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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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Lolest! wrote:omhangla wrote:Impunity wrote:timizo wrote:Even worse is that the jubilee government continue to lie to kenyans that the geothermal was their project and take credit for that. Of course all the planning including the starting of construction was done under the Kibaki administration. On another note, because we have not travelled and seen how others are doing, we tend to think we are the best in africa. May be for the same reason, we have very low expectations from our leaders You are WRONG also. This was done during the nusu mkate gaament involving @RAO and @Kibaki as principals!  anything good was done by kibaki govt. but anything bad was because of nusu mkate govt. that is how some people reason yeah. and; the converse is how the other people reason I didnt expect wazuans to be tribalists, so sad!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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Robinhood wrote:I saw we just commissioned another 140MW yesterday. Is this part of the 140 x 2 that was launched just before Christmas or another 140MW?
Someone is playing tricks somewhere or just repeating themselves This is part of the 280 MW. We have been enjoying the power since Q4 2014. They need to feed it into the grid for some time before doing the official opening. I think the error here has to be the media, they never get anything right. 5,000 MW by 2017 is a pipe dream, I don't think we will commission any other plant before 2017, so the Jubilee gava will take Kibaki/rao but this will only see them achieve less than 10% of their 2017 KPI's for the power sector. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/10/2010 Posts: 1,001 Location: River Road
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Impunity wrote:timizo wrote:Even worse is that the jubilee government continue to lie to kenyans that the geothermal was their project and take credit for that. Of course all the planning including the starting of construction was done under the Kibaki administration. On another note, because we have not travelled and seen how others are doing, we tend to think we are the best in africa. May be for the same reason, we have very low expectations from our leaders You are WRONG also. This was done during the nusu mkate gaament involving @RAO and @Kibaki as principals! The change to geothermal was planned 15 years ago during Moi's time. During la nina in the year 1999-2000 the dams ran dry and an energy restructuring process was planned to stop reliance on hydro. The whole thing is the work of technocrats including negotiating the loans
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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mawinder wrote:Lolest! wrote:omhangla wrote:Impunity wrote:timizo wrote:Even worse is that the jubilee government continue to lie to kenyans that the geothermal was their project and take credit for that. Of course all the planning including the starting of construction was done under the Kibaki administration. On another note, because we have not travelled and seen how others are doing, we tend to think we are the best in africa. May be for the same reason, we have very low expectations from our leaders You are WRONG also. This was done during the nusu mkate gaament involving @RAO and @Kibaki as principals! anything good was done by kibaki govt. but anything bad was because of nusu mkate govt. that is how some people reason yeah. and; the converse is how the other people reason I didnt expect wazuans to be tribalists, so sad!!!!!!!!!!!!   Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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Impunity wrote:Is it true now that geothermal power sources in Kenya has surpassed the Hydro Electric sources?
who has these figures?
They say our installed capacity is now 1,900 MW.
What is the %age contribution per each?
Geothermal = ?
HEP = ?
Thermal/Fossil = ?
wind = ?
Solar
Others = ?
Meanwhile Argentina with the same population has installed capacity of 24,000 MW and a population of 40 million just like us. Whenever I see comparison of generation capacity btwn countries (to put us in our place), I always wonder if they have considered the differences in weather/climate. In some of these places you heat entire house 24x7, whereas this is not necessary in Kenya
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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limanika wrote:Impunity wrote:Is it true now that geothermal power sources in Kenya has surpassed the Hydro Electric sources?
who has these figures?
They say our installed capacity is now 1,900 MW.
What is the %age contribution per each?
Geothermal = ?
HEP = ?
Thermal/Fossil = ?
wind = ?
Solar
Others = ?
Meanwhile Argentina with the same population has installed capacity of 24,000 MW and a population of 40 million just like us. Whenever I see comparison of generation capacity btwn countries (to put us in our place), I always wonder if they have considered the differences in weather/climate. In some of these places you heat entire house 24x7, whereas this is not necessary in Kenya Bas compare apple with apple, Kenya and Argentina. The weather daent vary so much. Still you cant make up for 1,900 MW vs 24,000 MW! Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
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limanika wrote:Impunity wrote:Is it true now that geothermal power sources in Kenya has surpassed the Hydro Electric sources?
who has these figures?
They say our installed capacity is now 1,900 MW.
What is the %age contribution per each?
Geothermal = ?
HEP = ?
Thermal/Fossil = ?
wind = ?
Solar
Others = ?
Meanwhile Argentina with the same population has installed capacity of 24,000 MW and a population of 40 million just like us. Whenever I see comparison of generation capacity btwn countries (to put us in our place), I always wonder if they have considered the differences in weather/climate. In some of these places you heat entire house 24x7, whereas this is not necessary in Kenya Only 10% Kenyans have power connections. That's why. Forget climate and weather.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Impunity wrote:limanika wrote:Impunity wrote:Is it true now that geothermal power sources in Kenya has surpassed the Hydro Electric sources?
who has these figures?
They say our installed capacity is now 1,900 MW.
What is the %age contribution per each?
Geothermal = ?
HEP = ?
Thermal/Fossil = ?
wind = ?
Solar
Others = ?
Meanwhile Argentina with the same population has installed capacity of 24,000 MW and a population of 40 million just like us. Whenever I see comparison of generation capacity btwn countries (to put us in our place), I always wonder if they have considered the differences in weather/climate. In some of these places you heat entire house 24x7, whereas this is not necessary in Kenya Bas compare apple with apple, Kenya and Argentina. The weather daent vary so much. Still you cant make up for 1,900 MW vs 24,000 MW! I thought some people argued 5000MW will be tooooo mash for our economy and some Wazuans agreed? Anyway... http://www.businessdaily...2/-/7nuhr2/-/index.html
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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@imp, Argentina experiences winter, and peak demand for household/user determines the load and ultimately the required generation capacity. @ Maji the % was 15% last time I checked, but even then, whereas over 50% in Argentina require electricity to heat their houses mainly, over 50% in kenya just need electricity for lighting at night, something we could do with solar. I don't think we need 5000mw right now unless for export
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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timizo wrote:Even worse is that the jubilee government continue to lie to kenyans that the geothermal was their project and take credit for that. Of course all the planning including the starting of construction was done under the Kibaki administration. On another note, because we have not travelled and seen how others are doing, we tend to think we are the best in africa. May be for the same reason, we have very low expectations from our leaders Really? By even though, at the end of the day, does it really matter who completes it. The focus should be on the net effect to the Kenyans. Regardless of who is in power, Kenyans' needs remains constant. Affordable energy is one of them. If you remember when Vision 2030 was being launched, there was a deliberate effort to institutionalize the policies so that whichever govt comes into power they will continue investing in those sectors. In fact, the danger would have been Uhuruto coming into power and abandoning the Geothermal projects simply because they were a Kibaki project. The constitution only gives a limited time when one can be in power, thus continuity in govt projects should be a plus rather than an "Even worse" thing.
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