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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,078 Location: Nairobi
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The pilots and crew of KQ have no skin in the game. They will kill the goose that has been laying golden eggs for it. The Board, Management & Staff in KQ are screwing the shareholders. Pole sana. http://www.businessdaily...6/-/u8q9yez/-/index.htmlGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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VituVingiSana wrote:China Southern to fly to Nairobi 3x week http://www.businessdaily.../-/frt8xvz/-/index.html
Does this help or hurt KQ? One can fly daily to Guangzhou since they code-share but it also means some passengers (esp the Chinese) can shift their allegiance to China Southern. Effectively, this will cut into KQ's exclusivity on this route. The other side of the coin (comments section) Quote:james • 5 hours ago
Our media is always negative!!!! They are not travelled and think competition alone makes all. Do they know what a hub means? A hub creates more business for Dubai, Heathrow etc more than what their specific airlines make. More travellers to Kenya and Nairobi for that matter means more business...Now we want some international Chinese hotels in Nairobi.
dratura09 • 11 hours ago
The media need to employ aviation journalists who can understand aviation matters. The entry of China Southern, which in 2014 carried over 100million passengers, will mean KQ will reap big time as all the 300 passengers coming daily majority will transit to connecting flights within Africa operated by Kenya Airways and without CS landing in Nairobi, they will probably connect via Jo'burg, Cairo or Europe and fly SAA or MS. Nairobi will be China gateway to Africa, KQ WINS BIG. Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,078 Location: Nairobi
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Do KQ's NBO - Guangzhou flights fly full? If yes, then the addition of China Southern will be a plus as KQ can sell more seats. If no, then it could be a problem as passengers have a choice between KQ or CS. Too bad KQ cannot use its 777 to fly another Chinese/Asian route. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/14/2011 Posts: 661
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@VVS, you earlier pointed at the problem of having very a strong union in post 1414. .. never invest in a firm where unionized employees can bend you over at will and have their way..
And KQ's employees aren't shareholders either. they are in it for the cash not growth or ownership...and now the union demands will definitely hinder management from taking optimal business decisions, from the article the union (KALPA) wants to be consulted.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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Gordon Gekko wrote:Impunity wrote:Hogwash reporting from the said @cheerleader... C&P Quote:The competition is now parked
in Kenya Airways backyard. This
week I was in Dubai and I noted
the Emirates flight was full and
carrying more than 400 passengers. Kenya Airways uplifted less
than 40 passengers on the very
same day. Fourty passengers on
a Dreamliner is a loss! Plain and
simple From the Emirates website, they dont have any airplane with a capacity of over 400 pax except the Airbus 380. Now they dont fly such type of airplane into Nairobi.  Emirates equipment on nbo route is 773. Can seat 450 in two class config. BTW 773 can do 500. I will dig in deep BUT I dont think Emirates has any of its aircraft configured in two classes...theirs is always three classes...two classes are for the poor! Let me check further! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,487 Location: nairobi
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just jetted into Nairobi and I counted 11 KQ planes lying around.. I hope that they are scheduled for take off sometime today.. Otherwise, there is a problem since that forms about a third of its entire fleet
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,078 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:just jetted into Nairobi and I counted 11 KQ planes lying around.. I hope that they are scheduled for take off sometime today.. Otherwise, there is a problem since that forms about a third of its entire fleet They were waiting for their #3 shareholder behind GoK and KLM. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:just jetted into Nairobi and I counted 11 KQ planes lying around.. I hope that they are scheduled for take off sometime today.. Otherwise, there is a problem since that forms about a third of its entire fleet They were waiting for their #3 shareholder behind GoK and KLM. lol  Anyway they have been having a slight problem after changing their flight schedule...am telling you the guys enjoying are the hotel fellows. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/13/2014 Posts: 386 Location: Denmark
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:just jetted into Nairobi and I counted 11 KQ planes lying around.. I hope that they are scheduled for take off sometime today.. Otherwise, there is a problem since that forms about a third of its entire fleet They were waiting for their #3 shareholder behind GoK and KLM. lol .and that must be none other than the prophet himself Seeing is believing
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/28/2006 Posts: 1,799
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jawgey wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:just jetted into Nairobi and I counted 11 KQ planes lying around.. I hope that they are scheduled for take off sometime today.. Otherwise, there is a problem since that forms about a third of its entire fleet They were waiting for their #3 shareholder behind GoK and KLM. lol .and that must be none other than the prophet himself am sure he was flying emirates..... 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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chemos wrote:jawgey wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:just jetted into Nairobi and I counted 11 KQ planes lying around.. I hope that they are scheduled for take off sometime today.. Otherwise, there is a problem since that forms about a third of its entire fleet They were waiting for their #3 shareholder behind GoK and KLM. lol .and that must be none other than the prophet himself am sure he was flying emirates..... Naah, free ride on 5Y-POL. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 10/13/2014 Posts: 28
