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Pesa Nane
#601 Posted : Wednesday, March 04, 2015 9:30:56 PM
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obiero wrote:
KCB 24.1 Actual PBT 23.8 (-1.2%)
EQTY 20.6
SCBK 15.8
BBK 12.8
COOP 12.7
CFC 8.2 Actual PBT 7.7 (-6.5%)
NBK 1.9 Actual PBT 1.3 (-46.2%)
HFCK 1.5

NIC PBT Ksh. 6.23Bn. @obiero you should know people smile
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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obiero
#602 Posted : Wednesday, March 04, 2015 9:45:40 PM
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NBK was meant to be 2.43 but structuring costs bit its butt.. Where is monomotapa

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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VituVingiSana
#603 Posted : Thursday, March 05, 2015 1:44:14 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
KCB 24.1 Actual PBT 23.8 (-1.2%)
EQTY 20.6
SCBK 15.8
BBK 12.8
COOP 12.7
CFC 8.2 Actual PBT 7.7 (-6.5%)
NBK 1.9 Actual PBT 1.3 (-46.2%)
HFCK 1.5

NIC PBT Ksh. 6.23Bn. @obiero you should know people smile
BTW, you need to redo your math on NBK. 1.9 to 1.3 is not a reduction of 46% but closer to 30%. If @Obiero had said 1.3bn and it was 1.9bn then it would be +46%.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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obiero
#604 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 10:31:05 AM
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KCB 24.1 Actual PBT 23.8 (-1.2%)
EQTY 20.6
SCBK 15.8
BBK 12.8 Actual 12.3
COOP 12.7
CFC 8.2 Actual PBT 7.7 (-6.5%)
NBK 1.9 Actual PBT 1.3 (-46.2%)
HFCK 1.5

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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mlennyma
#605 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 10:33:35 AM
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obiero wrote:
KCB 24.1 Actual PBT 23.8 (-1.2%)
EQTY 20.6
SCBK 15.8
BBK 12.8 Actual 12.3
COOP 12.7
CFC 8.2 Actual PBT 7.7 (-6.5%)
NBK 1.9 Actual PBT 1.3 (-46.2%)
HFCK 1.5

is your red marking pen over?smile why has equity developed cold feet?
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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mulla
#606 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 10:45:09 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
KCB 24.1 Actual PBT 23.8 (-1.2%)
EQTY 20.6
SCBK 15.8
BBK 12.8
COOP 12.7
CFC 8.2 Actual PBT 7.7 (-6.5%)
NBK 1.9 Actual PBT 1.3 (-46.2%)
HFCK 1.5

NIC PBT Ksh. 6.23Bn. @obiero you should know people smile
BTW, you need to redo your math on NBK. 1.9 to 1.3 is not a reduction of 46% but closer to 30%. If @Obiero had said 1.3bn and it was 1.9bn then it would be +46%.

True...Obiero amend for NBK from -46% to -31.57%
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kryptonite
#607 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 11:05:25 AM
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My kibanda Exchange Bar contact intimated Memba will outdo Simba…no figures were offered
The harder you work, the luckier you get
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KiFagio
#608 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 2:04:44 PM
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kryptonite wrote:
My kibanda Exchange Bar contact intimated Memba will outdo Simba…no figures were offered

He must have smoked an illegal substance. I'm amazed that you believed him.
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Boris Boyka
#609 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 2:11:17 PM
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KiFagio wrote:
kryptonite wrote:
My kibanda Exchange Bar contact intimated Memba will outdo Simba…no figures were offered

He must have smoked an illegal substance. I'm amazed that you believed him.

It is possible in terms of %smile
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KiFagio
#610 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 2:19:54 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
KiFagio wrote:
kryptonite wrote:
My kibanda Exchange Bar contact intimated Memba will outdo Simba…no figures were offered

He must have smoked an illegal substance. I'm amazed that you believed him.

