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Installed Grid Capacity Politrics!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lolest!
#21 Posted : Friday, February 20, 2015 2:46:05 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
Impunity wrote:
timizo wrote:
Even worse is that the jubilee government continue to lie to kenyans that the geothermal was their project and take credit for that. Of course all the planning including the starting of construction was done under the Kibaki administration. On another note, because we have not travelled and seen how others are doing, we tend to think we are the best in africa. May be for the same reason, we have very low expectations from our leaders


You are WRONG also.
This was done during the nusu mkate gaament involving @RAO and @Kibaki as principals!
Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


The change to geothermal was planned 15 years ago during Moi's time. During la nina in the year 1999-2000 the dams ran dry and an energy restructuring process was planned to stop reliance on hydro. The whole thing is the work of technocrats including negotiating the loans

I thought the 99-2000 power deficit was caused by intentional acts by energy sector corporation bosses in order to force us to use diesel generated power

what happened to the extradition case involving Gichuru and Okemo
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#22 Posted : Friday, February 20, 2015 2:52:39 PM
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Ndemo has always been pro big projects and obviously has no understanding of macro economics. The Konza city project is the worst example of misplaced priorities.

I will listen to Ndii over Ndemo anyday.
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Impunity
#23 Posted : Friday, February 20, 2015 2:58:35 PM
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washiku wrote:
timizo wrote:
Even worse is that the jubilee government continue to lie to kenyans that the geothermal was their project and take credit for that. Of course all the planning including the starting of construction was done under the Kibaki administration. On another note, because we have not travelled and seen how others are doing, we tend to think we are the best in africa. May be for the same reason, we have very low expectations from our leaders


Really? By even though, at the end of the day, does it really matter who completes it. The focus should be on the net effect to the Kenyans. Regardless of who is in power, Kenyans' needs remains constant. Affordable energy is one of them. If you remember when Vision 2030 was being launched, there was a deliberate effort to institutionalize the policies so that whichever govt comes into power they will continue investing in those sectors. In fact, the danger would have been Uhuruto coming into power and abandoning the Geothermal projects simply because they were a Kibaki project. The constitution only gives a limited time when one can be in power, thus continuity in govt projects should be a plus rather than an "Even worse" thing.


Uhuruto should not take credit as the ones who initiated the mega projects including SGR, but should lay claim, utmost, as the ones who saw some of them to successful completion.
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Impunity
#24 Posted : Friday, February 20, 2015 3:02:02 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
Impunity wrote:
timizo wrote:
Even worse is that the jubilee government continue to lie to kenyans that the geothermal was their project and take credit for that. Of course all the planning including the starting of construction was done under the Kibaki administration. On another note, because we have not travelled and seen how others are doing, we tend to think we are the best in africa. May be for the same reason, we have very low expectations from our leaders


You are WRONG also.
This was done during the nusu mkate gaament involving @RAO and @Kibaki as principals!
Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


The change to geothermal was planned 15 years ago during Moi's time. During la nina in the year 1999-2000 the dams ran dry and an energy restructuring process was planned to stop reliance on hydro. The whole thing is the work of technocrats including negotiating the loans

I thought the 99-2000 power deficit was caused by intentional acts by energy sector corporation bosses in order to force us to use diesel generated power

what happened to the extradition case involving Gichuru and Okemo


THIS IS KENYA!


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washiku
#25 Posted : Friday, February 20, 2015 3:26:10 PM
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Impunity wrote:
mawinder wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
omhangla wrote:
Impunity wrote:
timizo wrote:
Even worse is that the jubilee government continue to lie to kenyans that the geothermal was their project and take credit for that. Of course all the planning including the starting of construction was done under the Kibaki administration. On another note, because we have not travelled and seen how others are doing, we tend to think we are the best in africa. May be for the same reason, we have very low expectations from our leaders


You are WRONG also.
This was done during the nusu mkate gaament involving @RAO and @Kibaki as principals!
Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
anything good was done by kibaki govt. but anything bad was because of nusu mkate govt. that is how some people reason

yeah. and;
the converse is how the other people reason

I didnt expect wazuans to be tribalists, so sad!!!!!!!!!!!!