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Kenya Airways has emerged as a big loser with the launch of China Southern Airlines’ direct flights from Nairobi to Guangzhou. BD
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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I don't know what is all the fuss about China Southern joining the market. I beseech all ye wazuans to go to your local grocery market today and learn a few basics about business and perhaps wake up to the reality of doing business. What i mean is, if you visit the market today you will realise almost everyone is selling the same things e.g., nyanya, kitungulu, sukuma wiki etc. Some mama mbogas have loyal customers who buy from them daily, some have upped their game to win/poach customers by maybe selling quality fresh products,offering discounts etc.At the end of the day everyone must sell and take some money home. In short there must be competition in business. Top management in KQ draw hefty salos and it is their job to think and come up with ways to gain a competitive edge in the market. They can start serving fufu and pepe soup in large quantities for all i care to attract the ogas who are the main source of business on this route.They can even serve ugali/pap if that will give them an edge. The idea of opening a booking office in river rori was in my opinion brilliant. One in Eastleigh would not be bad either.....what about cargo from China etc I pick my cargo from China in Easich. The cargo plane is owned by businessmen from Easich and they dont disappoint. In other news this RINK offers great opportunities for KQ Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/14/2011 Posts: 661
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maka wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:just jetted into Nairobi and I counted 11 KQ planes lying around.. I hope that they are scheduled for take off sometime today.. Otherwise, there is a problem since that forms about a third of its entire fleet They were waiting for their #3 shareholder behind GoK and KLM. lol Anyway they have been having a slight problem after changing their flight schedule...am telling you the guys enjoying are the hotel fellows. Pilots, the #3 shareholder in the order.... GoK, KLM, KALPA...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,905
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Qualitative feedback:
2hr 40m flight from Zambia to Kenya
(hoping passengers experience at JKIA on arrival was more pleasant)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,487 Location: nairobi
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muganda wrote:Qualitative feedback:
2hr 40m flight from Zambia to Kenya
(hoping passengers experience at JKIA on arrival was more pleasant)
That meal is sufficient for a short flight..
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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obiero wrote:muganda wrote:Qualitative feedback:
2hr 40m flight from Zambia to Kenya
(hoping passengers experience at JKIA on arrival was more pleasant)
That meal is sufficient for a short flight.. Enough for A NORMAL person! Reminds me of that Hungry Sudanese who ate, wasn't satisfied and was banned for threatening to eat a hostess. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:Accusations, counter-accusations. Denials. Lame-duck attacks, dossiers, qoutes, misquotes - who is fooling who? Does KQ really make the cut? Quote:"We will look at other acquisitions of airlines but we look at airlines that don't take the resources of Qatar, or attention of Qatar management, to fix issues. We will always go after goldsmiths, not scrap dealers." Quote:Three major U.S. airlines claim in a recent 55-page dossier sent to U.S. government officials and lawmakers that Gulf carriers received $40 billion in subsidies and want the Obama administration to renegotiate Open Skies agreements
Gulf carriers deny receiving subsidies.
Al Baker challenged the U.S. airlines to publish their allegations and accused them of receiving "backdoor subsidies" through Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. http://in.reuters.com/ar...s-idINKBN0M01DO20150304
This has to be the Mayweather & Pacman of Aviation! This will be interesting... CAPA hosts major US-Gulf airline debate; Emirates, Etihad, American, Delta, FedEx, pilots, tourismQuote:CAPA will host the largest and most complete public debate on the US-Gulf airlines confrontation, including the major proponents in a moderated discussion over two hours.
The debate, part of CAPA's Americas Aviation Summit in Las Vegas on 27/28 April, will span 2 hours, under the expert guidance of leading US aviation lawyer, Pillsburys' Kenneth P Quinn.
http://centreforaviation...ex-pilots-tourism-220150
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:Cde Monomotapa wrote:Accusations, counter-accusations. Denials. Lame-duck attacks, dossiers, qoutes, misquotes - who is fooling who? Does KQ really make the cut? Quote:"We will look at other acquisitions of airlines but we look at airlines that don't take the resources of Qatar, or attention of Qatar management, to fix issues. We will always go after goldsmiths, not scrap dealers." Quote:Three major U.S. airlines claim in a recent 55-page dossier sent to U.S. government officials and lawmakers that Gulf carriers received $40 billion in subsidies and want the Obama administration to renegotiate Open Skies agreements
Gulf carriers deny receiving subsidies.
Al Baker challenged the U.S. airlines to publish their allegations and accused them of receiving "backdoor subsidies" through Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. http://in.reuters.com/ar...s-idINKBN0M01DO20150304
This has to be the Mayweather & Pacman of Aviation! This will be interesting... CAPA hosts major US-Gulf airline debate; Emirates, Etihad, American, Delta, FedEx, pilots, tourismQuote:CAPA will host the largest and most complete public debate on the US-Gulf airlines confrontation, including the major proponents in a moderated discussion over two hours.
The debate, part of CAPA's Americas Aviation Summit in Las Vegas on 27/28 April, will span 2 hours, under the expert guidance of leading US aviation lawyer, Pillsburys' Kenneth P Quinn.
http://centreforaviation...x-pilots-tourism-220150 That debate will be action packed. Hope it doesn't spill outside the ring.$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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