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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 1,063 Location: Kenya
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Swenani wrote:Othelo wrote:streetwise wrote:I do not understand if I buy anything and [b]resell[/b] it why is there an issue with the guy who sold it to me This is even worse. You buy stuff, then the seller controls you how to use it. You have time limit to use it, you cannot share, limits on quantities to buy, who to buy from etc .... Monopoly kweli. If you want to buy and sell bundles why don't you do it in a proper way? register yourself with safcom,pay rates etc Do you think its fair if you paid for electricity at KP and ended up supplying your whole village/neighbours with power just because you've paid for it? Why would you buy bundles for 1GB and fail to utilize them within the specified period? Why cant you buy a small bundle? N/B, I do not buy bundles, I have free internet in my house as well as in forward travellers! How did you get your neighbours Wi-Fi password? 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 1,063 Location: Kenya
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MaichBlack wrote:How much does it cost to unlock a Safaricom modem? Where? I want to move to Airtel ASAP - atleast for my laptops.
I could buy an Airtel modem but no need to have two Safcom modems lying around in the house. ...Get Zuku...For 3k per month plus some TV channels, which I don't need.... Seems to work fine for me. No bundles...  
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/4/2011 Posts: 115
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Atalaku wrote:MaichBlack wrote:How much does it cost to unlock a Safaricom modem? Where? I want to move to Airtel ASAP - atleast for my laptops.
I could buy an Airtel modem but no need to have two Safcom modems lying around in the house. ...Get Zuku...For 3k per month plus some TV channels, which I don't need.... Seems to work fine for me. No bundles... Tsehehehehe!! the warmer the blankets, the colder the future
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,236 Location: Vacuum
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,236 Location: Vacuum
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Atalaku wrote:Swenani wrote:Othelo wrote:streetwise wrote:I do not understand if I buy anything and [b]resell[/b] it why is there an issue with the guy who sold it to me This is even worse. You buy stuff, then the seller controls you how to use it. You have time limit to use it, you cannot share, limits on quantities to buy, who to buy from etc .... Monopoly kweli. If you want to buy and sell bundles why don't you do it in a proper way? register yourself with safcom,pay rates etc Do you think its fair if you paid for electricity at KP and ended up supplying your whole village/neighbours with power just because you've paid for it? Why would you buy bundles for 1GB and fail to utilize them within the specified period? Why cant you buy a small bundle? N/B, I do not buy bundles, I have free internet in my house as well as in forward travellers! How did you get your neighbours Wi-Fi password? Through the wife If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/8/2009 Posts: 975 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:Atalaku wrote:Swenani wrote:Othelo wrote:streetwise wrote:I do not understand if I buy anything and [b]resell[/b] it why is there an issue with the guy who sold it to me This is even worse. You buy stuff, then the seller controls you how to use it. You have time limit to use it, you cannot share, limits on quantities to buy, who to buy from etc .... Monopoly kweli. If you want to buy and sell bundles why don't you do it in a proper way? register yourself with safcom,pay rates etc Do you think its fair if you paid for electricity at KP and ended up supplying your whole village/neighbours with power just because you've paid for it? Why would you buy bundles for 1GB and fail to utilize them within the specified period? Why cant you buy a small bundle? N/B, I do not buy bundles, I have free internet in my house as well as in forward travellers! How did you get your neighbours Wi-Fi password? Through the wife @Swe you mean sexually transmitted? You will know that you have arrived when money and time are not mutually exclusive "events" in you life!
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Rank: Hello Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 9 Location: Nairobi
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If I can buy for the whole village what is the problem? That makes it easier for KPLC as they are not going to have lots of bills to send. There is not justification for what Safaricom is doing unless there is something else that we do not know and we should never know. If the dollar value goes to Zero, the gold value goes to infinity.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Rawsinvestor wrote:If I can buy for the whole village what is the problem? That makes it easier for KPLC as they are not going to have lots of bills to send.
There is not justification for what Safaricom is doing unless there is something else that we do not know and we should never know. But you can't buy for the whole village This is similar to those guys who subscribe DSTV and illegally distribute to his neighbours for money! This is similar to those Kibera fellows illegally distributing electricity... Many examples... This is not acceptable 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,452
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AlphDoti wrote:Rawsinvestor wrote:If I can buy for the whole village what is the problem? That makes it easier for KPLC as they are not going to have lots of bills to send.
