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State of Poverty in Kenya
Mukiri
#111 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:42:08 AM
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maka wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Alba wrote:
Government waste is a primary factor in creating poverty

For example, they are wasting KES 500,000,000 retirement home for the Kibaki built at Taxpayer expense. I do not know if the house has been gifted to him or it will be 'returned' to the Taxpayers in the future.

Kibaki awarded himself a Sh25 million send-off package as well as other retirement benefits. The Presidential Retirement Benefits Amendment Bill grants President Kibaki and his predecessor Daniel arap Moi a monthly pension, house allowance and a monthly entertainment allowance.
The president will also be paid pension at the rate of 80 percent of his final salary of Sh700,000 meaning he would earn Sh560,000 a month. In addition he will be paid 40 percent of the current salary as entertainment allowance which translates to some Sh280,000.




Instead of lavishing such gifts on two people who mismanaged the country, what if the govt instead invested heavily in infrastructure ?

Not only does that create direct jobs via construction, improved infrastructure makes it easier to do business which in turn creates jobs.

Also, some of that money can be used to inject capital into dying industries like textiles. Every government out there subsidizes its industries.


Sad ..or use that money to put up a hospital, university or even stadium and call it Kibz, in his honor.

I just had an epiphany! With dual citizenship, can we rally and have Obama become president here?


He is not from the right tribe he CANNOT be president here...

Shame on you I reckon he can.. Landslide!

Proverbs 19:21
Lolest!
#112 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 7:14:07 AM
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@mukiri, @maka, Barack doesn't qualify to be Kenyan President. Even if he takes up Kenyan citizenship.
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
sitaki.kujulikana
#113 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:12:10 AM
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murchr wrote:

As long as we're comfortable driving 2nd hand cars(which are no cheap by any nature), 2nd hand computers, 2nd hand clothes incl under garments then dont expect any improvements to the state of poverty. An assembly plant can create a multitude of jobs both directly and indirectly. The clothing industry too.

The clothing industry had a chance in the 80's, nothing happened. I remember the primary school I attended, most kids dint have shoes or jackets during the cold weather, our neighborhood had countable cars and in cases of emergency people had to walk long distances.
the cheaper second hand stuff has enable most peoples lives to improve, plus the second hand industry employs more people than an assembly plant would.
Magigi
#114 Posted : Monday, January 13, 2014 10:50:26 AM
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murchr
#115 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 5:44:17 AM
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Quote:
The government and WFP continue to aid 691,800 people in 13 affected counties

By Magdalene Mukami

NAIROBI

The Kenyan government on Monday warned that at least 1.6 million Kenyans were at risk of starvation due to prolonged drought in the East African country.

"The rains started late and ended early [this year]," Cabinet Secretary for Devolution and Planning Ann Waiguru told reporters.

"The amount of rainfall was less than normal and its distribution in space and time was generally poor," she added.

Waiguru said the areas that had experienced extremely poor rainfall this year were in the pastoral zones of the country's north and northeast and the marginal agricultural zones in the southeast.

In affected areas, she added, pasture and water had both been depleted, leading to the death of numerous animals in the region.

Pastoralists in Kenya live mainly on milk, blood and meat that they get from the livestock they raise.

Citing an assessment conducted between Jan. 26 and Feb. 6, Waiguru asserted that more than a million Kenyans were at risk of starvation.

"The assessment found that at least 1.63 million people were acutely food insecure and would require immediate assistance over the next six months," she added.

Waiguru said that, in order to address the situation, the government would disburse 279 million Kenyan shillings (roughly $3 million) from a drought contingency fund to 16 counties of Kenya for the implementation of contingency plans.

"Further disbursements will be made upon the request of affected counties," she added.

Waiguru said her government, together with the World Food Program, would continue to provide food and funding to over 691,800 beneficiaries in 13 affected counties.


More handouts.....is it cheaper to keep giving? How is this sustainable?

I know govt is not a for-profit enterprise, but wouldn't it be worthwhile to at least see the fruits that come out of these programs? You know just like the NYS program, what became of the other schemes?
http://www.capitalfm.co....s-facing-severe-famine/
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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kiash
#116 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 8:10:57 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
Kenya's MPs 2nd Highest paid(Per capita) in the world!

Over 75% of our income goes into recurrent expenditure

Somebody somewhere must be asking, 'Whats wrong with these monkeys?' We need to smoke what the Egyptians did... but while we cultivate it, the onus of improvement/development lies within ourselves as individuals



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly And who is to blame? Kenyans. They worship the ploticians so there will never be an Egypt. This will continue to be the case. Rich politicians will always use their ill gotten wealth to bribe the poor fellas just around the elections. Imagine what campaigns are there in countries in Europe? Campaigns of ideas and people elect their leaders according to their ideas. That is why the FN in France keeps on adding followers. People would rather vote for a guy in a prado than a probox.

