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Co-operative Bank fate.. discuss
murchr
#141 Posted : Wednesday, March 04, 2015 9:47:41 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:
murchr wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Bonus, share split, Rights issue are ways to borrow money from investors and public. Not all those who get Bonuses rush to sell but intend to retain for a good dividend following year.
That is one reason some firms are low in Dividend but high in Bunuses. Example was Panafric which returned a loss but went ahead to give a bonus of 1 for every two. This is like a split or rights issue as immediately the price will fold into two ex-bonus and not many will sell but hold for another year or keep buying.
These are the monies firms want. Slaughtering cat with many tricks


Now which loss did PanAfrica make?

Reminds me of a discussion we had with some people back last year. They equated a "drop in profit" to a "loss" haya mambo mawili ni kizungu mkuti. It took a while to convince themsmile


Basic financial education should be mandatory in our schools.

On a number line a loss would not necessarily mean a negative sum, but a figure lower than projected outcome.
Make a numberline like you are in Primary 2(Two) and see for yourselves what a loss mean. A projection is a value expected and if not met after various expenses its called a loss. A profit is when you attain the projection or you go ahead of it.


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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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lochaz-index
#142 Posted : Wednesday, March 04, 2015 10:03:36 PM
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Joined: 9/18/2014
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Realtreaty wrote:
murchr wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Bonus, share split, Rights issue are ways to borrow money from investors and public. Not all those who get Bonuses rush to sell but intend to retain for a good dividend following year.
That is one reason some firms are low in Dividend but high in Bunuses. Example was Panafric which returned a loss but went ahead to give a bonus of 1 for every two. This is like a split or rights issue as immediately the price will fold into two ex-bonus and not many will sell but hold for another year or keep buying.
These are the monies firms want. Slaughtering cat with many tricks


Now which loss did PanAfrica make?

Reminds me of a discussion we had with some people back last year. They equated a "drop in profit" to a "loss" haya mambo mawili ni kizungu mkuti. It took a while to convince themsmile


Basic financial education should be mandatory in our schools.

On a number line a loss would not necessarily mean a negative sum, but a figure lower than projected outcome.
Make a numberline like you are in Primary 2(Two) and see for yourselves what a loss mean. A projection is a value expected and if not met after various expenses its called a loss. A profit is when you attain the projection or you go ahead of it.


Hehehe. Practical business education needed here asap.
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1masha
#143 Posted : Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:18:28 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:
murchr wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Bonus, share split, Rights issue are ways to borrow money from investors and public. Not all those who get Bonuses rush to sell but intend to retain for a good dividend following year.
That is one reason some firms are low in Dividend but high in Bunuses. Example was Panafric which returned a loss but went ahead to give a bonus of 1 for every two. This is like a split or rights issue as immediately the price will fold into two ex-bonus and not many will sell but hold for another year or keep buying.
These are the monies firms want. Slaughtering cat with many tricks


Now which loss did PanAfrica make?

Reminds me of a discussion we had with some people back last year. They equated a "drop in profit" to a "loss" haya mambo mawili ni kizungu mkuti. It took a while to convince themsmile


Basic financial education should be mandatory in our schools.

On a number line a loss would not necessarily mean a negative sum, but a figure lower than projected outcome.
Make a numberline like you are in Primary 2(Two) and see for yourselves what a loss mean. A projection is a value expected and if not met after various expenses its called a loss. A profit is when you attain the projection or you go ahead of it.

@Realtreaty, why are you complicating things. You have a number line alright. Now point to the revenue, then to total expenses. If total expenses are not more than the revenue then it's not a loss.
Good judgement is often the result of experience. Experience is often the result of bad judgement - Mark Twain.
Realtreaty
#144 Posted : Friday, March 06, 2015 6:57:53 PM
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Now that CO-OP Bank is playing hide and seek, I can tell a fortune is coming. Though it will say they have contributed alot to CSR and retrenchment we still gonna get a 75-100 cents. It is just hiding behind other banks espec Equity. Now KCB, BK, NIC, hve lready put their feet forward COOP and Equity will give us plenty from Saturday to wenesday.smile smile
Boris Boyka
#145 Posted : Saturday, March 07, 2015 10:54:11 PM
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Since 2010 you have never gone beyond 19Mar! Just last year you stretched to the 19th date. I pray for you to give birth to a healthy son before 19th. I know the labour pains Memba..Simba and the rest put you through...pole...Kuzaa ni kazi ; W = F x D.smile
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Siringi
#146 Posted : Sunday, March 08, 2015 2:51:09 AM
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smile as Kivuitu GBHS would say 'I don't know if they are cooking figures. ..
"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
Realtreaty
#147 Posted : Monday, March 09, 2015 5:04:28 PM
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The pot is boiling and the broth is sweeter. Wekeni masahani chonjo.
abkon2014
#148 Posted : Monday, March 09, 2015 6:51:44 PM
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I am seeing a dvd of 0.85 in the offing n a likely rally all the way to 27 before books close!
joejuma
#149 Posted : Monday, March 09, 2015 8:25:56 PM
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When are they announcing???
Realtreaty
#150 Posted : Monday, March 09, 2015 8:29:59 PM
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joejuma wrote:
When are they announcing???

Hehhehehheheeeeee Step Brothers...Co-op, Equity, Britam, CIC, HFCK will do their laundry together.
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