There is not justification for what Safaricom is doing unless there is something else that we do not know and we should never know. But you can't buy for the whole village This is similar to those guys who subscribe DSTV and illegally distribute to his neighbours for money! This is similar to those Kibera fellows illegally distributing electricity... Many examples... This is not acceptable Wrong comparisons!!! Dstv re distributors pay for a single subscription and distribute it to multiple individuals losing the company revenue. Instead of 30 people paying 210,000/= 'they' pay 7,000/=. That's a HUGE problem for the company!! @Rawsinvestor will actually pay KPLC more if he allows the villagers to use power. Kibera fellows (and other informal settlements) are pure thugs!!! The don't pay for any of the electricity. They simply STEAL it by tapping into KPLC lines. Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,236 Location: Vacuum
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MaichBlack wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Rawsinvestor wrote:If I can buy for the whole village what is the problem? That makes it easier for KPLC as they are not going to have lots of bills to send.
There is not justification for what Safaricom is doing unless there is something else that we do not know and we should never know. But you can't buy for the whole village This is similar to those guys who subscribe DSTV and illegally distribute to his neighbours for money! This is similar to those Kibera fellows illegally distributing electricity... Many examples... This is not acceptable Wrong comparisons!!! Dstv re distributors pay for a single subscription and distribute it to multiple individuals losing the company revenue. Instead of 30 people paying 210,000/= 'they' pay 7,000/=. That's a HUGE problem for the company!! @Rawsinvestor will actually pay KPLC more if he allows the villagers to use power. Kibera fellows (and other informal settlements) are pure thugs!!! The don't pay for any of the electricity. They simply STEAL it by tapping into KPLC lines. KPLC will lose,If Rawsinvestor distributes to 100 villagers, KPLC will lose 14000 in fixed charges(I'm not sure whether the fixed charge is still 140 per bill) If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,452
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Swenani wrote:MaichBlack wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Rawsinvestor wrote:If I can buy for the whole village what is the problem? That makes it easier for KPLC as they are not going to have lots of bills to send.
There is not justification for what Safaricom is doing unless there is something else that we do not know and we should never know. But you can't buy for the whole village This is similar to those guys who subscribe DSTV and illegally distribute to his neighbours for money! This is similar to those Kibera fellows illegally distributing electricity... Many examples... This is not acceptable Wrong comparisons!!! Dstv re distributors pay for a single subscription and distribute it to multiple individuals losing the company revenue. Instead of 30 people paying 210,000/= 'they' pay 7,000/=. That's a HUGE problem for the company!! @Rawsinvestor will actually pay KPLC more if he allows the villagers to use power. Kibera fellows (and other informal settlements) are pure thugs!!! The don't pay for any of the electricity. They simply STEAL it by tapping into KPLC lines. KPLC will lose,If Rawsinvestor distributes to 100 villagers, KPLC will lose 14000 in fixed charges(I'm not sure whether the fixed charge is still 140 per bill) On the contrary1 They will actually make more money!!! If the villagers have their own meters/connections, they will each consume less than 50 units per month. Now down to the maths. The first 50 units are charged 2.50/= per kwh. 51 - 500 units 13.68/= per kwh Above 500 units 21.57/= per kwh For the sake of this calculation, lets assume @Rawsinvestor and each of the 100 villagers consumes 50 units per month (A fair approximation in the village) Scenario 1: @Rawsinvestor distributing the powerTotal usage: 101 * 50 units = 5,050 units. Bill:Fixed Charge = 140/= First 50 units = 2.50/= * 50 = 125/= 51 - 500 units = 13.68 * 450 = 6,156/= 501 - 5050 units = 21.57 * 4550 = 98,143.5/= Bill (consumption + Fixed Charge) = 140 + 125 + 6,156 + 98,143.5 = 104,564.5/=Scenario 2: Every villager with own connectionBill per villager:Fixed Charge: 140/= Consumption: 2.50/= * 50 = 125/= Total = 140 + 125 = 265/= Total for the 101 villagers = 265/= * 101 = 26,765/= Kenya Power will actually make 4 times more for the same power supplied if @Rawsinvestor distributes the power to his fellow villagers!Note:1) I have ignored taxes and fuel charge because they are ratios and would therefore not affect the comparison. 2) You don't have to work with 50 units. Choose any realistic value and Kenya Power still makes more from "distributed" power. If the villagers consume more than 50 units per home, they make more than 4 times because all the extra units will be pushed to the 21.57/= band. If they consume less than 50 units, Kenya Power still makes more from "distributed" but the ratio reduces the lower you go. Even if the villagers did their best and consumed 10 units each per month, Kenya Power still makes more! Try repeating the calculations with 10 units per home (which is ridiculously low) and see!!! Habari ndiyo hiyo. Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,452
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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@maich, I can see you're quite something! Surely your parents didn't waste their money educating you 
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,236 Location: Vacuum
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umekunywa faxe? but I get you point If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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Rawsinvestor wrote:If I can buy for the whole village what is the problem? That makes it easier for KPLC as they are not going to have lots of bills to send.
