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Sonko Rescue team
captain kirk
#131 Posted : Saturday, March 28, 2015 6:23:01 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 7/28/2013
Posts: 178
tycho wrote:
Wamunyota wrote:
tycho wrote:
(1) The Senate represents the counties, and serves to protect the interests of the counties and their governments.
(2) The Senate participates in the law-making function of Parliament by considering, debating and approving Bills concerning counties, as provided in Articles
109 to 113.
(3) The Senate determines the allocation of national revenue among counties, as provided in Article 217, and exercises oversight over national revenue
allocated to the county governments.
(4) The Senate participates in the oversight of State officers by considering and determining any resolution to remove the President or Deputy President from
office in accordance with Article 145.

The Senator is part of the county government. The Senator has to promote the above mandate to the best of capacities.

So which clause states that a senator will duplicate the roles of a county government?


The question of duplication doesn't arise. Senate is part of the county government.

@Tycho, you need to get a civics book and educate yourself. There are three branches of government; legislature, judiciary and executive. Each has a specific role. The first makes laws, the second interprets laws and the third implements the laws. If we ignore such basic guidelines, the result is anarchy.
Lolest!
#132 Posted : Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:17:30 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
Gordon Gekko wrote:
The Strategy

1. Provide basic services (ambulance, fire)
2. Provide security services (vigilantes replace police)
3. Collect taxes

Jubilee should be very careful.

Unless voters stop him in 2017, he could be President in 2022

Hiyo mambo ya a special clique choosing President tutaona if it will stop him
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Lolest!
#133 Posted : Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:19:26 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
tycho wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
Cancer ailing our people is laziness that results to freebies mentality and expectations. Sonko in a civilised society will be in jail. Same with kidero.


In this case 'syphilized' society is one that has soup kitchens, welfare mechanisms, tax havens, big industry-politician collabos, quantitative easing, foreign aid donations. . .

Acheni chuki na wivu tafadhali. Sonkonomics doesn't have to be approved by G-8.

Meanwhile, Sonko-Jesu should saidia sisi because bedbugs namalisa.

Syphilized-lolLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

I like how you have become human on this threadsmile
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
maka
#134 Posted : Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:29:43 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Lolest! wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
The Strategy

1. Provide basic services (ambulance, fire)
2. Provide security services (vigilantes replace police)
3. Collect taxes

Jubilee should be very careful.

Unless voters stop him in 2017, he could be President in 2022

Hiyo mambo ya a special clique choosing President tutaona if it will stop him


God forbid...
possunt quia posse videntur
tycho
#135 Posted : Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:41:39 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
captain kirk wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wamunyota wrote:
tycho wrote:
(1) The Senate represents the counties, and serves to protect the interests of the counties and their governments.
(2) The Senate participates in the law-making function of Parliament by considering, debating and approving Bills concerning counties, as provided in Articles
109 to 113.
(3) The Senate determines the allocation of national revenue among counties, as provided in Article 217, and exercises oversight over national revenue
allocated to the county governments.
(4) The Senate participates in the oversight of State officers by considering and determining any resolution to remove the President or Deputy President from
office in accordance with Article 145.

The Senator is part of the county government. The Senator has to promote the above mandate to the best of capacities.

So which clause states that a senator will duplicate the roles of a county government?


The question of duplication doesn't arise. Senate is part of the county government.

@Tycho, you need to get a civics book and educate yourself. There are three branches of government; legislature, judiciary and executive. Each has a specific role. The first makes laws, the second interprets laws and the third implements the laws. If we ignore such basic guidelines, the result is anarchy.


Thank you for your reminder and recommendation, captain. When I think about civics and the matter of seperation of powers I realize that indeed we may need to reconcile our views. Because evidence is that markets create the need for laws and dictates the boundaries, the legislature codifies laws that meet these criteria, the judiciary interprets, and the executive implements.

Now, it happens that the demand in the market has overwhelmed the three branches of government. New ways of doing things must be found.