By the way what happened to that young MP from Buuri? no longer hears anything about him and i thought he was a promising fella !!
Muriel
#117 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 10:19:11 AM
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kiash wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Kenya's MPs 2nd Highest paid(Per capita) in the world!

Over 75% of our income goes into recurrent expenditure

Somebody somewhere must be asking, 'Whats wrong with these monkeys?' We need to smoke what the Egyptians did... but while we cultivate it, the onus of improvement/development lies within ourselves as individuals



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly And who is to blame? Kenyans. They worship the ploticians so there will never be an Egypt. This will continue to be the case. Rich politicians will always use their ill gotten wealth to bribe the poor fellas just around the elections. Imagine what campaigns are there in countries in Europe? Campaigns of ideas and people elect their leaders according to their ideas. That is why the FN in France keeps on adding followers. People would rather vote for a guy in a prado than a probox.

By the way what happened to that young MP from Buuri? no longer hears anything about him and i thought he was a promising fella !!


Yes, the private developers.
tycho
#118 Posted : Tuesday, February 24, 2015 10:31:16 AM
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kiash wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Kenya's MPs 2nd Highest paid(Per capita) in the world!

Over 75% of our income goes into recurrent expenditure

Somebody somewhere must be asking, 'Whats wrong with these monkeys?' We need to smoke what the Egyptians did... but while we cultivate it, the onus of improvement/development lies within ourselves as individuals



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly And who is to blame? Kenyans. They worship the ploticians so there will never be an Egypt. This will continue to be the case. Rich politicians will always use their ill gotten wealth to bribe the poor fellas just around the elections. Imagine what campaigns are there in countries in Europe? Campaigns of ideas and people elect their leaders according to their ideas. That is why the FN in France keeps on adding followers. People would rather vote for a guy in a prado than a probox.

By the way what happened to that young MP from Buuri? no longer hears anything about him and i thought he was a promising fella !!


What's it about Egypt?
timbosho
#119 Posted : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 2:06:03 AM
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Joined: 8/23/2013
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kiash wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Kenya's MPs 2nd Highest paid(Per capita) in the world!

Over 75% of our income goes into recurrent expenditure

Somebody somewhere must be asking, 'Whats wrong with these monkeys?' We need to smoke what the Egyptians did... but while we cultivate it, the onus of improvement/development lies within ourselves as individuals



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly And who is to blame? Kenyans. They worship the ploticians so there will never be an Egypt. This will continue to be the case. Rich politicians will always use their ill gotten wealth to bribe the poor fellas just around the elections. Imagine what campaigns are there in countries in Europe? Campaigns of ideas and people elect their leaders according to their ideas. That is why the FN in France keeps on adding followers. People would rather vote for a guy in a prado than a probox.

By the way what happened to that young MP from Buuri? no longer hears anything about him and i thought he was a promising fella !!


Saa zingine ukipata time na unakaa chini, kafombe kameanza kuingia kichwa,story zimeisha, unajipata ukijiuliza enyewe what is wrong with us, not just Kenyans but Africans in general. All over Africa, the same game is taking place, has been taking place for centuries. In the times of our forefathers, our leaders gave away their land,ivory, gold and jewels, their brothers and sisters for glass beads, whisky and bad guns. They did not work for unity amongst Africans to fight the colonialists, they preferred to be chiefs/kings of a small group of people than a raia in a larger united group. When we took over after colonialism we did not learn from our history but continued along the same lines, replacing the white exploiter with the black exploiter, maintaining divisions among people instead of building nations, not investing adequately in ourselves, and now here we are, wondering why poverty, hunger and disease are still hunting us down.
I do not know if its innate or its structural, but we have largely maintained the same land tenure, political, economic structures we were left with by the colonialists, without asking ourselves if they are fit for us. Agriculture, for example, has been the foundation on which wealth and industries are built for many countries in the world. Without fair land distribution, investment in rural infrastructure linking farms to markets, extension services and farm inputs, poverty and hunger will continue to stalk us. Very few countries have developed without fixing their agricultural sectors, so why do African countries think they will be the exception?
murchr
#120 Posted : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 3:16:56 AM
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I watched the Agri Cabinet secretary giving excuses on why the Galana irrigation project has failed and I just couldn't believe it. Blaming it on infrastructure yet it was clear that the road was in bad shape even b4 the project was launched. How i wish we had a fierce 3rd estate, some of these Cabinet secretaries need to be asked really hard questions.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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