It is possible in terms of %smile

I agree with you on this but I doubt they will. Family bank will.
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VituVingiSana
#611 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 7:14:08 PM
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KiFagio wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
KiFagio wrote:
kryptonite wrote:
My kibanda Exchange Bar contact intimated Memba will outdo Simba…no figures were offered

He must have smoked an illegal substance. I'm amazed that you believed him.

It is possible in terms of %smile

I agree with you on this but I doubt they will. Family bank will.

Sale of HFCK (one-off) will goose the returns for Memba for 2014.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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obiero
#612 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 7:30:42 PM
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KCB 24.1 Actual PBT 23.8 (-1.2%)
EQTY 20.6
SCBK 15.8
BBK 12.8 Actual 12.3 (-3.9%)
COOP 12.7
CFC 8.2 Actual PBT 7.7 (-6.5%)
NBK 1.9 Actual PBT 1.3 (-31.5%)
HFCK 1.5

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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ayushnehra
#613 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 7:52:31 PM
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mulla wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
KCB 24.1 Actual PBT 23.8 (-1.2%)
EQTY 20.6
SCBK 15.8
BBK 12.8
COOP 12.7
CFC 8.2 Actual PBT 7.7 (-6.5%)
NBK 1.9 Actual PBT 1.3 (-46.2%)
HFCK 1.5

NIC PBT Ksh. 6.23Bn. @obiero you should know people smile
BTW, you need to redo your math on NBK. 1.9 to 1.3 is not a reduction of 46% but closer to 30%. If @Obiero had said 1.3bn and it was 1.9bn then it would be +46%.

True...Obiero amend for NBK from -46% to -31.57%



Guys..I understand how you get the 31% lakini look at the other calculations..!! (0.6/1.3 = 0.462)46.2% is correct to show by how much @obiero is off the actual results.!!

If he used your 31% method he would get (0.5/8.0=0.0609) 6% for CFC..!! Where by the (0.5/7.7=0.0649) 6.5% was achieved using the actual amount at the bottom, which is correct..!!
Dreams are not the thing you see in your sleep..it's the thing that doesn't let you sleep. - A.P.J. Abdul Kalam
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obiero
#614 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 9:09:18 PM
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ayushnehra wrote:
mulla wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
KCB 24.1 Actual PBT 23.8 (-1.2%)
EQTY 20.6
SCBK 15.8
BBK 12.8
COOP 12.7
CFC 8.2 Actual PBT 7.7 (-6.5%)
NBK 1.9 Actual PBT 1.3 (-46.2%)
HFCK 1.5

NIC PBT Ksh. 6.23Bn. @obiero you should know people smile
BTW, you need to redo your math on NBK. 1.9 to 1.3 is not a reduction of 46% but closer to 30%. If @Obiero had said 1.3bn and it was 1.9bn then it would be +46%.

True...Obiero amend for NBK from -46% to -31.57%



Guys..I understand how you get the 31% lakini look at the other calculations..!! (0.6/1.3 = 0.462)46.2% is correct to show by how much @obiero is off the actual results.!!

If he used your 31% method he would get (0.5/8.0=0.0609) 6% for CFC..!! Where by the (0.5/7.7=0.0649) 6.5% was achieved using the actual amount at the bottom, which is correct..!!

@nehra 10% variance on a prediction is acceptable.. ulizia ufunzwe sokwe

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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ayushnehra
#615 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 9:56:20 PM
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obiero wrote:
ayushnehra wrote:
mulla wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
KCB 24.1 Actual PBT 23.8 (-1.2%)
EQTY 20.6
SCBK 15.8
BBK 12.8
COOP 12.7
CFC 8.2 Actual PBT 7.7 (-6.5%)
NBK 1.9 Actual PBT 1.3 (-46.2%)
HFCK 1.5

NIC PBT Ksh. 6.23Bn. @obiero you should know people smile
BTW, you need to redo your math on NBK. 1.9 to 1.3 is not a reduction of 46% but closer to 30%. If @Obiero had said 1.3bn and it was 1.9bn then it would be +46%.

