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777s maybe but pilots....no, in fact there are more in training Still learning...
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/8/2008 Posts: 288
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maru101 wrote:777s maybe but pilots....no, in fact there are more in training Why train more pilots when you are getting rid of the fleet?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:I heard that KQ is cutting back on some 777s and pilots ... any truth to this? There is somewhere on this thread I talked about this...yes it's true. possunt quia posse videntur
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Jitahidi wrote:maru101 wrote:777s maybe but pilots....no, in fact there are more in training Why train more pilots when you are getting rid of the fleet? They're replacing old fleets with the new one's thus the need as they need more captains. “The beauty of success is that it doesn’t matter how many times you have failed, you only have to be right once and then everyone can tell you how lucky you are.” - Mark Cuban
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/1/2014 Posts: 82
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VituVingiSana wrote:I heard that KQ is cutting back on some 777s and pilots ... any truth to this? Rumor was there and dismissed but you can't rule it out either. “The beauty of success is that it doesn’t matter how many times you have failed, you only have to be right once and then everyone can tell you how lucky you are.” - Mark Cuban
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Kastone wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:I heard that KQ is cutting back on some 777s and pilots ... any truth to this? Rumor was there and dismissed but you can't rule it out either. It's not a rumour it's totally true there is even an impending go slow from the pilots as 11 have been told they will be retired 2 years early...as for the planes they are being leased out. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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maka wrote:Kastone wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:I heard that KQ is cutting back on some 777s and pilots ... any truth to this? Rumor was there and dismissed but you can't rule it out either. It's not a rumour it's totally true there is even an impending go slow from the pilots as 11 have been told they will be retired 2 years early...as for the planes they are being leased out. There are no routes in the forseable future to sustain the -300 which had been ordered. There may be space for the existing -200, but its crew is quite expensive to maintain. Take a 777 which does nbo-dubai-hongkong. You need a set of crew to take it to Dubai, a second set to take it to Hong Kong, another set to return it to Dubai and the set in Dubai to bring it back to nbo. You also need a fourth set as relief. That's four sets to run a single plane. At its basic level you need four sets, but with clever crew management one can get away with three. A 777 captain takes home1.5 metres before allowances. Because of type approval issues, 777 crew can't be deployed say to 787 or 737 or even embraers (haha)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,487 Location: nairobi
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Gordon Gekko wrote:maka wrote:Kastone wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:I heard that KQ is cutting back on some 777s and pilots ... any truth to this? Rumor was there and dismissed but you can't rule it out either. It's not a rumour it's totally true there is even an impending go slow from the pilots as 11 have been told they will be retired 2 years early...as for the planes they are being leased out. There are no routes in the forseable future to sustain the -300 which had been ordered. There may be space for the existing -200, but its crew is quite expensive to maintain. Take a 777 which does nbo-dubai-hongkong. You need a set of crew to take it to Dubai, a second set to take it to Hong Kong, another set to return it to Dubai and the set in Dubai to bring it back to nbo. You also need a fourth set as relief. That's four sets to run a single plane. At its basic level you need four sets, but with clever crew management one can get away with three. A 777 captain takes home1.5 metres before allowances. Because of type approval issues, 777 crew can't be deployed say to 787 or 737 or even embraers (haha) Please remove the haha at the end. It seems intent to injure my spirits.. :) www.businessdailyafrica....20/-/mfcti7/-/index.html HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Gordon Gekko wrote:maka wrote:Kastone wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:I heard that KQ is cutting back on some 777s and pilots ... any truth to this? Rumor was there and dismissed but you can't rule it out either. It's not a rumour it's totally true there is even an impending go slow from the pilots as 11 have been told they will be retired 2 years early...as for the planes they are being leased out. There are no routes in the forseable future to sustain the -300 which had been ordered. There may be space for the existing -200, but its crew is quite expensive to maintain. Take a 777 which does nbo-dubai-hongkong. You need a set of crew to take it to Dubai, a second set to take it to Hong Kong, another set to return it to Dubai and the set in Dubai to bring it back to nbo. You also need a fourth set as relief. That's four sets to run a single plane. At its basic level you need four sets, but with clever crew management one can get away with three. A 777 captain takes home1.5 metres before allowances. Because of type approval issues, 777 crew can't be deployed say to 787 or 737 or even embraers (haha) On route matters,Tanzanian Civil Aviation has written to its Kenyan counterpart asking them to tell KQ to halve (Sp) their flights to Tz. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,078 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:maka wrote:Kastone wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:I heard that KQ is cutting back on some 777s and pilots ... any truth to this? Rumor was there and dismissed but you can't rule it out either. It's not a rumour it's totally true there is even an impending go slow from the pilots as 11 have been told they will be retired 2 years early...as for the planes they are being leased out. There are no routes in the forseable future to sustain the -300 which had been ordered. There may be space for the existing -200, but its crew is quite expensive to maintain. Take a 777 which does nbo-dubai-hongkong. You need a set of crew to take it to Dubai, a second set to take it to Hong Kong, another set to return it to Dubai and the set in Dubai to bring it back to nbo. You also need a fourth set as relief. That's four sets to run a single plane. At its basic level you need four sets, but with clever crew management one can get away with three. A 777 captain takes home1.5 metres before allowances. Because of type approval issues, 777 crew can't be deployed say to 787 or 737 or even embraers (haha) On route matters,Tanzanian Civil Aviation has written to its Kenyan counterpart asking them to tell KQ to halve (Sp) their flights to Tz. Why? And KCAA should ignore the TCAA. After all, let KQ make a private/economic decision. Of course, this is Tanzania we are talking about. They are all about the double-speak. They were against the Northern Corridor (Coalition of the Willing) but now they attend the meetings though I remain suspicious. I think they plan to sabotage the Northern Corridor. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,325 Location: Masada
