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murchr wrote:Torio wrote:
[quote=Torio]Kibaki may appear to have grown the economy when you look at the GDP, but when you factor in inflation, and the impact of population growth his "accomplishments" are unimpressive. Per capita output in Kenya rose from ~1000 to 1500 between 1964 and 2012. During Kibaki's tenure, the rise was barely $200. Very unimpressive given the inflation.
Now this ^^^^ is total yap...are you the only wazuan who doesnt know that the Kenyan economy esp the per capita regressed? Before you yap here do some research please Guess I might be the only one unaware ... which would be surprising as Kibaki seems to be highly regraded here.
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nakujua wrote:[quote=Torio]
But back to the point, would you care to elaborate what is this specific human capital that you have made reference to several times, lacking in Africa in particular Kenya but available among the tiger chaps especially Singapore. Nothing but the Wikipedia definition: the stock of knowledge, habits, social and personality attributes, including creativity, embodied in the ability to perform labor so as to produce economic value. First, our scientific (technical) knowledge base is weak, and we seem to have a poor drive to change this. Cases in point: non-mechanized/un-scientific agriculture, the jua kali sector and a regressing tertiary education system. Extreme religiosity and a host of isms compound the problem.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Torio wrote:nakujua wrote:[quote=Torio]
But back to the point, would you care to elaborate what is this specific human capital that you have made reference to several times, lacking in Africa in particular Kenya but available among the tiger chaps especially Singapore. Nothing but the Wikipedia definition: the stock of knowledge, habits, social and personality attributes, including creativity, embodied in the ability to perform labor so as to produce economic value. First, our scientific (technical) knowledge base is weak, and we seem to have a poor drive to change this. Cases in point: non-mechanized/un-scientific agriculture, the jua kali sector and a regressing tertiary education system. Extreme religiosity and a host of isms compound the problem. Hapo sawa, so its basically poor leadership that pulled Kenya back as compared to Singapore
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/28/2015 Posts: 10
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nakujua wrote:[quote=Torio][quote=nakujua][quote=Torio]
Hapo sawa, so its basically poor leadership that pulled Kenya back as compared to Singapore
Hapana si sawa. Leadership is just one small bit of it.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/15/2015 Posts: 681 Location: Kenya
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Torio wrote:nakujua wrote:[quote=Torio][quote=nakujua][quote=Torio]
Hapo sawa, so its basically poor leadership that pulled Kenya back as compared to Singapore
Hapana si sawa. Leadership is just one small bit of it. Tario I support.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Torio wrote:nakujua wrote:[quote=Torio][quote=nakujua][quote=Torio]
Hapo sawa, so its basically poor leadership that pulled Kenya back as compared to Singapore
Hapana si sawa. Leadership is just one small bit of it.  so human capital (as defined on Wikipedia) is number one, the port number two, some other stuff then, Lee yee/ arap moi just a tinny little bit. hapo ni sawa.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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nakujua wrote:Torio wrote:nakujua wrote:[quote=Torio][quote=nakujua][quote=Torio]
Hapo sawa, so its basically poor leadership that pulled Kenya back as compared to Singapore
Hapana si sawa. Leadership is just one small bit of it. so human capital (as defined on Wikipedia) is number one, the port number two, some other stuff then, Lee yee/ arap moi just a tinny little bit. hapo ni sawa. In simple terms he's saying that the "African" IQ is lower that that of the Asian thus the difference. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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murchr wrote:nakujua wrote:Torio wrote:nakujua wrote:[quote=Torio][quote=nakujua][quote=Torio]
Hapo sawa, so its basically poor leadership that pulled Kenya back as compared to Singapore
Hapana si sawa. Leadership is just one small bit of it. so human capital (as defined on Wikipedia) is number one, the port number two, some other stuff then, Lee yee/ arap moi just a tinny little bit. hapo ni sawa. In simple terms he's saying that the "African" IQ is lower that that of the Asian thus the difference. Hapo sawa, I guess then we africans especially kenyans were not born with the creative capacity nor the ability to perform meaningful labor to produce economic value. 
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nakujua wrote:murchr wrote:nakujua wrote:Torio wrote:nakujua wrote:[quote=Torio][quote=nakujua][quote=Torio]
Hapo sawa, so its basically poor leadership that pulled Kenya back as compared to Singapore
Hapana si sawa. Leadership is just one small bit of it. so human capital (as defined on Wikipedia) is number one, the port number two, some other stuff then, Lee yee/ arap moi just a tinny little bit. hapo ni sawa. In simple terms he's saying that the "African" IQ is lower that that of the Asian thus the difference. Hapo sawa, I guess then we africans especially kenyans were not born with the creative capacity nor the ability to perform meaningful labor to produce economic value. The Bell curve is a fact of life. The blacks on average score 85 per cent on IQ and it is accurate, nothing to do with culture. The whites score on average 100. Asians score more … the Bell curve authors put it at least 10 points higher. These are realities that, if you do not accept, will lead to frustration because you will be spending money on wrong assumptions and the results cannot follow. Lee Kuan Yew, The Man & His Ideas, 1997
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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timbosho wrote:nakujua wrote:murchr wrote:nakujua wrote:Torio wrote:nakujua wrote:[quote=Torio][quote=nakujua][quote=Torio]
Hapo sawa, so its basically poor leadership that pulled Kenya back as compared to Singapore
Hapana si sawa. Leadership is just one small bit of it. so human capital (as defined on Wikipedia) is number one, the port number two, some other stuff then, Lee yee/ arap moi just a tinny little bit. hapo ni sawa. In simple terms he's saying that the "African" IQ is lower that that of the Asian thus the difference. Hapo sawa, I guess then we africans especially kenyans were not born with the creative capacity nor the ability to perform meaningful labor to produce economic value. The Bell curve is a fact of life. The blacks on average score 85 per cent on IQ and it is accurate, nothing to do with culture. The whites score on average 100. Asians score more … the Bell curve authors put it at least 10 points higher. These are realities that, if you do not accept, will lead to frustration because you will be spending money on wrong assumptions and the results cannot follow. Lee Kuan Yew, The Man & His Ideas, 1997 Hapo sawa timbosho, ndivyo nilikubaliana na torio , sisi wamiliki wa ngozi nyeusi huzaliwa na kiwango kikubwa sana cha ujinga, na ukosefu wa akili.
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