True...Obiero amend for NBK from -46% to -31.57%



Guys..I understand how you get the 31% lakini look at the other calculations..!! (0.6/1.3 = 0.462)46.2% is correct to show by how much @obiero is off the actual results.!!

If he used your 31% method he would get (0.5/8.0=0.0609) 6% for CFC..!! Where by the (0.5/7.7=0.0649) 6.5% was achieved using the actual amount at the bottom, which is correct..!!

@nehra 10% variance on a prediction is acceptable.. ulizia ufunzwe sokwe


HIo si katazi..The prophet is only one..Mweshimiwa Obiero!! I was only assuring the people that the math you did the first time round was correct.
Dreams are not the thing you see in your sleep..it's the thing that doesn't let you sleep. - A.P.J. Abdul Kalam
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obiero
#616 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 10:01:28 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,506
Location: nairobi
ayushnehra wrote:
obiero wrote:
ayushnehra wrote:
mulla wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
KCB 24.1 Actual PBT 23.8 (-1.2%)
EQTY 20.6
SCBK 15.8
BBK 12.8
COOP 12.7
CFC 8.2 Actual PBT 7.7 (-6.5%)
NBK 1.9 Actual PBT 1.3 (-46.2%)
HFCK 1.5

NIC PBT Ksh. 6.23Bn. @obiero you should know people smile
BTW, you need to redo your math on NBK. 1.9 to 1.3 is not a reduction of 46% but closer to 30%. If @Obiero had said 1.3bn and it was 1.9bn then it would be +46%.

True...Obiero amend for NBK from -46% to -31.57%



Guys..I understand how you get the 31% lakini look at the other calculations..!! (0.6/1.3 = 0.462)46.2% is correct to show by how much @obiero is off the actual results.!!

If he used your 31% method he would get (0.5/8.0=0.0609) 6% for CFC..!! Where by the (0.5/7.7=0.0649) 6.5% was achieved using the actual amount at the bottom, which is correct..!!

@nehra 10% variance on a prediction is acceptable.. ulizia ufunzwe sokwe


HIo si katazi..The prophet is only one..Mweshimiwa Obiero!! I was only assuring the people that the math you did the first time round was correct.

Actually the percentage of variance is being calculated by @pesanane.. I am not the one who is doing those percentages

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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MaichBlack
#617 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 4:26:34 PM
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Joined: 7/22/2009
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obiero wrote:
KCB 24.1 Actual PBT 23.8 (-1.2%)
EQTY 20.6
SCBK 15.8
BBK 12.8 Actual 12.3
COOP 12.7
CFC 8.2 Actual PBT 7.7 (-6.5%)
NBK 1.9 Actual PBT 1.3 (-46.2%)
HFCK 1.5

@Obiero - You might want to change your predictions on Equity (Upwards to be specific). The results will surprise you!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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innovator
#618 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 5:25:20 PM
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@obiero Do you have any forecast for insurance companies? Am expecting jubilee insurance to be super.
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Realtreaty
#619 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 5:57:29 PM
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obiero wrote:
NBK was meant to be 2.43 but structuring costs bit its butt.. Where is monomotapa

Obiero is now a millionaire after having sold his 19600 KCB shares at 60.
Run for NSE stock at 20 Kes now or are you courting Britam?
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obiero
#620 Posted : Sunday, March 08, 2015 6:28:59 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
KCB 24.1 Actual PBT 23.8 (-1.2%)
EQTY 20.6
SCBK 15.8
BBK 12.8 Actual 12.3
COOP 12.7
CFC 8.2 Actual PBT 7.7 (-6.5%)
NBK 1.9 Actual PBT 1.3 (-46.2%)
HFCK 1.5

@Obiero - You might want to change your predictions on Equity (Upwards to be specific). The results will surprise you!

@maichblack I get the info from sources. They have not advised me to adjust.. :)

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