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mawinder
#26 Posted : Friday, February 20, 2015 3:44:04 PM
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washiku wrote:
Impunity wrote:
mawinder wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
omhangla wrote:
Impunity wrote:
timizo wrote:
Even worse is that the jubilee government continue to lie to kenyans that the geothermal was their project and take credit for that. Of course all the planning including the starting of construction was done under the Kibaki administration. On another note, because we have not travelled and seen how others are doing, we tend to think we are the best in africa. May be for the same reason, we have very low expectations from our leaders


You are WRONG also.
This was done during the nusu mkate gaament involving @RAO and @Kibaki as principals!
Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
anything good was done by kibaki govt. but anything bad was because of nusu mkate govt. that is how some people reason

yeah. and;
the converse is how the other people reason

I didnt expect wazuans to be tribalists, so sad!!!!!!!!!!!!




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I dont understand this!!!!!!
kiterunner
#27 Posted : Friday, February 20, 2015 5:28:53 PM
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Impunity wrote:
mawinder wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
omhangla wrote:
Impunity wrote:
timizo wrote:
Even worse is that the jubilee government continue to lie to kenyans that the geothermal was their project and take credit for that. Of course all the planning including the starting of construction was done under the Kibaki administration. On another note, because we have not travelled and seen how others are doing, we tend to think we are the best in africa. May be for the same reason, we have very low expectations from our leaders


You are WRONG also.
This was done during the nusu mkate gaament involving @RAO and @Kibaki as principals!
Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
anything good was done by kibaki govt. but anything bad was because of nusu mkate govt. that is how some people reason

yeah. and;
the converse is how the other people reason

I didnt expect wazuans to be tribalists, so sad!!!!!!!!!!!!


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on point
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kiterunner
#28 Posted : Friday, February 20, 2015 5:30:58 PM
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limanika wrote:
@imp, Argentina experiences winter, and peak demand for household/user determines the load and ultimately the required generation capacity. @ Maji the % was 15% last time I checked, but even then, whereas over 50% in Argentina require electricity to heat their houses mainly, over 50% in kenya just need electricity for lighting at night, something we could do with solar. I don't think we need 5000mw right now unless for export



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kiterunner
#29 Posted : Friday, February 20, 2015 5:32:29 PM
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limanika wrote:
@imp, Argentina experiences winter, and peak demand for household/user determines the load and ultimately the required generation capacity. @ Maji the % was 15% last time I checked, but even then, whereas over 50% in Argentina require electricity to heat their houses mainly, over 50% in kenya just need electricity for lighting at night, something we could do with solar. I don't think we need 5000mw right now unless for export



Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

urongo mbloo, load shedding saa yote, diesel generators, we need power!!!!

if 15% kenyans have access to power today with 1900MW, how much will it take to have 100% coverage?

you still think 5000mw is excess? come on
our goals are best achieved indirectly
Impunity
#30 Posted : Friday, February 20, 2015 5:33:58 PM
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mawinder wrote:
washiku wrote:
Impunity wrote:
mawinder wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
omhangla wrote:
Impunity wrote:
timizo wrote:
Even worse is that the jubilee government continue to lie to kenyans that the geothermal was their project and take credit for that. Of course all the planning including the starting of construction was done under the Kibaki administration. On another note, because we have not travelled and seen how others are doing, we tend to think we are the best in africa. May be for the same reason, we have very low expectations from our leaders


You are WRONG also.
This was done during the nusu mkate gaament involving @RAO and @Kibaki as principals!
Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
anything good was done by kibaki govt. but anything bad was because of nusu mkate govt. that is how some people reason

yeah. and;
the converse is how the other people reason

I didnt expect wazuans to be tribalists, so sad!!!!!!!!!!!!




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I dont understand this!!!!!!


Wacha tucheke kwanze.

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Ever heardof the saying "...the pot calling the kettle black..."?
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