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Gordon Gekko wrote:maka wrote:Kastone wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:I heard that KQ is cutting back on some 777s and pilots ... any truth to this? Rumor was there and dismissed but you can't rule it out either. It's not a rumour it's totally true there is even an impending go slow from the pilots as 11 have been told they will be retired 2 years early...as for the planes they are being leased out. There are no routes in the forseable future to sustain the -300 which had been ordered. There may be space for the existing -200, but its crew is quite expensive to maintain. Take a 777 which does nbo-dubai-hongkong. You need a set of crew to take it to Dubai, a second set to take it to Hong Kong, another set to return it to Dubai and the set in Dubai to bring it back to nbo. You also need a fourth set as relief. That's four sets to run a single plane. At its basic level you need four sets, but with clever crew management one can get away with three. A 777 captain takes home1.5 metres before allowances. Because of type approval issues, 777 crew can't be deployed say to 787 or 737 or even embraers (haha) I cant see the nbo-dubai-hongkong route in KQ site.Or you may be talikng of another airline? Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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What happened to KQ releasing quarterly operations updates?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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the deal wrote:What happened to KQ releasing quarterly operations updates? There is nothing to report here... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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the deal wrote:What happened to KQ releasing quarterly operations updates? Manze you've disappeared, don't get lost like than bwana! The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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maka wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:maka wrote:Kastone wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:I heard that KQ is cutting back on some 777s and pilots ... any truth to this? Rumor was there and dismissed but you can't rule it out either. It's not a rumour it's totally true there is even an impending go slow from the pilots as 11 have been told they will be retired 2 years early...as for the planes they are being leased out. There are no routes in the forseable future to sustain the -300 which had been ordered. There may be space for the existing -200, but its crew is quite expensive to maintain. Take a 777 which does nbo-dubai-hongkong. You need a set of crew to take it to Dubai, a second set to take it to Hong Kong, another set to return it to Dubai and the set in Dubai to bring it back to nbo. You also need a fourth set as relief. That's four sets to run a single plane. At its basic level you need four sets, but with clever crew management one can get away with three. A 777 captain takes home1.5 metres before allowances. Because of type approval issues, 777 crew can't be deployed say to 787 or 737 or even embraers (haha) On route matters,Tanzanian Civil Aviation has written to its Kenyan counterpart asking them to tell KQ to halve (Sp) their flights to Tz. Is it halving number of flights or number of seats? If flights, KQ should just replace embaer with 787, if flights......
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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Impunity wrote:Gordon Gekko wrote:maka wrote:Kastone wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:I heard that KQ is cutting back on some 777s and pilots ... any truth to this? Rumor was there and dismissed but you can't rule it out either. It's not a rumour it's totally true there is even an impending go slow from the pilots as 11 have been told they will be retired 2 years early...as for the planes they are being leased out. There are no routes in the forseable future to sustain the -300 which had been ordered. There may be space for the existing -200, but its crew is quite expensive to maintain. Take a 777 which does nbo-dubai-hongkong. You need a set of crew to take it to Dubai, a second set to take it to Hong Kong, another set to return it to Dubai and the set in Dubai to bring it back to nbo. You also need a fourth set as relief. That's four sets to run a single plane. At its basic level you need four sets, but with clever crew management one can get away with three. A 777 captain takes home1.5 metres before allowances. Because of type approval issues, 777 crew can't be deployed say to 787 or 737 or even embraers (haha) I cant see the nbo-dubai-hongkong route in KQ site.Or you may be talikng of another airline? I used it in 2012 when going to shaina...maybe they've scrapped the route.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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the deal wrote:What happened to KQ releasing quarterly operations updates? Who enjoys repeated bashing?? Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Pesa Nane wrote:the deal wrote:What happened to KQ releasing quarterly operations updates? Who enjoys repeated bashing?? He who proudly sold the Mighty Simba to buy this monkey! Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/16/2009 Posts: 994
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guru267 wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:the deal wrote:What happened to KQ releasing quarterly operations updates? Who enjoys repeated bashing?? He who proudly sold the Mighty Simba to buy this monkey! I still see 18K in his signature so I presume he is seated on Simba money. Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,487 Location: nairobi
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Gatheuzi wrote:guru267 wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:the deal wrote:What happened to KQ releasing quarterly operations updates? Who enjoys repeated bashing?? He who proudly sold the Mighty Simba to buy this monkey! I still see 18K in his signature so I presume he is seated on Simba money. @guru hii pesa si ya m... :) The road to financial freedom is made up of many paths. Si lazima nifuate njia yako kufika ninapotaka kuenda HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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