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Tax puzzle.
Kamaa
#1 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2010 8:02:28 AM
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Good people, help out!

There is Company A & B.
Company A owns 67.5% of company B.
Company A is owned by 7 foreign investors (each of the five shareholders owns 16%, the other two owns 12% & 8% respectively). All of them are Kenyan residents.

Company B, Pays dividend of Kshs. 100M thus company A receives 67.5M. It retains 37.5M and pays dividend of 30M to its shareholders.

What is the tax due on company A, B and the 7 investors?

Kindly assist.
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muganda
#2 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2010 8:38:00 AM
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Let me try assist... Wazuans correct where I lie too much.

Company A supposed to pay 30% corporate tax before dividends. Further, company A should submit 5% withholding tax for any dividends paid to their shareholders holding less than 12.5% of shares.

Company B will receive dividend income and has to show this in its Profit & Loss. Company B needs to pay 30% corporate tax - dividend income excluded in calculating taxable income.
In distributing dividends, 5% withholding tax withheld for shareholders with less than 12.5%


Since all investors are Kenyan residents, they'll be required to file their self-assessment returns. If your 5% was withheld, requisite form attached with return to offset your obligations.

If no amount was withheld, dividend income shown on self-assessment return and netted off from allowable expenses to determine what 'balance of tax' you owe.
VituVingiSana
#3 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2010 8:54:36 AM
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@muganda - In the case of Company B... Why wouldn't the final dividend distribution to shareholders owning above 12.5% have W/tax withheld?
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Kamaa
#4 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2010 9:21:40 AM
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well, i don't know whether i am wrong (that's why i sought for your opinions) but this is my take.

Company B: dividend expense (100M) is paid out of profit after tax.
since it's paying corporates owning over 12.5% then NO w/tax.

Company A: Dividend income (67.5M) is qualifying dividend thus not taxable.
Upon re-distributing the received dividend to its shareholders (natural persons), regardless of their holdings it will withhold tax at 5% which will be final to those individuals.
BUT, i understand there is a provision in the income tax for SUBSTITUTE TAX (and i am advised that it will apply on this case)..

Kindly assist where possible..
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muganda
#5 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2010 10:55:08 AM
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Aaah I see my assumption - 12.5% issue applies only if shareholders are incorporated (companies and not individuals)

@VituVingiSana, no withholding tax is imposed if recipient is a qualifying Kenyan institution or resident recipient company controls 12.5% or more of the payer.

@Kamaa, I've never heard of a substitute tax in KRA. Refer to a quick tax guide http://www.deloitte.com/...ighlight_2010_Kenya.pdf
Kamaa
#6 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2010 11:25:30 AM
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@muganda

I too have never heard of it but a certain consultant mentioned something of the sort..

I've called KRA and they seems not sure..
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Mkimwa
#7 Posted : Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:40:27 PM
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MY thoughts

Company B:
Dividend expense of 100M comes out of profit after tax.

Company A:
Dividend income of 67.5m is not taxable, because it owns > 12.5% of the company paying dividend. However, if it is a financial institution - then this amount will be subject to tax at corporate taxation rate.

Shareholders of Company A:
Locals (assuming residents) - 12% and 8% - Company A should deduct withhold tax at WT rate for qualifying dividends of 5%.
Foreigners (assuming non-residents) - 16% each - Company A should deduct withhold tax at the rate of 10%.
bkismat
#8 Posted : Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:52:48 AM
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Some lawyer wins a 3.4 Billion legal fees from the GOKSick; and is promptly slapped with a 2.8 Billion shilling tax bill. How is that possible. I thought Ceaser takes upto a maximum of about 30%. AndPray how does one run up such a bill or is the GOK always this generous. Any learned friend around how much is the highest that can be billed by the hour?
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