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Rank: Member Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 411
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mlennyma wrote:beware of companies where the gvt has big stake,corruption can easily thrive and the looters go free I dont trust anything that I read on Lahawa tungu, it would be better if it was from a different source Your income is directly related to your philosophy, Not the economy.-Jim Rohn
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964
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Rahatupu wrote:Will they respond to these cheap but damaging allegations? KQ is in/will be in a closed period as of 31st of Mar. so tough luck. Await results now. In the meantime, let the Bloggers have their day, wakule. Ndege inatua bado. Time will tell.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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The prophet has increased his stake by over 170%  This bird now forms 90% of his disclosed personal nse portfolio. Wale mulikuwa munaulizia now you know. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/8/2007 Posts: 808
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I repeat for the 3rd year running, Bail out on the horizon.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/16/2009 Posts: 994
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Boris Boyka wrote:The prophet has increased his stake by over 170% This bird now forms 90% of his disclosed personal nse portfolio. Wale mulikuwa munaulizia now you know. Tell him to reserve some cash to defend his position during upcoming rights issue. Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your lifeβs energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,078 Location: Nairobi
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Kausha wrote:I repeat for the 3rd year running, Bail out on the horizon. Amen. http://coldtusker.blogsp...ses-and-more-losses.htmlGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,657 Location: NAIROBI
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KQ will make the biggest loss in Kenya's corporate history. I foresee minimum loss ksh.18bn before tax. This will wipe out all the retained earnings and company will now be technically insolvent Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,487 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:KQ will make the biggest loss in Kenya's corporate history.
I foresee minimum loss ksh.18bn before tax.
This will wipe out all the retained earnings and company will now be technically insolvent Pepo mbaya. Wit the sale of four planes and the 'unfortunate' sale embakasi land, do you think what you have written is possible??
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,180 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:KQ will make the biggest loss in Kenya's corporate history.
I foresee minimum loss ksh.18bn before tax.
This will wipe out all the retained earnings and company will now be technically insolvent Pepo mbaya. Wit the sale of four planes and the 'unfortunate' sale embakasi land, do you think what you have written is possible?? the debt in this company given the business environment will wipe it. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:KQ will make the biggest loss in Kenya's corporate history.
I foresee minimum loss ksh.18bn before tax.
This will wipe out all the retained earnings and company will now be technically insolvent Pepo mbaya. Wit the sale of four planes and the 'unfortunate' sale embakasi land, do you think what you have written is possible?? Above 10bn is a real possibility,they will try window dress them but they will be terrible...btw what was the idea behind buying dreamliners then leasing them out?One is headed to Turkish airlines...there is an interesting letter KALPA to KQ HR about banks complaining that loans taken by some pilots are not being paid up... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,078 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:KQ will make the biggest loss in Kenya's corporate history.
I foresee minimum loss ksh.18bn before tax.
This will wipe out all the retained earnings and company will now be technically insolvent Pepo mbaya. Wit the sale of four planes and the 'unfortunate' sale embakasi land, do you think what you have written is possible?? 1) Are the planes being 'retired' leased or owned by KQ? 2) If they are owned by KQ, what is the estimated selling price vs the Book Value? If the BV is higher than the Selling Price then KQ has to book a loss for the difference. 3) If the planes have loans and these loans are equal or greater than the Selling Price, then KQ gets ZERO cash from the sales. 4) Has KQ sold the land in Embakasi? If the process is ongoing then KQ cannot apply the proceeds/profits in FY 2014-15. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2007 Posts: 359
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/21/2006 Posts: 1,590
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Titus did the damage. All that remains is for him to be kidero'd i.e. whatever happens to Kidero should happen to him since he has overseen the demise of KQ Sehemu ndio nyumba
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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Mainat wrote:Titus did the damage. All that remains is for him to be kidero'd i.e. whatever happens to Kidero should happen to him since he has overseen the demise of KQ My thoughts exactly!!!!!!!!!!!11 Question Between Naikuni and Kidero who is Badder/ Baddest  "ππ‘KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder ππ " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,180 Location: nairobi
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Long serving ceo's who can never own a single share of their brand. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:KQ will make the biggest loss in Kenya's corporate history.
I foresee minimum loss ksh.18bn before tax.
This will wipe out all the retained earnings and company will now be technically insolvent Pepo mbaya. Wit the sale of four planes and the 'unfortunate' sale embakasi land, do you think what you have written is possible?? Above 10bn is a real possibility,they will try window dress them but they will be terrible...btw what was the idea behind buying dreamliners then leasing them out?One is headed to Turkish airlines...there is an interesting letter KALPA to KQ HR about banks complaining that loans taken by some pilots are not being paid up... Blog! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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These individuals should be made to pay for the losses, because they also benefited at a personal level The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,487 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:KQ will make the biggest loss in Kenya's corporate history.
I foresee minimum loss ksh.18bn before tax.
This will wipe out all the retained earnings and company will now be technically insolvent Pepo mbaya. Wit the sale of four planes and the 'unfortunate' sale embakasi land, do you think what you have written is possible?? 1) Are the planes being 'retired' leased or owned by KQ? 2) If they are owned by KQ, what is the estimated selling price vs the Book Value? If the BV is higher than the Selling Price then KQ has to book a loss for the difference. 3) If the planes have loans and these loans are equal or greater than the Selling Price, then KQ gets ZERO cash from the sales. 4) Has KQ sold the land in Embakasi? If the process is ongoing then KQ cannot apply the proceeds/profits in FY 2014-15. No. 1 & 2 are rhetorical, but I ask: 3)if the proceeds from sale are used to reduce debt. Is it a bad thing?? 4)The land sale agreement though incomplete/ongoing can be provided for in the accounts
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,487 Location: nairobi
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loading up still. will only rest when I reach 200,000 shares.. im not blind to the troubles being faced at the moment but I am certain that a 180 degree turn around shall come, soon. Possibly before 2018
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,180 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:loading up still. will only rest when I reach 200,000 shares.. im not blind to the troubles being faced at the moment but I am certain that a 180 degree turn around shall come, soon. Possibly before 2018 I don't think you are doing that. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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