There is not justification for what Safaricom is doing unless there is something else that we do not know and we should never know. safcom realised that they are losing from the smaller customers who buy many 'small' bundles. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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MaichBlack wrote:Swenani wrote:MaichBlack wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Rawsinvestor wrote:If I can buy for the whole village what is the problem? That makes it easier for KPLC as they are not going to have lots of bills to send.
There is not justification for what Safaricom is doing unless there is something else that we do not know and we should never know. But you can't buy for the whole village This is similar to those guys who subscribe DSTV and illegally distribute to his neighbours for money! This is similar to those Kibera fellows illegally distributing electricity... Many examples... This is not acceptable Wrong comparisons!!! Dstv re distributors pay for a single subscription and distribute it to multiple individuals losing the company revenue. Instead of 30 people paying 210,000/= 'they' pay 7,000/=. That's a HUGE problem for the company!! @Rawsinvestor will actually pay KPLC more if he allows the villagers to use power. Kibera fellows (and other informal settlements) are pure thugs!!! The don't pay for any of the electricity. They simply STEAL it by tapping into KPLC lines. KPLC will lose,If Rawsinvestor distributes to 100 villagers, KPLC will lose 14000 in fixed charges(I'm not sure whether the fixed charge is still 140 per bill) On the contrary1 They will actually make more money!!! If the villagers have their own meters/connections, they will each consume less than 50 units per month. Now down to the maths. The first 50 units are charged 2.50/= per kwh. 51 - 500 units 13.68/= per kwh Above 500 units 21.57/= per kwh For the sake of this calculation, lets assume @Rawsinvestor and each of the 100 villagers consumes 50 units per month (A fair approximation in the village) Scenario 1: @Rawsinvestor distributing the powerTotal usage: 101 * 50 units = 5,050 units. Bill:Fixed Charge = 140/= First 50 units = 2.50/= * 50 = 125/= 51 - 500 units = 13.68 * 450 = 6,156/= 501 - 5050 units = 21.57 * 4550 = 98,143.5/= Bill (consumption + Fixed Charge) = 140 + 125 + 6,156 + 98,143.5 = 104,564.5/=Scenario 2: Every villager with own connectionBill per villager:Fixed Charge: 140/= Consumption: 2.50/= * 50 = 125/= Total = 140 + 125 = 265/= Total for the 101 villagers = 265/= * 101 = 26,765/= Kenya Power will actually make 4 times more for the same power supplied if @Rawsinvestor distributes the power to his fellow villagers!Note:1) I have ignored taxes and fuel charge because they are ratios and would therefore not affect the comparison. 2) You don't have to work with 50 units. Choose any realistic value and Kenya Power still makes more from "distributed" power. If the villagers consume more than 50 units per home, they make more than 4 times because all the extra units will be pushed to the 21.57/= band. If they consume less than 50 units, Kenya Power still makes more from "distributed" but the ratio reduces the lower you go. Even if the villagers did their best and consumed 10 units each per month, Kenya Power still makes more! Try repeating the calculations with 10 units per home (which is ridiculously low) and see!!! Habari ndiyo hiyo. looking looking at this; I can confidently say this guy is the guy is the one who goes round with the Kenya Power Honda disconnecting people whose bills are in arrears. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/2/2014 Posts: 123
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They know your habits and what you need. Kenyans will complain and after some time find means to adapt. if the bundles intake reduces they launch a mega promotion and even your wife/mum will consistently ask if you've subscribed so you can bring the mirrions home. ,
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 1,063 Location: Kenya
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http://www.businessdaily...6/-/ksd2wo/-/index.html
The Safaricom director for corporate affairs Nzioka Waita said in an interview the review was effected to address complaints from customers who wanted longer expiry period for their data bundles.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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While stupid Airtel expires in 30 days. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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Which was actually a wrong point, considering that with power, the more units you consume, the higher you pay per unit. With bundles, the more data you buy per bundle, the less you pay per unit. Now, hoping that you still feel mathematical today, can you work out the same scenario with large data bundles, and reselling? Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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