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#81 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 2:55:02 PM
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tycho wrote:


I doubt whether one who observes himself being fixated can be fixated.



Getting lost in thought about being lost in thought.
tycho
#82 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 3:01:23 PM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:


I doubt whether one who observes himself being fixated can be fixated.



Getting lost in thought about being lost in thought.


One may get lost in thought. Can one lose experience?
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#83 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 3:11:06 PM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:


I doubt whether one who observes himself being fixated can be fixated.



Getting lost in thought about being lost in thought.


One may get lost in thought. Can one lose experience?


Is the objective to lose experience or to live?
tycho
#84 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 3:14:45 PM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:


I doubt whether one who observes himself being fixated can be fixated.



Getting lost in thought about being lost in thought.


One may get lost in thought. Can one lose experience?


Is the objective to lose experience or to live?


Experience can't be lost. Life and death are the options. The objective is life.
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#85 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 3:24:40 PM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:


I doubt whether one who observes himself being fixated can be fixated.



Getting lost in thought about being lost in thought.


One may get lost in thought. Can one lose experience?


Is the objective to lose experience or to live?


Experience can't be lost. Life and death are the options. The objective is life.


It doesn't have to be lost.One can live by experiencing the death of death.
tycho
#86 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 3:29:18 PM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:


I doubt whether one who observes himself being fixated can be fixated.



Getting lost in thought about being lost in thought.


One may get lost in thought. Can one lose experience?


Is the objective to lose experience or to live?


Experience can't be lost. Life and death are the options. The objective is life.


It doesn't have to be lost.One can live by experiencing the death of death.


What makes experience to be 'unlosable'?
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#87 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 3:52:04 PM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:


I doubt whether one who observes himself being fixated can be fixated.



Getting lost in thought about being lost in thought.


One may get lost in thought. Can one lose experience?


Is the objective to lose experience or to live?


Experience can't be lost. Life and death are the options. The objective is life.


It doesn't have to be lost.One can live by experiencing the death of death.


What makes experience to be 'unlosable'?


I don't know if it is or isn't 'unlosable'.
Muriel
#88 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 4:03:47 PM
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My brothers, I will catch up with you later. As you can see, it's Friday evening! Hooray!


tycho
#89 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 4:04:37 PM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:


I doubt whether one who observes himself being fixated can be fixated.



Getting lost in thought about being lost in thought.


One may get lost in thought. Can one lose experience?


Is the objective to lose experience or to live?


Experience can't be lost. Life and death are the options. The objective is life.


It doesn't have to be lost.One can live by experiencing the death of death.


What makes experience to be 'unlosable'?


I don't know if it is or isn't 'unlosable'.


It's 'unlosable'. And the quality of unlosability tends to affirm life despite the death experience. At least that's how am seeing it now.
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#90 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 4:17:55 PM
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Muriel wrote:


My brothers, I will catch up with you later. As you can see, it's Friday evening! Hooray!




Have a good one.
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#91 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 4:20:08 PM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:


I doubt whether one who observes himself being fixated can be fixated.



Getting lost in thought about being lost in thought.


One may get lost in thought. Can one lose experience?


Is the objective to lose experience or to live?


Experience can't be lost. Life and death are the options. The objective is life.


It doesn't have to be lost.One can live by experiencing the death of death.


What makes experience to be 'unlosable'?


I don't know if it is or isn't 'unlosable'.


It's 'unlosable'. And the quality of unlosability tends to affirm life despite the death experience. At least that's how am seeing it now.


I tend to agree with you on that and if it was truly losable we wouldn't know.
tycho
#92 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 4:22:26 PM
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Muriel wrote:


My brothers, I will catch up with you later. As you can see, it's Friday evening! Hooray!




Enjoy your weekend.
tycho
#93 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 4:23:58 PM
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symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
tycho wrote:


I doubt whether one who observes himself being fixated can be fixated.



Getting lost in thought about being lost in thought.


One may get lost in thought. Can one lose experience?


Is the objective to lose experience or to live?


Experience can't be lost. Life and death are the options. The objective is life.


It doesn't have to be lost.One can live by experiencing the death of death.


What makes experience to be 'unlosable'?


I don't know if it is or isn't 'unlosable'.


It's 'unlosable'. And the quality of unlosability tends to affirm life despite the death experience. At least that's how am seeing it now.


I tend to agree with you on that and if it was truly losable we wouldn't know.


If it were losable, it wouldn't be there.
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#94 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 4:51:58 PM
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Does or can nothing exist?
tycho
#95 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 4:56:32 PM
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@Wendz, All am saying is this:

Am sorry for imposing my experience on others, or even, denying other people's experiences. This has implied and led me to have a mind that's not liberated to extend my experience.

Acknowledging other's experiences is now the object of my study.
tycho
#96 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 4:59:30 PM
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symbols wrote:
Does or can nothing exist?


Is your question equivalent to 'Can an experiencer cease to experience'?
tycho
#97 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 5:25:05 PM
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tycho wrote:
symbols wrote:
Does or can nothing exist?


Is your question equivalent to 'Can an experiencer cease to experience'?


Yes. Nothing can exist. Nothing exists.
tycho
#98 Posted : Saturday, March 14, 2015 9:09:47 AM
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My greatest achievement this week has been to reconstruct the story of Jesus from before birth to resurrection, to the point of writing the Gospel many years after ascension.

The story is hardly literal-physical-logical. To meet Jesus and see him for who he was and is, I have to look at the psycho-historical.
tycho
#99 Posted : Saturday, March 14, 2015 9:23:23 AM
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tycho wrote:
My greatest achievement this week has been to reconstruct the story of Jesus from before birth to resurrection, to the point of writing the Gospel many years after ascension.

The story is hardly literal-physical-logical. To meet Jesus and see him for who he was and is, I have to look at the psycho-historical.


The story of Christ has a lot to share with this story http://www.theguardian.c...cter-wisconsin-stabbings
tycho
#100 Posted : Sunday, March 15, 2015 12:42:17 AM
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Today I have learned that it's impossible to love my neighbor as myself if the currency of exchange extends beyond love and into other things like money, food, clothing and the like.

As such I wonder whether the Gospel isn't inadequate afterall, in its assertion that God gave us his son as a sacrifice because he loved us.

Or even, could we say that Christ loved us more than he loved himself to the extent of crucifixion?

If the crucifixion was an act in which God and Christ loved themselves as they loved us, was it then an act of salvation for Man?

Am asking this because I suspect my previous belief about love has led me to nothing but loss and anger at the human, and more specifically, myself. It's like a grand delusion revealed.


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