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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:tycho wrote:Symbols, even being tycho is political. Humanity is politics.
The big question is that of what kind of politics? Corruptive politics? Or otherwise? Big according to who? Isn't that a political view? tycho wrote:'X' are humans killing or that cherish killing other humans: what's the best response to them? There can only be one answer. Remind them of what humanity is about. Even by embracing death and suffering.
The answer to corruption isn't corruption but 'salvation'. So it doesn't matter what the Koran or the Bible or the Gita says. At any instance the politics of being human override any other issues. Where does the political view of what humanity is or should be come from and what makes it the only answer? Unfortunately,your political view undermines itself. 'Big' to ALL humans. And yes that's a political view. It's the only answer because it retains humanity. The political view must undermine itself inorder to be effective. So it's far from being 'unfortunate'.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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symbols wrote:@AlphDoti - http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...sts&t=31086&p=3
This is a verse you like to quote to bolster the peaceful image of Islam. 5:32 wrote:
For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty), but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth.
So as we discuss KDF in Somalia and corruption in Kenya explain how a Muslim is supposed to follow the peaceful part you like to highlight and not the violent part. I have just seen something. In the mindset of the writer, when he was writing this verse what did he have in mind when using the words 'corruption in the earth'? I tend to think he was not thinking of giving a police man a bribe of ksh. 1,000 bank note to allow transit from Garissa to Nairobi. By any chance does being zalimun & kafirun constitute 'corruption in the earth'? If so, then who ever can be put in that category is finished. That verse will not protect them for it talks about Allah's sovereignty! So much for 'peace'.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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alma wrote:I've said enough for a long time to come.
I'm so bitter about all this I have no more words.
I wrote even during Westgate the very same things.
Corruption will kill your child. You will find it easy to blame a religion or some madman but the truth is, Kenyans are so corrupt they don't care anymore.
That's why the cop will take your 20 bob in your car and then go drive a bomb into a building. In the meantime, you will bring your stupid religions and say how nice you are.
You know in your hearts that someone was corrupted and got a big pay day for this to happen. I hope you choke on the beer he buys you on Furahiday.
Ni hayo tu. When the terrorists come for you at the "mall", the "bus" or "university", the only thing that will save your sorry a.ss is reciting the "Shahada". Everything else is nonsense. Instead of you payukaring here for days on end, sijui corruption bla bla bla, read and memorise the damn shahada. It's the only thing that will save your life when they come for you.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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jaggernaut wrote:alma wrote:I've said enough for a long time to come.
I'm so bitter about all this I have no more words.
I wrote even during Westgate the very same things.
Corruption will kill your child. You will find it easy to blame a religion or some madman but the truth is, Kenyans are so corrupt they don't care anymore.
That's why the cop will take your 20 bob in your car and then go drive a bomb into a building. In the meantime, you will bring your stupid religions and say how nice you are.
You know in your hearts that someone was corrupted and got a big pay day for this to happen. I hope you choke on the beer he buys you on Furahiday.
Ni hayo tu. When the terrorists come for you at the "mall", the "bus" or "university", the only thing that will save your sorry a.ss is reciting the "Shahada". Everything else is nonsense. Instead of you payukaring here for days on end, sijui corruption bla bla bla, read and memorise the damn shahada. It's the only thing that will save your life when they come for you. Not being shot isn't saving your life. One can be shot dead and still save his life.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:Symbols, even being tycho is political. Humanity is politics.
The big question is that of what kind of politics? Corruptive politics? Or otherwise? Big according to who? Isn't that a political view? tycho wrote:'X' are humans killing or that cherish killing other humans: what's the best response to them? There can only be one answer. Remind them of what humanity is about. Even by embracing death and suffering.
The answer to corruption isn't corruption but 'salvation'. So it doesn't matter what the Koran or the Bible or the Gita says. At any instance the politics of being human override any other issues. Where does the political view of what humanity is or should be come from and what makes it the only answer? Unfortunately,your political view undermines itself. 'Big' to ALL humans. And yes that's a political view. It's the only answer because it retains humanity. The political view must undermine itself inorder to be effective. So it's far from being 'unfortunate'. If humanity is politics and your answer is meant to retain humanity,does that mean we have to maintain corruptive politics or just the politics that's favorable and or enforced?
