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ODM.... Stop misrepresentation....
bwenyenye
#11 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:22:02 AM
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Joined: 5/24/2007
Posts: 1,805
Guys,

The real issues to me are not ODM vs PNU. This is what these characters (MPs) want us to believe. The real issues are Corruption and non performance. Both camps stand accused of corruption and therefore both stand condemned. Finger pointing does not get me my 100M that was lost in FPE, neither does it get me 2 to 6B that was lost on the maizse scandal.

I WANT MY TAXES RETURNED. Whether Kibaki or Raila resigns, I dont care.We can actaully do without either or both for all I care. I WANT MY TAXES REPAID WITH INTEREST!.

Tuwache mipango ya kando! Epuka wizi!
I Think Therefore I Am
VituVingiSana
#12 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:47:45 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
If I had to choose again... I wud vote for neither of the 3 stooges but Nazlin Umar... A woman of indeterminate tribe (Mwarabu/Mhindi)...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
aemathenge
#13 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2010 11:08:18 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,434
Location: Kerugoya
OMG

The Real Shaft

And

Vitu Vingi Sana

Are

Negative Tribalists?

Pray
The Real Shaft
#14 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2010 5:03:20 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 11/19/2008
Posts: 839
call it what you want....

and no i am not above anything....

we went into reverse (negative) development....

when communities took their stands...

they backed their tribal torch bearers.....

and it is communities...

or the threat that communities...

can walk out of government...

that holds the thieves together....

honour amongst thieves....

so bear with me...

when i go tribal....

further...

we all voted tribal....

so as you point one finger at me....

how many are pointing back....

let's not pretend....

this is a tribal outfilt...

and until tribal sentiments ...

become secondary...

we shall remain tribal creatures...
I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....
The Real Shaft
#15 Posted : Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:15:53 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 11/19/2008
Posts: 839
and whether TRS has gone tribal...

does it change the fact that...

a crisis in ODM....

means that there is a crisis...

in the Government...???

this nonsense really makes Kenyans...

look like idiots....

and look at what the Tanzanian Gado....

is drawing....!!!

when will this lunacy end...???
I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....
muganda
#16 Posted : Thursday, February 18, 2010 7:24:46 AM
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Joined: 9/15/2006
Posts: 3,907
@TRS and @Nandwa, the truth is out. But as Wazuans, let's not be fools, we need to stand together before defending these guys - our interests are not their primary concern. How else will we find our Kenyan Obama?

Read NairobiStar and it seems:
1. We know Raila has fallen out with a Ruto, Balala etc. who've gone to the other side - Uhuru

2. Since he's supposed to second half the guys to cabinet, he requests Kibaki for a reshuffle.

3. Kibaki refuses because just like with Kalonzo, he's found a way of increasing numbers in cabinet.

4. ODM calls in Annan the first time and Kibaki probably is coerced into some form of promise. Everything handled maturely in camera.

5. Raila is frustrated nothing is happening and latches on to any excuse to start reshuffle. The rest we all know.


My point is to serve Kibaki and Raila interests, the country is suffering once again. They are both very dishonest at our expense.

Way Forward: As president, Kibaki should be respected. As coalition partner, Raila should be allowed to remove his guys who cross-over. As voters, we need to look for a true leader away from these braidy bunch
jaribu
#17 Posted : Thursday, February 18, 2010 9:52:29 AM
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Joined: 5/23/2007
Posts: 441
it's called politics ama siasa.. my friend. And it's indeed a dirty game. You blink first, you lose!
The Real Shaft
#18 Posted : Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:13:06 AM
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Joined: 11/19/2008
Posts: 839
siasa ni siasa ndio...

lakini...

do we have to go childish...???
I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....
Seeders
#19 Posted : Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:26:43 AM
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Joined: 2/17/2010
Posts: 234
Location: Nairobi
annan has just communicated and says the issue can be resolved without him. that is diplospeak for 'wacheni ujinga'
Nandwa
#20 Posted : Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:55:56 PM
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Joined: 11/17/2009
Posts: 1,049
@Muganda

Spot on.
Rao has every right to shuffle his side but with consultation. I guess he needed to write formally asking Kibaki to remove so and so. If Kibaki fails to do it then it is him we would be blaming.

Raila should show us the letter he wrote that was dishonoured.

@Seeders
Man you are also being too diplomatic with people who dont practice any.
Ati Annan amesema Wacheni ujinga!!
No, not all.
It's - Acha ujinga.
Only one guy asked him to come.
That is the guy who has egg on the face.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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