When we ask, 'what has this politician done for his people?' Do we enumerate the bills he's drafted?

Siasa ni sufuria na ugali. Anarchy is when siasa is maneno na mikono mitupu. This is how stupid eastlanders think. While you wonder why so and so hasn't stepped aside, others are wondering what they'll have for supper.
Wamunyota
#136 Posted : Saturday, March 28, 2015 9:35:43 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 6/23/2014
Posts: 1,652
tycho wrote:
captain kirk wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wamunyota wrote:
tycho wrote:
(1) The Senate represents the counties, and serves to protect the interests of the counties and their governments.
(2) The Senate participates in the law-making function of Parliament by considering, debating and approving Bills concerning counties, as provided in Articles
109 to 113.
(3) The Senate determines the allocation of national revenue among counties, as provided in Article 217, and exercises oversight over national revenue
allocated to the county governments.
(4) The Senate participates in the oversight of State officers by considering and determining any resolution to remove the President or Deputy President from
office in accordance with Article 145.

The Senator is part of the county government. The Senator has to promote the above mandate to the best of capacities.

So which clause states that a senator will duplicate the roles of a county government?


The question of duplication doesn't arise. Senate is part of the county government.

@Tycho, you need to get a civics book and educate yourself. There are three branches of government; legislature, judiciary and executive. Each has a specific role. The first makes laws, the second interprets laws and the third implements the laws. If we ignore such basic guidelines, the result is anarchy.


Thank you for your reminder and recommendation, captain. When I think about civics and the matter of seperation of powers I realize that indeed we may need to reconcile our views. Because evidence is that markets create the need for laws and dictates the boundaries, the legislature codifies laws that meet these criteria, the judiciary interprets, and the executive implements.

Now, it happens that the demand in the market has overwhelmed the three branches of government. New ways of doing things must be found.

When we ask, 'what has this politician done for his people?' Do we enumerate the bills he's drafted?

Siasa ni sufuria na ugali. Anarchy is when siasa is maneno na mikono mitupu. This is how stupid eastlanders think. While you wonder why so and so hasn't stepped aside, others are wondering what they'll have for supper.

So new ways is the law of Jungle?We are where we are because of hii maneno ya sufuria na ugali.If everyone in the public office is doing what he/she is supposed to do then Kenya would be very far.The stupid eastlandos would have moved to runda.
Hutia Mundu!!
Euge
#137 Posted : Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:33:40 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 8/4/2008
Posts: 2,849
Location: Rupi
Lolest! wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
The Strategy

1. Provide basic services (ambulance, fire)
2. Provide security services (vigilantes replace police)
3. Collect taxes

Jubilee should be very careful.

Unless voters stop him in 2017, he could be President in 2022

Hiyo mambo ya a special clique choosing President tutaona if it will stop him


Sonko will never be president. Clique will NEVER pick him
Lord, thank you!
tycho
#138 Posted : Saturday, March 28, 2015 11:09:54 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
Wamunyota wrote:
tycho wrote:
captain kirk wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wamunyota wrote:
tycho wrote:
(1) The Senate represents the counties, and serves to protect the interests of the counties and their governments.
(2) The Senate participates in the law-making function of Parliament by considering, debating and approving Bills concerning counties, as provided in Articles
109 to 113.
(3) The Senate determines the allocation of national revenue among counties, as provided in Article 217, and exercises oversight over national revenue
allocated to the county governments.
(4) The Senate participates in the oversight of State officers by considering and determining any resolution to remove the President or Deputy President from
office in accordance with Article 145.

The Senator is part of the county government. The Senator has to promote the above mandate to the best of capacities.

So which clause states that a senator will duplicate the roles of a county government?


The question of duplication doesn't arise. Senate is part of the county government.

@Tycho, you need to get a civics book and educate yourself. There are three branches of government; legislature, judiciary and executive. Each has a specific role. The first makes laws, the second interprets laws and the third implements the laws. If we ignore such basic guidelines, the result is anarchy.


