@ wanyee,nimeona ukichungulia.Kaburoti kakitajwa ndio unatkelezea?Urioho mundu?

I will be a bit blunt here now but it is this idiocy exhibited by @Rahatupu to call historical injustice a fallacy that is at the heart of many land problems. It is in the interests of those who own land, any land even the small plots of lands to have a compassionate interest in the resolution of the land question. To understand that the platform on which your rights to own land and property stands also supports the rights of other people from being disenfranchised and dispossessed.

As it is the only people who agitate for land reforms are those who have been dispossessed and the only solution they seem to offer is the one described by @jagger above. The land owners on the other hand @Rahatupu and co think that there is no problem to be resolved and the landless squatters should go hang.

My argument is that those who own land should have a greater interest in the matter than that shown by Rahatupu. They should be at the forefront in advocating for resolutions in the form of re settlements or compensation for the squatters. I don't claim to know what the correct way to handle the matter is but engagement is important. Waitiki has a greater responsibility than to sit with his title like a victim and demand 10 billion shillings for his land. He should be more engaged than that.

I am sure Rahatupu would have some respect for a man like John Kibunga Kimani. Here is a man who has worked and saved to become a billionaire but still understands that you cannot wish away the problem of squatters.

Its a pity we've mixed up issues, but anyway, Waitiki needs to get money for his land so he can go and invest elsewhere. He didn't steal the land, he bought it.

These stories of claiming ancestral land after you sell it are BS.

I do not think the Waiyaki and Gachie(Kihara) families owned all that land. There were other Kikuyu/Dorobo families owning land in Northern Nairobi.

Forest rd-Parklands was forested and owned by some Dorobo families who were dispossessed of their land by the British and were later assimilated by the Kiambu Kikuyu

But nice point. How would it be if we all wanted people to go back to where they were before 1900? Or be compensated for all that belonged to their forefathers?

For someone who struggled to buy the land, the guy should be compensated. The old Land Acquisition Act laid out the rules through which govt can acquire land and the compensation to be given based on current valuation with an adjustment for disturbance and even has a process of appeals through the tribunal.

I don't know if it was replaced by the new land act after the constitution was passed.

let the govt acquire the land and compensate the current legal owner. Then they can give the squatters. Not because they are poor guys but because this is very much a political issue.