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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jaggernaut wrote:alma wrote:I've said enough for a long time to come.
I'm so bitter about all this I have no more words.
I wrote even during Westgate the very same things.
Corruption will kill your child. You will find it easy to blame a religion or some madman but the truth is, Kenyans are so corrupt they don't care anymore.
That's why the cop will take your 20 bob in your car and then go drive a bomb into a building. In the meantime, you will bring your stupid religions and say how nice you are.
You know in your hearts that someone was corrupted and got a big pay day for this to happen. I hope you choke on the beer he buys you on Furahiday.
Ni hayo tu. When the terrorists come for you at the "mall", the "bus" or "university", the only thing that will save your sorry a.ss is reciting the "Shahada". Everything else is nonsense. Instead of you payukaring here for days on end, sijui corruption bla bla bla, read and memorise the damn shahada. It's the only thing that will save your life when they come for you.  If they ask you to recite a verse in Quran, just say PBUY! If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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jaggernaut wrote:alma wrote:I've said enough for a long time to come.
I'm so bitter about all this I have no more words.
I wrote even during Westgate the very same things.
Corruption will kill your child. You will find it easy to blame a religion or some madman but the truth is, Kenyans are so corrupt they don't care anymore.
That's why the cop will take your 20 bob in your car and then go drive a bomb into a building. In the meantime, you will bring your stupid religions and say how nice you are.
You know in your hearts that someone was corrupted and got a big pay day for this to happen. I hope you choke on the beer he buys you on Furahiday.
Ni hayo tu. When the terrorists come for you at the "mall", the "bus" or "university", the only thing that will save your sorry a.ss is reciting the "Shahada". Everything else is nonsense. Instead of you payukaring here for days on end, sijui corruption bla bla bla, read and memorise the damn shahada. It's the only thing that will save your life when they come for you. Where can I get this shahada verse from?  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:jaggernaut wrote:alma wrote:I've said enough for a long time to come.
I'm so bitter about all this I have no more words.
I wrote even during Westgate the very same things.
Corruption will kill your child. You will find it easy to blame a religion or some madman but the truth is, Kenyans are so corrupt they don't care anymore.
That's why the cop will take your 20 bob in your car and then go drive a bomb into a building. In the meantime, you will bring your stupid religions and say how nice you are.
You know in your hearts that someone was corrupted and got a big pay day for this to happen. I hope you choke on the beer he buys you on Furahiday.
Ni hayo tu. When the terrorists come for you at the "mall", the "bus" or "university", the only thing that will save your sorry a.ss is reciting the "Shahada". Everything else is nonsense. Instead of you payukaring here for days on end, sijui corruption bla bla bla, read and memorise the damn shahada. It's the only thing that will save your life when they come for you. Where can I get this shahada verse from? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Kalimaspossunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Impunity wrote:jaggernaut wrote:alma wrote:I've said enough for a long time to come.
I'm so bitter about all this I have no more words.
I wrote even during Westgate the very same things.
Corruption will kill your child. You will find it easy to blame a religion or some madman but the truth is, Kenyans are so corrupt they don't care anymore.
That's why the cop will take your 20 bob in your car and then go drive a bomb into a building. In the meantime, you will bring your stupid religions and say how nice you are.
You know in your hearts that someone was corrupted and got a big pay day for this to happen. I hope you choke on the beer he buys you on Furahiday.
Ni hayo tu. When the terrorists come for you at the "mall", the "bus" or "university", the only thing that will save your sorry a.ss is reciting the "Shahada". Everything else is nonsense. Instead of you payukaring here for days on end, sijui corruption bla bla bla, read and memorise the damn shahada. It's the only thing that will save your life when they come for you. Where can I get this shahada verse from? I thought you already have a shahada in welding? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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