Thank you for your reminder and recommendation, captain. When I think about civics and the matter of seperation of powers I realize that indeed we may need to reconcile our views. Because evidence is that markets create the need for laws and dictates the boundaries, the legislature codifies laws that meet these criteria, the judiciary interprets, and the executive implements.

Now, it happens that the demand in the market has overwhelmed the three branches of government. New ways of doing things must be found.

When we ask, 'what has this politician done for his people?' Do we enumerate the bills he's drafted?

Siasa ni sufuria na ugali. Anarchy is when siasa is maneno na mikono mitupu. This is how stupid eastlanders think. While you wonder why so and so hasn't stepped aside, others are wondering what they'll have for supper.

So new ways is the law of Jungle?We are where we are because of hii maneno ya sufuria na ugali.If everyone in the public office is doing what he/she is supposed to do then Kenya would be very far.The stupid eastlandos would have moved to runda.


There's no jungle law here. Sonko hasn't broken a law so far by having a rescue team. Otherwise specify that law.

'New ways' means innovation, flexibility, promptness, efficiency . . .

Getting to Runda is nothing big. And you thinking or calling someone stupid is not even significant. Try to understand and respect even the lowly and see how life can be beautiful and fulfilling.
Wamunyota
#139 Posted : Sunday, March 29, 2015 3:56:18 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 6/23/2014
Posts: 1,652
tycho wrote:

There's no jungle law here. Sonko hasn't broken a law so far by having a rescue team. Otherwise specify that law.

'New ways' means innovation, flexibility, promptness, efficiency . . .

Getting to Runda is nothing big. And you thinking or calling someone stupid is not even significant. Try to understand and respect even the lowly and see how life can be beautiful and fulfilling.


Are you then saying that since senator is part of county government then Senator=Governor?
There is a reason why our body have different part and each has a role to play.We cannot have two brains or two hearts.We have only one heart and one brain and each of these have their roles yet they belong to the same body.

Efficiency means high production through less inputs.Why not make the existing inputs better?

There is nothing beautiful about poverty.Every one wants a better life and that why we are all working our asses off to meet our needs as per maslows hierachy theory.
Hutia Mundu!!
tycho
#140 Posted : Monday, March 30, 2015 3:07:24 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/1/2011
Posts: 8,804
Location: Nairobi
Wamunyota wrote:
tycho wrote:

There's no jungle law here. Sonko hasn't broken a law so far by having a rescue team. Otherwise specify that law.

'New ways' means innovation, flexibility, promptness, efficiency . . .

Getting to Runda is nothing big. And you thinking or calling someone stupid is not even significant. Try to understand and respect even the lowly and see how life can be beautiful and fulfilling.


Are you then saying that since senator is part of county government then Senator=Governor?
There is a reason why our body have different part and each has a role to play.We cannot have two brains or two hearts.We have only one heart and one brain and each of these have their roles yet they belong to the same body.

Efficiency means high production through less inputs.Why not make the existing inputs better?

There is nothing beautiful about poverty.Every one wants a better life and that why we are all working our asses off to meet our needs as per maslows hierachy theory.


I have asked you to specify a law broken by the Nairobi Senator in relation to roles and functions and so far, you haven't. What does this imply? For me it shows that a Senator and governor have many points of convergence, and fortunately, the constitution anticipates such scenarios and has made various provisions and recommendations for collaboration and indeed, co-opetition. The Senator doesn't have to be equal to a governor to have a rescue team or rescue services.

Let me quote what I mean by 'efficiency'.

ef- fi- cient
1.
2.
[ih- fish -uh nt]
adjective
performing or functioning in the best
possible manner with the least waste of
time and effort; having and using
requisite knowledge, skill, and industry;
competent; capable:
"a reliable, efficient assistant."
satisfactory and economical to use:
"Our new air conditioner is more
efficient than our old one."

Finally, I didn't say poverty is enjoyable. And neither does everyone subscribe to Maslow's model.
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