In the same vein kudos to single fathers, I have seen them do a fab job too!
Its tough for our sisters being single women, nobody says XYZ turned out like this or that because he/ she was raised by a single dad!!


poundfoolish
#13 Posted : Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:52:07 AM
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lets face it... In general from my observations(where i live and schoolmates) Most,BUT NOT ALL, children brought up by one parent are hazardous to society.. more so worse if brought up by single mother...
lest anybody mention Barak Obama in defence.. the mother remarried
bkismat
#14 Posted : Tuesday, February 23, 2010 8:48:49 AM
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and its worse when its a single child coz the mum's world revolves around him/her. in the end they think the whole world should treat them the same.
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
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gathinga
#15 Posted : Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:01:02 AM
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I lean towards those who say kids brought up by single mothers have a problem. Chicks especially who have, from their childhood, never encountered a man's way of doing things find it quite hard to adopt. They grew up being pampered and have probably never known the word 'no' said with authority. Woe unto any dude who dates them...from experience, its a nightmare even to make decisions with them.

Dudes brought up by single mothers are spoilt and irresponsible. Many are known not to take responsibility (living with mom till 40) and may exhibit strong affinity for relationships where the woman is the provider. Initially, they may be very attractive to date for women coz they're basically very girly and will not exert control in a relationship. The downside comes when bread has to be put on the table or when hard decisions have to be made....the dudes will simply be quite slippery

In the end, I also believe that someones individual nature contributes significantly to their xter and therefore upbringing contributes only a fraction

Ray
#16 Posted : Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:02:22 PM
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Just because you come from a single family is not an excuse to be irresponsible.Matheri came from a nuclear family and he was a criminal.It's the high time men learn to take responsibility and acknowledge their children even those that are as a result of their extra marital affairs / sexual escapades.To all single women out there Hat's off.
@ Impunity - R u married?
mukaju
#17 Posted : Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:45:12 PM
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Single parents do a great job,be more careful with conclusions
Pierce
#18 Posted : Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:34:54 PM
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Mukaju........I agree with you fully
Phaoro
#19 Posted : Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:51:10 PM
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You can be raised by both parents who are jackasses and still turn out to be a melon so your logic of blaming single parenting does not fly.
Intelligentsia
#20 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2010 6:47:12 AM
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Just to clear the air, know ye all men that:

- Esther's dad is alive. She was therefore brought up in a 2-parent/nuclear family home,
- Esther is actually Luo,not Luhya.
- Esther is the only girl of the 3 kids her parents had; one of her bros works as a medical officer in a referral hosi in Kenya.
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